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Replying To Meridian:  "Vulture Clubs? How can neighbouring Clubs be vultures to a Club that has never had an underage team? That is a bizarre comment. Parents are well able to decide upon who their child plays with and in most instances makes the initial contact to whatever Club they want their children to play with. When the local club has no team what are those parents to do? ....not play at all until the children are adults?

One could to a 360 on this and ask how is such a Club able to field at adult level with no underage and in such a setup how many of that team are even from the area?"
Go through the clubs in Westmeath and see lads who are playing with clubs in an area they are not living that have underage teams. Westmeath is a free for all with no parish rule. In most counties that cant happen.

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 16 - 23/01/2024 09:47:26    2521687

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Replying To BigSur:  "All 3 not far away but Drumm is a natural full back and does he get in ahead of Maguire ?Maybe he could do a kob around midfield. OSullivan did well v Longford and should be on the bench at least. The team I suggested is what I think Dessie will go with as opposed to what I'd pick. First season for Nolan at this level but he's a clever lad with a good engine and works extremely hard.
As someone else said it will probably b the old dog for this derby although he went with around 10 of those v Louth."
Drumm has been away for a few years, hasn't yet hit the heights he previously played at but will get to it with games, think he played midfield for the downs this year. Sam Smyth is the natural successor to Kevin maguire. Its dessie tried and tested team. Would like to see a few of leech, whittaker, scahill, baker, o'sullivan play a bit more in the league, all aged around 20/21 this year and will be the corner stones of the team going forward.

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 80 - 23/01/2024 10:53:49    2521696

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Replying To jiminycricket:  "Go through the clubs in Westmeath and see lads who are playing with clubs in an area they are not living that have underage teams. Westmeath is a free for all with no parish rule. In most counties that cant happen."
That's not true, vast majority of clubs field players from their own geographical area, name a club whose players are nowhere near the club's location? There are a couple of ones that come to mind but likes of Raharney, The Gaels, Pollard, Rochfortbridge, Milltown, Ringtown, Brigid's, Athlone, Ballymore, Castledaly, Tubberclair, Killucan, Paul's, Kilbeggan, Shamrocks, Shandonagh, Tyrrellspass, Milltownpass and others seem to always have players from their catchment area,

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1473 - 23/01/2024 14:34:36    2521730

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "That's not true, vast majority of clubs field players from their own geographical area, name a club whose players are nowhere near the club's location? There are a couple of ones that come to mind but likes of Raharney, The Gaels, Pollard, Rochfortbridge, Milltown, Ringtown, Brigid's, Athlone, Ballymore, Castledaly, Tubberclair, Killucan, Paul's, Kilbeggan, Shamrocks, Shandonagh, Tyrrellspass, Milltownpass and others seem to always have players from their catchment area,"
One of the clubs you have mentioned is currently being looked at for fielding an ineligible player so I am not sure you know the exact details of the clubs listed

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 301 - 23/01/2024 15:06:22    2521733

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Fielding an ineligible player on the grounds of where he lives in the county? Otherwise it's not relevant to the discussion. Making vague unsubstantiated claims not too difficult either.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1473 - 23/01/2024 16:14:02    2521743

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Back to the football , I cant disagree with Gerry Buckley in his newspaper column this week, the best days are behind more than a few of our players. We need an injection of youth, you look at the defence that started against Louth a few weeks back, a lot of mileage up. Hopefully we see a few fresh faced starters in Tullamore .

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 174 - 23/01/2024 16:58:42    2521757

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There are 100% players driving by clubs to go to certain clubs. A parish rule should exist, but would never be voted in by the clubs. Similarly to last week's vote on u18s, where the top table had the majority of votes.

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 80 - 23/01/2024 17:02:53    2521758

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "That's not true, vast majority of clubs field players from their own geographical area, name a club whose players are nowhere near the club's location? There are a couple of ones that come to mind but likes of Raharney, The Gaels, Pollard, Rochfortbridge, Milltown, Ringtown, Brigid's, Athlone, Ballymore, Castledaly, Tubberclair, Killucan, Paul's, Kilbeggan, Shamrocks, Shandonagh, Tyrrellspass, Milltownpass and others seem to always have players from their catchment area,"
Wouldn't be sure about most of these clubs but I'm sure Athlone have a player from Tubberclair, Castledaly have a player from Rosemount, T Pass have players from Rochfordbridge and Shandonagh have a player that is from Collinstown. Probably loads more to add to this. No parish rule in Westmeath means players can play with anyone they like before the age of 11 and after that they can transfer if the two clubs sign the papers

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 380 - 23/01/2024 19:17:15    2521786

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "Back to the football , I cant disagree with Gerry Buckley in his newspaper column this week, the best days are behind more than a few of our players. We need an injection of youth, you look at the defence that started against Louth a few weeks back, a lot of mileage up. Hopefully we see a few fresh faced starters in Tullamore ."
Lads looked way of the pace against Louth and it's confirmed Heslin will not be committing for the 1st few rounds. Played Mayo last week and lost by 5/6 points.

This years it's on Dessie to bring through some new players. Robbie Forde, Conor McCormack, Eoin Mulvihill, Charlie Drumm, Matthew Whittker and Daniel Scahill are next in line to break into the senior team in my opinion. Dessie will go with experience this weekend because it's such a massive game for year ahead and you can't blame him. Games against Wicklow, Sligo, Antrim and Limerick are the games he needs to try players out in.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 380 - 23/01/2024 19:24:05    2521787

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "That's not true, vast majority of clubs field players from their own geographical area, name a club whose players are nowhere near the club's location? There are a couple of ones that come to mind but likes of Raharney, The Gaels, Pollard, Rochfortbridge, Milltown, Ringtown, Brigid's, Athlone, Ballymore, Castledaly, Tubberclair, Killucan, Paul's, Kilbeggan, Shamrocks, Shandonagh, Tyrrellspass, Milltownpass and others seem to always have players from their catchment area,"
You were nearly spot on until you mentioned Athlone and Tyrellspass here, for the rest of the clubs i am uncertain, Neighbouring parishes will always have family ties to one place or the other. Listening to a few people Tyrellspass and Kilbeggan there a defo a few that are or are not in either parish, someone said Castledaly and Rosemount, i am uncertain if they even Touch one another parish wise ????, Athlone have multiple players who are not in the catchment but thats normal. Malachys another club because of Castletown geoghan do really well off as they have ballinagore, loughnavalley, in close proximity. The community Games years ago was the one tournament that had parish rule and was funny to see certain lads play with there area and play with a different club, Cant see county board change this how would they ?

PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 31 - 24/01/2024 11:51:02    2521870

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Which Athlone players are not in their catchment?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1473 - 24/01/2024 12:51:27    2521891

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This is the team I'd like to see for Offaly assuming heslin and connellan are out.

1. J Daly
2. J smith
3. K Maguire
4. D scahill
5. N Harte
6. R Wallace
7. D lynch
8. J lynam
9. A McCormack
10. S McCartan
11. Conor McCormack
12. S Baker
13. L loughlin
14 . R Forde
15. R O'Toole

Subs to use : j Dolan , j gonoud, c drumm , k o Sullivan

Lakecounty94 (Westmeath) - Posts: 57 - 24/01/2024 14:36:51    2521907

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Which Athlone players are not in their catchment?"
They have a few players from Monksland in Roscommon and they have Stephen O Connor that played underage and still lives in Tubberclair catchment area.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 380 - 24/01/2024 15:38:04    2521915

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Replying To Lakecounty94:  "This is the team I'd like to see for Offaly assuming heslin and connellan are out.

1. J Daly
2. J smith
3. K Maguire
4. D scahill
5. N Harte
6. R Wallace
7. D lynch
8. J lynam
9. A McCormack
10. S McCartan
11. Conor McCormack
12. S Baker
13. L loughlin
14 . R Forde
15. R O'Toole

Subs to use : j Dolan , j gonoud, c drumm , k o Sullivan"
anton sullivan will have a field day

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1798 - 24/01/2024 15:42:49    2521916

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "anton sullivan will have a field day"
Why??

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 80 - 24/01/2024 15:48:02    2521917

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Replying To Temple56:  "Lads looked way of the pace against Louth and it's confirmed Heslin will not be committing for the 1st few rounds. Played Mayo last week and lost by 5/6 points.

This years it's on Dessie to bring through some new players. Robbie Forde, Conor McCormack, Eoin Mulvihill, Charlie Drumm, Matthew Whittker and Daniel Scahill are next in line to break into the senior team in my opinion. Dessie will go with experience this weekend because it's such a massive game for year ahead and you can't blame him. Games against Wicklow, Sligo, Antrim and Limerick are the games he needs to try players out in."
Think so myself but for what its worth this is the team I would pick going forward presuming everyone available
1 Jason Daly
2 Jack Smyth
3 Andy Mc Cormack
4 Dan Scahill
5 Nigel Harte
6 Ronan Wallace
7 David Lynch
8 Jonny Lynam
9 Ray Connellan
10 Sam Mc Cartan
11 Ronan O Toole
12 Senan Baker
13 Luke Loughlin
14 John Heslin
15 Stephen Smyth
Subs Kevin Maguire, Jamie Gonoud , Jimmy Dolan, Conor Dillon, Lorcan Dolan, Eoin Mulvhill, Conor Mc Cormack, Kieran Martin, David Giles, Mathew Whitaker.

Mc Cormack played a few games at full back last year and didnt do anything wrong, we need a new full back lads. Wallace would be more effective as centre back I would say but could also do a job minding house. Maguire is the best weve had that I have seen but unfortunately hes not getting any younger, same goes for Gonoud and Jimmy Dolan, two great Westmeath men. Id question whether they have 70 minutes of high tempo championship football in them but dont get me wrong they still have lots to offer off the bench with 10/15 mins to go. Im not basing this off 1 O Byrne Cup match . Sorry if this rubs anyone up the wrong way .

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 174 - 24/01/2024 16:04:41    2521919

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "anton sullivan will have a field day"
Every day is a field day for Army man Anton

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 174 - 24/01/2024 16:09:29    2521921

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Proposing Dropping Kevin Maguire must be most ludicrous post ever

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1473 - 24/01/2024 16:35:18    2521924

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Replying To Temple56:  "They have a few players from Monksland in Roscommon and they have Stephen O Connor that played underage and still lives in Tubberclair catchment area."
Scally, Finlass, O Connor, Mulligan and presuming at underage as Temple56 said the roscommon side of town there are a few, not saying anything wrong just its always going to happen. Same Goes the otherway probably a few on the outskirts of these towns going the otherway.

PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 31 - 24/01/2024 16:58:35    2521931

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Some of those lads have surnames long associated with Athlone, that's perfectly acceptable, Tommy Lambden played for years with Loman's despite living far from the club, the Lambden family's connection with Loman's goes back generations, plenty of other examples that are like that.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1473 - 24/01/2024 18:19:33    2521938

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