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Good weekend largely for Westmeath clubs with Multy and The Downs progressing to penultimate stages in Leinster. Disappointing defeat for Shandonagh to a Kilkenny side, even more so considering Shandonagh would have had home advantage in both semi and final. Multy played well in patches but definitely need improvement if they're to repeat wins of 2018. Forwards were particularly poor with only Shane Williams impressing, he was outstanding and David Wallace improved things when introduced. Two McGivneys were good as was the keeper, Sweeney, who is worth looking at by Des Dolan. He made a couple of outstanding saves and his kickouts were very good. He's a fine young prospect. The Downs very comfortable winners in Cusack, easily could have won by 10-12, Conor Coughlan, Charlie Drumm, Luke Loughlin, Kevin O' Sullivan, Niall Mitchell and Andrew Kilmartin especially impressive. Louth championship must be average at best as the Ardee side were inferior all over the field. Ratoath next for The Downs, think in Croke Park.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 06/11/2022 15:58:51    2446635

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A bit off topic but is there a list anywhere of who won minor Div 1 and premier championship.
I know premier wasn't always a thing.

I know roughly the last 10 years
2022 Tubberclare
2021 Moate
2020 Killucan
2019 The Downs
2018 The Downs
2017 Athlone
16 Shandonagh
15 The Downs ??
14 The Downs
13 Kinnegad ?
12 ?
11 St.lomans
10 ?
09 Maryland Tang ?
08 Maryland Tang
07 Tubberclare
06

Would be great if everyone added the years they know and I will do a full list.
I know a lot of men that have said I won a minor well let's see if it's div 1 anyway.

PowellJohn (Westmeath) - Posts: 95 - 06/11/2022 16:02:50    2446637

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Replying To DixieNormus:  "
Replying To westmeathman99:  "Only about 3 weeks late to the party but decided I'd put together a a team of the Junior Championship.. Let me know what ye all think.

1. Craig Sweeney (Multyfarnham)
2. Tommy McGivney (Multyfarnham)
3. Paul Heavin (Multyfarnham)
4. Gavin Lyons (Bunbrosna)
5. Aidan Finnan (Bunbrosna)
6. Ciaran Madden (Multyfarnham)
7. Anthony Larkin (Garrycastle)
8. Ronan Wallace (Multyfarnham)
9. Anthony McGivney (Multyfarnham)
10. Barry O'Mara (Bunbrosna)
11. Donal O'Donoghue (Mullingar Shamrocks)
12. Stephen Sweeney (Multyfarnham)
13. Jack Carroll (The Downs)
14. Adam Kennedy (Garrycastle)
15. Jordan McDonnell (St. Joesephs)

Subs: Shane Moran (Garrycastle), Aran Whelan (Multyfarnham), Dean Slevin (St. Josephs), Niall Hardiman (Mullingar Shamrocks), Conor Lyons (Bunbrosna), Ciaran O'Neill (Garrycastle), Peter Tormey (Bunbrosna), Brendan Murtagh (The Downs), Shane Williams (Multyfarnham)."
This this is multy dominance is poor especially in defence. Multy where the only team in the junior championship to set themselves up as a defensive unit and while they did this well they only kept 2 clean sheets if I'm not mistaken and one was against balinagore who were piss poor this year. While I didn't see much of the second teams so I can't comment on them from watching the first teams in the junior championship I think there would be more players from bun and Joseph's in the team"
You are very much mistaken. Multy kept 5 clean sheets in their 8 games in the championship. St. Paul's, St. Joseph's and Bunbrosna were the only teams to get a goal against them.

AlaRad10 (Westmeath) - Posts: 13 - 06/11/2022 19:05:14    2446666

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Replying To Left Full:  "I would expect The Downs, Shandonagh & Multy all to win their games at the weekend."
2 out of 3 ain't bad!
Multy just about got over the line but were alot better than the score line says.
The Downs were full value for their win, could have won by a lot more missing a good few easy chances.
Huge day for them in Croke park the next day out & they can beat ratoath.
Can the downs actually win leinster, based on today's performance they will be hard beaten.
Shandonagh got caught out by a very good Kilkenny team.....maybe they took it for granted.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 239 - 06/11/2022 20:00:50    2446678

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Replying To PowellJohn:  "A bit off topic but is there a list anywhere of who won minor Div 1 and premier championship.
I know premier wasn't always a thing.

I know roughly the last 10 years
2022 Tubberclare
2021 Moate
2020 Killucan
2019 The Downs
2018 The Downs
2017 Athlone
16 Shandonagh
15 The Downs ??
14 The Downs
13 Kinnegad ?
12 ?
11 St.lomans
10 ?
09 Maryland Tang ?
08 Maryland Tang
07 Tubberclare
06

Would be great if everyone added the years they know and I will do a full list.
I know a lot of men that have said I won a minor well let's see if it's div 1 anyway."
This is from old programmes …. I don't know who won the ones with both finalists listed


1957 Shamrocks

1960 St Martins
1961 Shamrocks
1962 Athlone
1963 Clann Braonain
1964 St Brigid
1965 St Martins
1966 Shamrocks
1967 St Martins
1968 St Martins
1969 Athlone
1970 Mullingar
1971 Mullingar
1972 Kilbeggan
1973 Kilbeggan
1974 Moate
1975 Tubberclair
1976 Tubberclair
1977 Mullingar
1978 Athlone
1979 Athlone
1980 Rosemount
1981 Athlone
1982 Mullingar
1983 Mullingar
1984 Athlone
1985 Mullingar
1986 Athlone
1987 Mullingar Shamrocks
1988 Mullingar Shamrocks
1989 St Brigids
1990 Clann Braonain
1991 Clann Braonain
1992 St Finians
1993 Athlone
1994 Mullingar Shamrocks
1995 St Lomans
1996 Garrycastle
1997 Ennell Shamrocks
1998 Shannon Gaels
1999 Garrycastle
2000 Inny Gaels
2001 Inny Gaels
2002 Mullingar Shamrocks
2004 St Finians v Clann Braonain

2008 Mullingar Shamrocks
2009 Clann Bhraonain
2010 St Lomans v Ennell Shamrocks

2018 Coralstown/Kinnegad v The Downs
2019 Coralstown/Kinnegad v St Martins

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 06/11/2022 21:31:26    2446687

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Great win for The Downs at the weekend. Never gonna get a better chance to get to a final now as they will play Ratoath from Meath who Garrycastle beat in 2019. Big day out too as the game will be played in Croke Park

Only weakness from the Downs team looks like the GK his kick outs all year have been very poor.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 07/11/2022 09:12:20    2446694

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Replying To PowellJohn:  "A bit off topic but is there a list anywhere of who won minor Div 1 and premier championship.
I know premier wasn't always a thing.

I know roughly the last 10 years
2022 Tubberclare
2021 Moate
2020 Killucan
2019 The Downs
2018 The Downs
2017 Athlone
16 Shandonagh
15 The Downs ??
14 The Downs
13 Kinnegad ?
12 ?
11 St.lomans
10 ?
09 Maryland Tang ?
08 Maryland Tang
07 Tubberclare
06

Would be great if everyone added the years they know and I will do a full list.
I know a lot of men that have said I won a minor well let's see if it's div 1 anyway."
2012 - Moate All Whites

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 07/11/2022 09:17:30    2446695

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Replying To Left Full:  "2 out of 3 ain't bad!
Multy just about got over the line but were alot better than the score line says.
The Downs were full value for their win, could have won by a lot more missing a good few easy chances.
Huge day for them in Croke park the next day out & they can beat ratoath.
Can the downs actually win leinster, based on today's performance they will be hard beaten.
Shandonagh got caught out by a very good Kilkenny team.....maybe they took it for granted."
Don't see how multy we're much better than the shoreline suggests.. they scored 1 point in the first 30 minutes and Ballycommon squandered 4/5 goal chances.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 07/11/2022 10:12:24    2446707

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Tend to agree, Multy's forwards bar Williams and Wallace were not threatening and young Sweeney's saves were the ultimate difference.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 07/11/2022 10:38:54    2446713

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Tend to agree, Multy's forwards bar Williams and Wallace were not threatening and young Sweeney's saves were the ultimate difference."
Match report in Offaly paper said Multy had 12 wides compared to only 3 from Ballycommon. The reporter suggested Ballycommon could have no complaints.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 239 - 07/11/2022 11:28:02    2446721

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Replying To Temple56:  "2012 - Moate All Whites"
2015 was The Downs.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 175 - 07/11/2022 11:56:43    2446726

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "This is from old programmes …. I don't know who won the ones with both finalists listed


1957 Shamrocks

1960 St Martins
1961 Shamrocks
1962 Athlone
1963 Clann Braonain
1964 St Brigid
1965 St Martins
1966 Shamrocks
1967 St Martins
1968 St Martins
1969 Athlone
1970 Mullingar
1971 Mullingar
1972 Kilbeggan
1973 Kilbeggan
1974 Moate
1975 Tubberclair
1976 Tubberclair
1977 Mullingar
1978 Athlone
1979 Athlone
1980 Rosemount
1981 Athlone
1982 Mullingar
1983 Mullingar
1984 Athlone
1985 Mullingar
1986 Athlone
1987 Mullingar Shamrocks
1988 Mullingar Shamrocks
1989 St Brigids
1990 Clann Braonain
1991 Clann Braonain
1992 St Finians
1993 Athlone
1994 Mullingar Shamrocks
1995 St Lomans
1996 Garrycastle
1997 Ennell Shamrocks
1998 Shannon Gaels
1999 Garrycastle
2000 Inny Gaels
2001 Inny Gaels
2002 Mullingar Shamrocks
2004 St Finians v Clann Braonain

2008 Mullingar Shamrocks
2009 Clann Bhraonain
2010 St Lomans v Ennell Shamrocks

2018 Coralstown/Kinnegad v The Downs
2019 Coralstown/Kinnegad v St Martins"
2003 Shamrocks
2004 Finians
2005 Lomans
2006 Patricks
2007 Patricks
2008 Shamrocks
2009 Clann B
2010 Ennell Shamrocks

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 07/11/2022 12:02:12    2446728

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A win is a win. The year Multy won Leinster they scored the exact same amount in the Leinster final.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 07/11/2022 12:08:58    2446731

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Replying To Left Full:  "Match report in Offaly paper said Multy had 12 wides compared to only 3 from Ballycommon. The reporter suggested Ballycommon could have no complaints."
I wouldn't disagree that Multy deserved to win but to say that a 3 point loss flattered Ballycommon simply isn't true. Stats don't tell the full story, the wide count doesn't factor in the at least 5 shots Ballycommon dropped into Sweeneys hands or the goal chances they didn't take. A lot of Multys wides were long range frees that went well wide. Also huge credit to Craig Sweeney, made an unbelievable save with a couple of minutes left.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 07/11/2022 12:59:11    2446739

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It may not grab the headlines like a division 1 final but the St. Pauls/Delvin vs Tyrellspass Division 4 U17 final turned out to be a very entertaining game of football. Pauls/Delvin fully deserved the win but credit to Tyrellspass for running them close in the end. Pauls/Delvin were that bit more economical in front of goal which proved the difference on the day.
Overall a very entertaining game of football for this time of the year - well done to both teams.

Boarderboy (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 07/11/2022 15:48:36    2446764

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Three matches played in Leinster Colleges A championship and three Westmeath schools have suffered comprehensive defeats. The latest this afternoon with Marist beaten by Naas by 22 points. Should we be concerned considering our recent underage record has been poor? Where are we going wrong?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 08/11/2022 16:40:16    2446898

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Schools football is not an indicator for county underage football. WH schools have boxed well over the last 20 years with little in return on the county stage in that period.

Captainfantastic (Westmeath) - Posts: 44 - 08/11/2022 21:39:21    2446920

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The St Josephs team that won Leinster in 2020 was packed with Westmeath minors and future U20s. We haven't much tradition of winning Leinster schools. Marist and Moate have reached finals in recent years. Athlone College in 2008 were the last team from the county to win the senior title before St Joseph's. Then it's all the way back to 1983 when CBS won it so wouldn't be overly concerned about those results. With five Westmeath schools in the A comp it can only be a good thing to have so many players exposed to top level. Schools football doesn't always reflect county underage but take Colaiste Choilm in Tullamore. They went from winning the 2020 B to getting to A semi final last year and gave Joseph's a good beating few weeks ago. It's no coincidence that this has coincided with Offaly's upturn in fortunes at underage.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 175 - 09/11/2022 09:46:51    2446927

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Replying To jamsie:  "2003 Shamrocks
2004 Finians
2005 Lomans
2006 Patricks
2007 Patricks
2008 Shamrocks
2009 Clann B
2010 Ennell Shamrocks"
I see Mullingar named as finalists for some years. Is that different from Mullingar Shamrocks, and St. Lomans, two other Mullingar based teams ?.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 09/11/2022 10:41:11    2446936

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WH schools have boxed well in Leinster colleges in the last 20 years? We've won 2 championships and had the very odd finalist but considering there's five schools involved I wouldn't consider that we've competed well. It might not be an indicator of underage success but being beaten by 15-20 points in three successive games hardly bodes well for the future. Our record at minor level since 2000 is in the bottom two or three in the province.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 09/11/2022 11:25:47    2446945

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