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Replying To Tailteannchamps:  "I see the downs want the JP money that was given to the clubs to go towards a centre of excellence for the county. If they want to give up their share for it off they go, I'm sure the majority of clubs have a much better use for it."
I think it's a very valid proposal and one that should be explored and discussed. It would surely be hugely beneficial for the entire Gaa community in Westmeath if invested in the centre of excellence. Look at the wonderful facilities that our neighbours Offaly and Meath have developed in recent years

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 270 - 19/01/2024 23:16:57    2521056

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "I think it's a very valid proposal and one that should be explored and discussed. It would surely be hugely beneficial for the entire Gaa community in Westmeath if invested in the centre of excellence. Look at the wonderful facilities that our neighbours Offaly and Meath have developed in recent years"
I have to agree, clubs might get somewhere close to 10k each, in the current climate that's not huge money. All going to the centre of excellence only makes sense. Ultimately clubs are going to have to fundraise for the coe anyway. Wouldn't JP money be a massive help, but rather than give county board a free run, let them match fund it. A COE will help all clubs in county

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 20/01/2024 08:05:06    2521064

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Replying To Upforthegame23:  "I have to agree, clubs might get somewhere close to 10k each, in the current climate that's not huge money. All going to the centre of excellence only makes sense. Ultimately clubs are going to have to fundraise for the coe anyway. Wouldn't JP money be a massive help, but rather than give county board a free run, let them match fund it. A COE will help all clubs in county"
Nonsense 10k might not be alot for the Lomans the downs etc. But what benefit is a centre of excellence for the Loughnavalleys of this world be it would be better for them to have the money to put towards a GPO or developments in their club .

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 16 - 20/01/2024 11:22:50    2521091

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Replying To jiminycricket:  "Nonsense 10k might not be alot for the Lomans the downs etc. But what benefit is a centre of excellence for the Loughnavalleys of this world be it would be better for them to have the money to put towards a GPO or developments in their club ."
I won't say your view is nonsense but the cost of new nets, jerseys etc is same for every club. My point was, clubs will have to raise the monies for a COE anyway. If the 10k would get loughnavalley the gpo or whatever else, then great, I thought loughnavalley were in with st. Malachys fr underage.

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 20/01/2024 11:58:59    2521098

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Replying To jiminycricket:  "Nonsense 10k might not be alot for the Lomans the downs etc. But what benefit is a centre of excellence for the Loughnavalleys of this world be it would be better for them to have the money to put towards a GPO or developments in their club ."
The clubs are more important than the county. They cater for all players whereas the county facilitates a tiny percentage.

dbpcmi (Westmeath) - Posts: 66 - 20/01/2024 11:59:06    2521099

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JP specifically said that the money should go to the clubs so if it's sent back to the county board it would not be in the spirit of the donation. Also there's nothing to say he will not decide to donate again in future so his wishes should be respected. It's funny lads on here thinking they should decide what's done with other peoples money.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 20/01/2024 12:18:18    2521101

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Using Loughnavalley as an example is surely not making a valid point, they have made zero effort at underage in donkeys years, no excuses, a National school in the area,

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 20/01/2024 13:52:20    2521116

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The idea behind JP McManus's generous donation was to benefit all clubs -both big and small and while a center of excellence is of great importance for inter county going forward it dosent benefit the young lads and girls who make up the majority of our clubs and who might be deemed"not county material"but play week in week out with their pals because they love it.Their own clubs need this financial boost to improve thier own facilities or maybe new gear etc.-im sure this was the intention of JP.

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 165 - 20/01/2024 14:25:39    2521121

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Using Loughnavalley as an example is surely not making a valid point, they have made zero effort at underage in donkeys years, no excuses, a National school in the area,"
Negative talk again best leave Loughnavalley alone there a credit to themselves having fielded both ladies and men's football for years , when it would be easier to pack it in having all the vulture clubs around them tapping up any half decent player really talking nonsense again your points of view are very limited .

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 33 - 20/01/2024 17:04:08    2521152

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Well first of all for the money to go from the clubs to county board would have to be approved by Jp McManus first I'm sure he would have no problem with it once we have a valid proposal.
Number 2 clubs are getting €11,000 each not 14 ,000 as once stated however it is money the clubs didn't have last October/November and I would say that all clubs were atleast getting by then and I'm sure all clubs would love the money but I think it is essential that we start pushing for a COE because that would allow for development in the county and also take pressure of clubs having to provide there facilities to county teams. It is ok for clubs with 2/3 pitches to give out pitches but for clubs with just the 1 it is hard to say no to county teams and also the money received for getting the pitch.

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 20/01/2024 17:20:53    2521157

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Replying To Undertheroad:  "Negative talk again best leave Loughnavalley alone there a credit to themselves having fielded both ladies and men's football for years , when it would be easier to pack it in having all the vulture clubs around them tapping up any half decent player really talking nonsense again your points of view are very limited ."
A lad claiming Loughnavalley are a credit to themselves in men's football is really showing a lack of knowledge of the local scene. How do Ballinagore, Joseph's, Castledaly, Ballycomoyle and other small rural clubs manage to consistently compete year in year out surrounded by other clubs and competing codes, Loughnavalley's policy of recruiting former players from other clubs enabled them to barely survive, their ladies section has shown the men's side what to do, underage teams from the area playing regularly, they have three players on the Westmeath ladies panel.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 20/01/2024 19:20:55    2521177

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Replying To Westmeath213:  "Well first of all for the money to go from the clubs to county board would have to be approved by Jp McManus first I'm sure he would have no problem with it once we have a valid proposal.
Number 2 clubs are getting €11,000 each not 14 ,000 as once stated however it is money the clubs didn't have last October/November and I would say that all clubs were atleast getting by then and I'm sure all clubs would love the money but I think it is essential that we start pushing for a COE because that would allow for development in the county and also take pressure of clubs having to provide there facilities to county teams. It is ok for clubs with 2/3 pitches to give out pitches but for clubs with just the 1 it is hard to say no to county teams and also the money received for getting the pitch."
The county board have had 20 years to sort out a COE, when we were winning Leinster's that's when they should have had the foresight to push ahead. That we still depend on clubs at this stage is ridiculous to provide facilities. That €11,000 is much more useful to a club; facilities, gym equipment, scoreboards could all be purchased.

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 142 - 20/01/2024 19:22:30    2521178

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Using Loughnavalley as an example is surely not making a valid point, they have made zero effort at underage in donkeys years, no excuses, a National school in the area,"
Zero effort? They are amalgamated with st malachys and balinagore

DanGer966 (Westmeath) - Posts: 21 - 20/01/2024 20:05:35    2521188

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "A lad claiming Loughnavalley are a credit to themselves in men's football is really showing a lack of knowledge of the local scene. How do Ballinagore, Joseph's, Castledaly, Ballycomoyle and other small rural clubs manage to consistently compete year in year out surrounded by other clubs and competing codes, Loughnavalley's policy of recruiting former players from other clubs enabled them to barely survive, their ladies section has shown the men's side what to do, underage teams from the area playing regularly, they have three players on the Westmeath ladies panel."
Snobbery is really a sign of a underlying issues with one self .!!!! Loughnavalley are proud Westmeath people who do the best they can they have a former player with a winning All Ireland medal in his pocket and also played all his football for Loughnavalley and not recruited from anywhere else something that you never had also they are doing great work on developing there facilities at present so good on them.

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 33 - 20/01/2024 20:56:01    2521192

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A really tough start for westmeath against offaly next Sunday, from what I saw at games in last year's league, the supporters played a huge part in creating an atmosphere and helping the team. Down, fermanagh, armagh (championship) especially. I really hope all the Westmeath Gaels get out and support the team next week. Everyone has different opinions but I do think we are good enough to get out of div 3. Wishing dessie and the panel the very best of luck

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 21/01/2024 20:56:40    2521408

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Any news on any injuries or drop outs ahead of the game against Offaly this week-end.Will need a full fit squad and to be at our best to get a result but I feel we will get it together and snatch a tight win.

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 165 - 22/01/2024 15:04:19    2521561

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Haven't heard anything at all on injuries. Ray Connellan the main concern who went off injured v Louth and is a bit injury prone but is needed around the middle of the park. Declan Kelly planning an ambush I'd say and these local derbies can be tricky. We'll soon realise how important Heslin is to this team when he's not there. Even for just causing trouble (in a good way) and on the frees.
Possible team based only on the 2 warm-up games

1. Jason Daly
2. Jack Smith
3. Kevin Maguire
4. Jamie Gonoud
5. Nigel Harte
6. Ronan Wallace
7. David Lynch
8. Ray Connellan
9. Andy McCormack
10. Sam McCartan
11. Ronan O'Toole
12. Jonathan Lynam
13. Senan Baker
14. Luke Loughlin
15. Stephen Smith

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 22/01/2024 17:18:15    2521589

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Replying To BigSur:  "Haven't heard anything at all on injuries. Ray Connellan the main concern who went off injured v Louth and is a bit injury prone but is needed around the middle of the park. Declan Kelly planning an ambush I'd say and these local derbies can be tricky. We'll soon realise how important Heslin is to this team when he's not there. Even for just causing trouble (in a good way) and on the frees.
Possible team based only on the 2 warm-up games

1. Jason Daly
2. Jack Smith
3. Kevin Maguire
4. Jamie Gonoud
5. Nigel Harte
6. Ronan Wallace
7. David Lynch
8. Ray Connellan
9. Andy McCormack
10. Sam McCartan
11. Ronan O'Toole
12. Jonathan Lynam
13. Senan Baker
14. Luke Loughlin
15. Stephen Smith"
No room for Charlie Drumm , Ciaran Nolan, Kevin o'Sullivan ???

ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 226 - 22/01/2024 19:46:56    2521627

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Replying To ExiledCuCu:  "No room for Charlie Drumm , Ciaran Nolan, Kevin o'Sullivan ???"
All 3 not far away but Drumm is a natural full back and does he get in ahead of Maguire ?Maybe he could do a kob around midfield. OSullivan did well v Longford and should be on the bench at least. The team I suggested is what I think Dessie will go with as opposed to what I'd pick. First season for Nolan at this level but he's a clever lad with a good engine and works extremely hard.
As someone else said it will probably b the old dog for this derby although he went with around 10 of those v Louth.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 22/01/2024 22:07:19    2521643

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Replying To Undertheroad:  "Negative talk again best leave Loughnavalley alone there a credit to themselves having fielded both ladies and men's football for years , when it would be easier to pack it in having all the vulture clubs around them tapping up any half decent player really talking nonsense again your points of view are very limited ."
Vulture Clubs? How can neighbouring Clubs be vultures to a Club that has never had an underage team? That is a bizarre comment. Parents are well able to decide upon who their child plays with and in most instances makes the initial contact to whatever Club they want their children to play with. When the local club has no team what are those parents to do? ....not play at all until the children are adults?

One could to a 360 on this and ask how is such a Club able to field at adult level with no underage and in such a setup how many of that team are even from the area?

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 23/01/2024 09:27:39    2521680

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