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Replying To Blueblood4life: "When a senior intercounty manager brings in young players he has massive influence on them, what 18-19 year old is capable of standing up for themselves and demanding they play with the players and team they may have been with since development squads? So to answer question Banty is not allowing them. If they play a senior intercounty game they can not tog out for u20s the same year, this is what happened Aaron Mulligan last year.
Blooding young players can and should be achieved when the players are ready both technically and physically, not just so the manager can say he's doing x, y & z. Aaron Mulligan was (and is) a massive talent, he was rushed through without playing u20 football last year and this year can't get a game, there's a reason why we have age grades, to allow the players develop and avoid injuries or walk aways.
He's now in a position where he's played little to no football for two years.
Jones, due to injury, little to no football for two years.
Gallagher, due to injury, little to no football for two years.
Is this how we develop senior intercounty footballers?
As for your comment on other county's injuries, I don't care, I'm interested in Monaghan and how we run our squads. In the past 2 years the squad has been flattened with a high injury rate last seen…… in bantys last term under McElehenens time. This is arguably a worse period.
Dermot Malone forced into retirement due to a knee injury sustained in the gym, how many more before the issue is addressed?
Your comment, like some of your previous posts stink of propaganda, you preach positivity, more like head in the sand stuff. There is massive issues at multiple levels in Monaghan gaa, if they aren't spoken about, called out or acted on then the impact will be seen for years to come. Like it or not, this stems from or Co.Senior management. They need to be the best representation of everything that is Monaghan football, the man at the helm can't stay out of the papers for two weeks, is that who we want in charge of our young men?" Your comment, like some of your previous posts stink or hatred or is it jealousy? Every post you make is to damage bantys image which is becoming sad at this point. ( At the same time I can't tell u what and what not to post so you be you, the individual your destined to be). The 18/19 year old is capable of standing up for himself by saying no seamus i dont want to be a part of the senior set up, I want to play with the u20s this year. Just like jason irwin did last year. What player is going to want to train with a senior team for 8 months 4/5nigts a week, just to only play for u20s? So to answer the question, the players make their own decision.
Regarding Mulligan do you believe the S&C he would be doing with the U20s would be more beneficial than the S&C he went through with the senior team? If he felt he was being rushed he could have taken a step back and played with the 20s but it's seem to me going by his appearances last year he choose to play senior ball. I wouldn't say him missing out on u20s ball is the reason he can't get playing with the seniors.
In the past 2 years, mgst time to prepare the squad for games was shortened due to covid. Even though monaghan were caught training, time was still shortened resulting in more injuries just like every othet county. Although you dont care about other counties have a look at our underage teams. 2 key players for the U20s along with 2 of the panel were injured (weren't training under banty), 4-5 players for the minors few weeks back were all out injured (weren't training under banty). Injuries happen, the game is becoming more demanding on the body, injuries are going to happen.
I believe the man we should want in charge is the man who the players want, not an individual who comes onto a gaa forum just to drag a person name through the dirt but again I can't tell u what and what not to post. Maybe someday, one can hope that you post without mentioning banty.
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Replying To Blueblood4life: "When a senior intercounty manager brings in young players he has massive influence on them, what 18-19 year old is capable of standing up for themselves and demanding they play with the players and team they may have been with since development squads? So to answer question Banty is not allowing them. If they play a senior intercounty game they can not tog out for u20s the same year, this is what happened Aaron Mulligan last year.
Blooding young players can and should be achieved when the players are ready both technically and physically, not just so the manager can say he's doing x, y & z. Aaron Mulligan was (and is) a massive talent, he was rushed through without playing u20 football last year and this year can't get a game, there's a reason why we have age grades, to allow the players develop and avoid injuries or walk aways.
He's now in a position where he's played little to no football for two years.
Jones, due to injury, little to no football for two years.
Gallagher, due to injury, little to no football for two years.
Is this how we develop senior intercounty footballers?
As for your comment on other county's injuries, I don't care, I'm interested in Monaghan and how we run our squads. In the past 2 years the squad has been flattened with a high injury rate last seen…… in bantys last term under McElehenens time. This is arguably a worse period.
Dermot Malone forced into retirement due to a knee injury sustained in the gym, how many more before the issue is addressed?
Your comment, like some of your previous posts stink of propaganda, you preach positivity, more like head in the sand stuff. There is massive issues at multiple levels in Monaghan gaa, if they aren't spoken about, called out or acted on then the impact will be seen for years to come. Like it or not, this stems from or Co.Senior management. They need to be the best representation of everything that is Monaghan football, the man at the helm can't stay out of the papers for two weeks, is that who we want in charge of our young men?" Believe me, I am not a supporter of Banty, but I am a supporter of the Monaghan Team and their Management. I can keep the two separate. I respect the other posters like muckla, Eddie, Shelbourne and Stoney here who have a go at Banty because they are balanced and put alternative views. They can say well done when Monaghan win. And the Monaghan primary colour is White..not Blue, unless the blue is from Doohamlet or Scotstown.
Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 801 - 05/04/2022 10:45:31
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Replying To patmouse: "So let's get this right once and for all.
If we win, it's down to the others in the management team and everything is brilliant
If we lose, it's McEnaney is useless
If some one gets injured it's McEnaney is useless
Pity, we hadn't the old formula, we could set up 2 threads.
is there anyway we can blame him for the state of my beloved Man U are in, or is this going too far." I think u should blame him the monaghan player out there again last weekend ***** it blame him anyways
Lad79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 53 - 05/04/2022 11:23:40
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Replying To patmouse: "So let's get this right once and for all.
If we win, it's down to the others in the management team and everything is brilliant
If we lose, it's McEnaney is useless
If some one gets injured it's McEnaney is useless
Pity, we hadn't the old formula, we could set up 2 threads.
is there anyway we can blame him for the state of my beloved Man U are in, or is this going too far." You obviously aren't aware of what the real reason was that McEntee suddenly dropped out of the race to become manager which meant Banty had a clear run into the hotseat unopposed…
mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 05/04/2022 13:27:57
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Replying To MonaghanBoi: "Your comment, like some of your previous posts stink or hatred or is it jealousy? Every post you make is to damage bantys image which is becoming sad at this point. ( At the same time I can't tell u what and what not to post so you be you, the individual your destined to be). The 18/19 year old is capable of standing up for himself by saying no seamus i dont want to be a part of the senior set up, I want to play with the u20s this year. Just like jason irwin did last year. What player is going to want to train with a senior team for 8 months 4/5nigts a week, just to only play for u20s? So to answer the question, the players make their own decision.
Regarding Mulligan do you believe the S&C he would be doing with the U20s would be more beneficial than the S&C he went through with the senior team? If he felt he was being rushed he could have taken a step back and played with the 20s but it's seem to me going by his appearances last year he choose to play senior ball. I wouldn't say him missing out on u20s ball is the reason he can't get playing with the seniors.
In the past 2 years, mgst time to prepare the squad for games was shortened due to covid. Even though monaghan were caught training, time was still shortened resulting in more injuries just like every othet county. Although you dont care about other counties have a look at our underage teams. 2 key players for the U20s along with 2 of the panel were injured (weren't training under banty), 4-5 players for the minors few weeks back were all out injured (weren't training under banty). Injuries happen, the game is becoming more demanding on the body, injuries are going to happen.
I believe the man we should want in charge is the man who the players want, not an individual who comes onto a gaa forum just to drag a person name through the dirt but again I can't tell u what and what not to post. Maybe someday, one can hope that you post without mentioning banty." What a load of nonsense. Much of it make believe.
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Its great to see all the new posters who appeared in the last three years, putin wouldn't have a look in with some of the propaganda.
shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 05/04/2022 18:30:52
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Replying To mick2007: "You obviously aren't aware of what the real reason was that McEntee suddenly dropped out of the race to become manager which meant Banty had a clear run into the hotseat unopposed…" Ya think???
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 05/04/2022 21:11:40
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Replying To shaggylegend: "Its great to see all the new posters who appeared in the last three years, putin wouldn't have a look in with some of the propaganda." Want to elaborate?
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Replying To Shelbourne1: "Under 20s weren't going to achieve this year. Mark Counihan & his staff who brought these players at minor level to Ulster titles wanted to stay with them & manage under 30s thus year. But Banty stepped in & insisted his man McCague had to be appointed instead. This is common knowledge throughout the county & yet another example of Banty making a 'hames' of Monaghan football.
Remember it was Banty & his man McCague who, just a few years ago, suffered another humiliating defeat to another poor Cavan side at this level.
How long can this go on for ?
Meanwhile Counihan & his coaches thankfully are still doing a great job this year with our minors even though they could have walked away in disgust.
Every year they prove themselves.
Banty is ruining Monaghan football at ALL LEVELS !" another one to add to the list, this is another pure gem
When we win it because of the others in the management team
When we lose it's Banty's fault
EVEN When another Monaghan team loses it's Banty fault
is there anything else we can blame him for, I am proposing to blame him for inflation, state of Man U, the weather etc
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Replying To patmouse: "another one to add to the list, this is another pure gem
When we win it because of the others in the management team
When we lose it's Banty's fault
EVEN When another Monaghan team loses it's Banty fault
is there anything else we can blame him for, I am proposing to blame him for inflation, state of Man U, the weather etc" I am proposing to blame him for the inflation, Man U, the weather etc
Will we start with inflation fella????
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 06/04/2022 14:33:35
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Replying To mhunicean_abu: "I am proposing to blame him for the inflation, Man U, the weather etc
Will we start with inflation fella????" Banty for President !
RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 848 - 06/04/2022 15:09:26
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Replying To RHF: "Banty for President !" Sure we have mickey for president??
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Replying To mhunicean_abu: "I am proposing to blame him for the inflation, Man U, the weather etc
Will we start with inflation fella????" In simple terms when something looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck
stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 213 - 06/04/2022 18:27:02
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Replying To stoneygrey: "In simple terms when something looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck" Aye its gone very quiet up the front
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 07/04/2022 11:10:00
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Good listen to a Darren Hughes interview on bbc sports podcast. Div 1 one survival vital to the players otherwise could drop like a stone like 2012. Appears to have a lot of time for Malachy and Banty in equal measure. Revealing insight into tyrone games and view of tyrone from monaghan team undoubted jealously but serious respect and admiration also. Always felt monaghan respected tyrone a bit too much over the years in big games due to their reputation esp when tyrone were in transition 13 and 15 definitely.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 09/04/2022 07:45:31
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Replying To seanie08: "Good listen to a Darren Hughes interview on bbc sports podcast. Div 1 one survival vital to the players otherwise could drop like a stone like 2012. Appears to have a lot of time for Malachy and Banty in equal measure. Revealing insight into tyrone games and view of tyrone from monaghan team undoubted jealously but serious respect and admiration also. Always felt monaghan respected tyrone a bit too much over the years in big games due to their reputation esp when tyrone were in transition 13 and 15 definitely." Enjoyed the interview. A huge problem for monaghan was the big players showing up on those days, 2018 was a guilt edge chance lost. May not have won it but to reach your second final in history would have been a huge boost for the county, very hard to see a chance like this creep up again.
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Replying To 222: "Enjoyed the interview. A huge problem for monaghan was the big players showing up on those days, 2018 was a guilt edge chance lost. May not have won it but to reach your second final in history would have been a huge boost for the county, very hard to see a chance like this creep up again." I can see it happening this year. A much more open championship. New players integrated into the squad more so than previous years. A team who have got worthwhile game time throughout the league. We'll be there or thereabouts.
SoNearYetSoFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 50 - 12/04/2022 09:29:42
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Replying To SoNearYetSoFarney: "I can see it happening this year. A much more open championship. New players integrated into the squad more so than previous years. A team who have got worthwhile game time throughout the league. We'll be there or thereabouts." You can see us making a All Ireland semi final??
Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 12/04/2022 15:20:46
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Replying To Blueblood4life: "You can see us making a All Ireland semi final??" Yes. I think we're more than capable of beating anyone in Ulster this year - no Ulster team beat us in the league this year, for example. Arguably the two drawn games should have been wins too. We've a nice mix of youth and experience. And a strong bench for the first time in years. So it's plausible that we win an Ulster Championship and get to on All Ireland semi-final.
SoNearYetSoFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 50 - 12/04/2022 20:59:00
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Replying To SoNearYetSoFarney: "Yes. I think we're more than capable of beating anyone in Ulster this year - no Ulster team beat us in the league this year, for example. Arguably the two drawn games should have been wins too. We've a nice mix of youth and experience. And a strong bench for the first time in years. So it's plausible that we win an Ulster Championship and get to on All Ireland semi-final." Yes I agree, no reason we cant win an ulster championship, anyone who thinks otherwise is joking. We are a division 1 team and I believe this team fully has their eyes on the big prize and why shopulsnt they. At the end of the day we got the nitty gritty draws in omagh and armagh, whilst kildare didn't and we will get them wins and draws in the champioship too, and that is the difference in having credentials for a long summer and not.
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 13/04/2022 11:09:43
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