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Some result for The Downs last night, beating the reigning champions by 12 points is a statement. St. Mary's Rochfortbridge going well in intermediate with another impressive win last night. Final score of 1-12 to 1-8 flattered St. Malachy's with the Bridge making a load of substitutions in last quarter when they led by 1-11 to 0-5. Two Cullys, Sean Lyster, Paul Carey excellent, Eoin Gorman in goals very reliable, pressure on St. Malachy's now with two defeats and hurling championship starting.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 21/07/2022 09:26:49    2433264

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Some result for The Downs last night, beating the reigning champions by 12 points is a statement. St. Mary's Rochfortbridge going well in intermediate with another impressive win last night. Final score of 1-12 to 1-8 flattered St. Malachy's with the Bridge making a load of substitutions in last quarter when they led by 1-11 to 0-5. Two Cullys, Sean Lyster, Paul Carey excellent, Eoin Gorman in goals very reliable, pressure on St. Malachy's now with two defeats and hurling championship starting."
The Downs played well for the game it was. It was over after 15 minutes. Lomans missing John Heslin, David Whelan, TJ Cox, 4/5 lads either playing out of position and/ or injured. Wouldnt read into it. The Lomans camp were happy to use the game as run out and learned a lot more from it than The Downs. Lomans build in the group stages and peak in the knock out, The Downs should learn to take a leaf out of that book. Lomans in 2nd gear unfortunately, and it was a hard watch from a spectators point of view but that's the way Lomans have been for the past 2 seasons.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 21/07/2022 10:45:27    2433291

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Lomans certainly won't be panicking but they did seem to give up the fight quite easily. Don't think it changes a whole lot, Lomans still favourites to retain championship I suggest. The Downs were missing 2 county panelists too in OSullivan and Drumm. Lomans generally just do enough to get into knockout stages and save the best wine until last.
Great win for Caulry last night, maybe the manager should remain outside the wire !
No surprise in Kinnegad's comfortable win over Shamrocks.
Moate v Athlone and Tang v TPass tonight in Section B.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 21/07/2022 13:44:35    2433364

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Big game tonight for Milltownpass against Castledaly. Win and they are right back in the mix a loss and they are under a bit of pressure already. St. Marys Rochfortbridge seem to be motoring well and will surely be pushing for a semi final spot now. Malachys under pressure now and hurling fixtures coming thick and fast wont help their case. Ballymore going well in section 2. Intermediate championship is super competitive as always.

Leftpeg1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 88 - 21/07/2022 13:54:53    2433367

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Replying To Edman78:  "The Downs played well for the game it was. It was over after 15 minutes. Lomans missing John Heslin, David Whelan, TJ Cox, 4/5 lads either playing out of position and/ or injured. Wouldnt read into it. The Lomans camp were happy to use the game as run out and learned a lot more from it than The Downs. Lomans build in the group stages and peak in the knock out, The Downs should learn to take a leaf out of that book. Lomans in 2nd gear unfortunately, and it was a hard watch from a spectators point of view but that's the way Lomans have been for the past 2 seasons."
Lomans didn't learn anything that they didn't already know from the first few games last year. i.e. without Heslin they are severely weaker.
So how should The Downs take a leaf out of Lomans book? They don't have 1 player that they massively rely on that they could rest , in order to help them "learn a lot more". Not sure how you've managed to turn that game in to a positive for Lomans and a negative for The Downs. Good effort though.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 21/07/2022 15:21:26    2433400

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Replying To jamsie:  "Lomans didn't learn anything that they didn't already know from the first few games last year. i.e. without Heslin they are severely weaker.
So how should The Downs take a leaf out of Lomans book? They don't have 1 player that they massively rely on that they could rest , in order to help them "learn a lot more". Not sure how you've managed to turn that game in to a positive for Lomans and a negative for The Downs. Good effort though."
I'm not turning it into a negative against them, they played very well against a severely depleted Lomans team. They started the game without 7 championship starting players that will feature later in the championship! I'm not singling out John Heslin at all, John would be the equivalent of taking out Luke Loughlin from the Downs team, great player but it's the excess missing outside of the "star players" that hampered Lomans last night. I counted 7 players from last years championship semi final and final missing for Lomans. So the positive for Lomans is that they have half of their team to return, that's a positive in my opinion anyway, but let's say it's a negative so you don't get any more upset.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 21/07/2022 16:20:49    2433422

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Replying To Edman78:  "I'm not turning it into a negative against them, they played very well against a severely depleted Lomans team. They started the game without 7 championship starting players that will feature later in the championship! I'm not singling out John Heslin at all, John would be the equivalent of taking out Luke Loughlin from the Downs team, great player but it's the excess missing outside of the "star players" that hampered Lomans last night. I counted 7 players from last years championship semi final and final missing for Lomans. So the positive for Lomans is that they have half of their team to return, that's a positive in my opinion anyway, but let's say it's a negative so you don't get any more upset."
Not remotely upset - and I'll be more than happy for The Downs to never win the championship again!! But the suggestion that they should somehow mirror Lomans approach in order to peak later makes no sense. That's the point I was picking up on. Lomans will certainly get stronger and will still probably win the championship. But they would prefer to have won this week. Or at the very least , not get hammered.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 21/07/2022 16:47:45    2433427

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TJ Cox, John Heslin and David Whelan. Who are the other four regulars missing last night? Fola came on as sub as did Ryan Jones. The Downs were missing Charlie Drumm, Kevin O' Sullivan, Liam Moran, Keith Carroll and Dean Egerton.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 21/07/2022 17:07:20    2433435

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Good win for the Downs last night against St.Lomans but dont think Declan Kelly will be too put out by it considering they were down a few regulars-Downs were impressive on sunday v Kinnegad at stages but its at the tail end /business end of the championship that you have to be beating St.Lomans who historically get stronger later in c/ship.Caulry were good value for their win against Garrycastle-4 pts down midway thru second half -they score 5 without reply and even when Garrycastle equalised almost at the death Caulry worked one more great play and Nally hit a great winner-one note the 3 regulars forwards Baker,McCormack and Nally who didnt start last sunday v St.Lomans were probably the strongest along with Maguire as Garrycastle faded and Caulry took control.

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 165 - 21/07/2022 17:40:10    2433444

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "TJ Cox, John Heslin and David Whelan. Who are the other four regulars missing last night? Fola came on as sub as did Ryan Jones. The Downs were missing Charlie Drumm, Kevin O' Sullivan, Liam Moran, Keith Carroll and Dean Egerton."
David Whelan, Oisin Hogan, Paddy Dowdall, Sean Flanagan, Rory Sheehan, TJ Cox, John Heslin, (Fola came on last night when Lomans were 10 points down) this team started both the semi final and County final last year. Jones wasn't a starter last year. And you've named a few downs players missing there… fair enough, but let's be real.. the caliber of player doesn't come close to the Lomans ones I'm afraid.

Anyway this will all make sense in the knock out stages. You can't blame the Downs for winning and winning very impressively, that's not the point, we're simply stating that the Lomans last night is not the Lomans that the Downs will face down the line, if they do meet again.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 21/07/2022 19:55:29    2433456

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Group 2 in the senior championship is very interesting after the opening 2 rounds. Tpass athlone and killucan all at the top and it looks like 2 of these teams will be the ones to progress to the knockout stages. Tang and rosemount both winless and their game will be massive. Moate also only on one point. Was at the tang tpass game and tang were desperately unlucky not to win. Tang were the better team and only for a mix up for a very sloppy tpass goal tang would've won. Egan was very accurate from frees and this was what won tpass the game. Gonoud and slevin were solid at the back. Good to see tumelty make an appearance in the second half he was a threat. Was surprised with some of the positional changes tang made including putting lennon back corner back as he was one of tangs better attacking players against athlone. Surprised coughlan didn't come on as he appeared to be warming up for the last 10 minutes. He's obviously carrying an injury. Athlone will be very happy with their 2 points against moate not sure if connellan played after supposedly getting a leg injury in the first round.

Steve7843 (Roscommon) - Posts: 13 - 22/07/2022 10:21:39    2433488

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Fixtures finally released today for next weekend, exactly 7 days notice in advance of the bank holiday weekend. Impossible for players to plan anything.

Is there any other county board as bad as the Westmeath county board at releasing fixtures?

ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 120 - 22/07/2022 16:17:16    2433577

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Championship started last weekend, already a lad complaining about players being unable to plan things. Everyone knew that championships were starting last weekend and pretty much every weekend for 7-8 weeks.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 23/07/2022 11:13:04    2433638

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Championship started last weekend, already a lad complaining about players being unable to plan things. Everyone knew that championships were starting last weekend and pretty much every weekend for 7-8 weeks."
That's all well and good but your game could be the Sunday and you could have a wedding on the Friday or Saturday.. Or your game could be Friday and you could plan something for the Saturday or Sunday with family... Its a joke that should be corrected

Dote (Westmeath) - Posts: 225 - 23/07/2022 12:08:39    2433663

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Replying To Dote:  "That's all well and good but your game could be the Sunday and you could have a wedding on the Friday or Saturday.. Or your game could be Friday and you could plan something for the Saturday or Sunday with family... Its a joke that should be corrected"
Totally agree with this. Release all group fixtures with times, dates and venues in advance of the group stage. It's not only about players. They have families and kids. If they know in advance they have a game on a Friday for example they can plan a weekend away, or work, social life etc and not be waiting for 7 days notice. If every other county can do it so can Westmeath, it's not that difficult!

Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 23/07/2022 14:42:57    2433714

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Championship started last weekend, already a lad complaining about players being unable to plan things. Everyone knew that championships were starting last weekend and pretty much every weekend for 7-8 weeks."
A lot of people commenting here who dont play or who are affected by these decesions. Its absolutely disgraceful that players do not know until a week beforehand when there playing. I am a current player who cannot plan anything in advance whilst the lads over in Offaly etc can organise their entire summer. Ridiculous from the county board but nothing new in Westmeath

Pjspillane (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 23/07/2022 18:30:46    2433787

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How do you know who's playing or affected?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 24/07/2022 13:48:31    2433885

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Does anyone know if the yearbook is out yet for last year? its usually out around Spring time?

gti (Westmeath) - Posts: 240 - 25/07/2022 10:16:31    2434128

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Just on the championship fixtures, we do know the assigned weekends as per fixtures plan but I agree it would be help to have all the group stage fixtures confirmed in detail. Big ask for one person who I believe does both codes.
The social media coverage of games is the bare minimum. You'll get a half time and full time score if you're lucky. Tables on website don't get updated until the next day. Again, more people needed I suggest. Some clubs are great on updates, others useless. Was at a SFC game in Cusack Park last week and no team sheets or line ups called out on PA.
At a hurling championship game in Kinnegad over the weekend and they didn't even bother with the score board.
Rant over !

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 25/07/2022 10:58:02    2434145

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Luke Loughlin injured yesterday in the hurling. Anyone know how serious this is?

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 25/07/2022 12:54:02    2434210

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