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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "I presume the county are back training, anyone hear of new names or surprises added to the squad. Or anyone not asked back or did not go in?"
There's about 8/9 of the u20s with the quality to be a part of the senior panel so I'd imagine Fortune has some of them involved.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 695 - 24/11/2023 15:23:08    2514489

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Joe Fortune might have no choice but to blood quite a few of the under 20s with a number of established senior players not committing to the squad for 2023-24, can hardly blame them, names I've heard have given great service but prob need a break.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1394 - 26/11/2023 16:56:29    2514633

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Replying To Dheen:  "There's about 8/9 of the u20s with the quality to be a part of the senior panel so I'd imagine Fortune has some of them involved."
8/9 be a long shot.

Oreilly Williams and Clarke will be panellists for senior.

I'd be more worried about why the seniors not going in

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 26/11/2023 20:57:53    2514645

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Joe Fortune might have no choice but to blood quite a few of the under 20s with a number of established senior players not committing to the squad for 2023-24, can hardly blame them, names I've heard have given great service but prob need a break."
Don't be coy, who did you hear?

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 256 - 26/11/2023 21:03:04    2514647

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Tbh these young lads will probably be better off sticking with the U20's.

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 26/11/2023 21:53:27    2514654

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Joe Fortune might have no choice but to blood quite a few of the under 20s with a number of established senior players not committing to the squad for 2023-24, can hardly blame them, names I've heard have given great service but prob need a break."
I don't think there's any harm, it needs to be freshened up a bit. A lot of the team have been there for quiet awhile and given great service as you'd rightfully stated.
The only issue I'd have with blooding the u20s is that it could affect the u20 team who in my opinion have a great chance of a good run in Leinster next year. Kevin O'Brien will want all his players with him as much as he can.
I'd rather they focus on their own age group and give Leinster a good crack, it will stand to us more in the long term.
Having said that I'd still expect David Williams, Peter Clarke, Conor Gaffney, David O'Reilly, Rhian Holding and Darragh McCormack to be in around the senior panel for 2024.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 695 - 26/11/2023 21:56:33    2514655

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Joe Fortune might have no choice but to blood quite a few of the under 20s with a number of established senior players not committing to the squad for 2023-24, can hardly blame them, names I've heard have given great service but prob need a break."
i have heard some of those names too and some do need a break and have given massive service.There is one great player and i use that word sparingly who should reconsider as he has given Westmeath supporters so much pleasure over a long time but is apparently leaving for "reasons" to do with stuff that he should rise above for his own legacy to be remembered properly.
The likes of us will always remember but.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1367 - 26/11/2023 22:10:54    2514656

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Replying To jobber:  "i have heard some of those names too and some do need a break and have given massive service.There is one great player and i use that word sparingly who should reconsider as he has given Westmeath supporters so much pleasure over a long time but is apparently leaving for "reasons" to do with stuff that he should rise above for his own legacy to be remembered properly.
The likes of us will always remember but."
Who are these players?

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 695 - 27/11/2023 10:26:27    2514687

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Replying To Dheen:  "I don't think there's any harm, it needs to be freshened up a bit. A lot of the team have been there for quiet awhile and given great service as you'd rightfully stated.
The only issue I'd have with blooding the u20s is that it could affect the u20 team who in my opinion have a great chance of a good run in Leinster next year. Kevin O'Brien will want all his players with him as much as he can.
I'd rather they focus on their own age group and give Leinster a good crack, it will stand to us more in the long term.
Having said that I'd still expect David Williams, Peter Clarke, Conor Gaffney, David O'Reilly, Rhian Holding and Darragh McCormack to be in around the senior panel for 2024."
I have to agree, these lads should stay with the 20's.

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 27/11/2023 13:43:20    2514725

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Why aren't we putting in a Westmeath schools team at senior level like Offaly and Laois are doing?
CBS Mullingar are doing great work and have a lot of talent but I'm sure the addition of some of the quality players from other schools could bolster them significantly and give the county minor management an opportunity to look at players.
Westmeath u15 development team were playing down in Kilkenny last weekend. That's where we need young lads learning.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 695 - 28/11/2023 12:00:08    2514840

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Brilliant win for Colaiste Mhuire today vs Colaiste Choilm from Tullamore. Missing Jack Duncan and Jack Murtagh through injury but still won by 10 points. Kian Loughlin an excellent keeper, Darragh Smyth, Conor Leech and Conor Heffernan from na Piarsaigh, Mick Weir, Ben McNamee, Sean Hayes and Padraig Casey from Plunketts, trained by Micheal Lawlor, they could win this competition

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1394 - 28/11/2023 21:46:04    2514944

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Brilliant win for Colaiste Mhuire today vs Colaiste Choilm from Tullamore. Missing Jack Duncan and Jack Murtagh through injury but still won by 10 points. Kian Loughlin an excellent keeper, Darragh Smyth, Conor Leech and Conor Heffernan from na Piarsaigh, Mick Weir, Ben McNamee, Sean Hayes and Padraig Casey from Plunketts, trained by Micheal Lawlor, they could win this competition"
Whats even better IS the team IS backboned by clubs outside the Big 3

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1367 - 01/12/2023 07:19:52    2515138

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Replying To Dheen:  "Why aren't we putting in a Westmeath schools team at senior level like Offaly and Laois are doing?
CBS Mullingar are doing great work and have a lot of talent but I'm sure the addition of some of the quality players from other schools could bolster them significantly and give the county minor management an opportunity to look at players.
Westmeath u15 development team were playing down in Kilkenny last weekend. That's where we need young lads learning."
Thought the same recently when I saw there was a Westmeath schools team that competed ina Leinster 2nd year comp. Offaly underage hurling is flying at the moment and a lot of that is down to the work going on in schools. Theyre tapping into every source with players from Roscrea CC able to play on their combined schools team but these players are from Offaly clubs. Great win for CBS against Colaiste Choilm and well done to the Bridge who beat Kilcormac in a Junior final recently.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 156 - 01/12/2023 11:00:48    2515161

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See Kilkenny passed today to return to u14/16/18 with u18 eligible to play adult. Westmeath returning to same but not allowing u18 play adults which I think is terrible for smaller rural clubs. Any thoughts on this ?

puglerdaly (Westmeath) - Posts: 125 - 04/12/2023 23:01:51    2515538

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The Kilkenny situation is different to other counties, they really only play one code so there's never an issue with dual players, the Kilkenny football final this year was played in June, any county with dual players becomes much more difficult

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1394 - 05/12/2023 09:06:26    2515554

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I think u18s should be allowed to play the adult grade if they want and for a club like Turin, they'd have access to 3 talented young players for 2024 which could be massive for them.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 695 - 05/12/2023 09:48:55    2515563

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Replying To puglerdaly:  "See Kilkenny passed today to return to u14/16/18 with u18 eligible to play adult. Westmeath returning to same but not allowing u18 play adults which I think is terrible for smaller rural clubs. Any thoughts on this ?"
Clubs in Westmeath got to hung up on changing ages in '23 or '24 and let option 3 which obviously Kilkenny exercised go by . Coaches in clubs dictating when to change as it would effect them having a strong or not so strong panel in '23 and not looking at the bigger picture. Now that horse has bolted ,more emphasise on winning an under 15/17 this year and not on long term effects

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 231 - 05/12/2023 13:26:06    2515604

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Replying To Thechick:  "Clubs in Westmeath got to hung up on changing ages in '23 or '24 and let option 3 which obviously Kilkenny exercised go by . Coaches in clubs dictating when to change as it would effect them having a strong or not so strong panel in '23 and not looking at the bigger picture. Now that horse has bolted ,more emphasise on winning an under 15/17 this year and not on long term effects"
I think we should consider senior B and Intermediate Hurling clubs along with Intermediate and Junior football clubs be allowed to play players just out of under 17.What games are they going to get if not allowed to play.Under 19 or 20s have too few games and many of these clubs can't field at those grades anyway.If we don't reconsider we will lose a lot of players to other codes

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1367 - 05/12/2023 15:55:57    2515625

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David O'Reilly scored 1-02 from centre forward to help UL to an All Ireland colleges title this evening. A potent forward line for UL that included Adam Screeney at corner forward. Well done to O'Reilly.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 695 - 05/12/2023 21:22:27    2515666

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Replying To jobber:  "I think we should consider senior B and Intermediate Hurling clubs along with Intermediate and Junior football clubs be allowed to play players just out of under 17.What games are they going to get if not allowed to play.Under 19 or 20s have too few games and many of these clubs can't field at those grades anyway.If we don't reconsider we will lose a lot of players to other codes"
No reconsidering , ship has sailed . There was an option that allowed under 18's play with parental consent but clubs voted for the option that didn't .

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 231 - 05/12/2023 21:48:58    2515668

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