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I think what happened in the Kilkenny Wexford game is irrelevant, we had the chance to maintain our Leinster status vs Antrim today and we were poor and didn't perform, that's just it. All we needed was a draw.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 769 - 28/05/2023 19:30:51    2482288

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Replying To jobber:  "lets be honest we are not as good as Waterford but oor small panel has played 10 matches in 13 weeks against all the top teams and in the end we failed.But there are legitimate questions to be asked about the shenanigans in Wexford.The traffic jam which conveniently held the game up for 10 minutes and the alleged throw ball for Kilkennys sixth goal.We have had a week of top commentators telling us Wexford could not go down.Well???????
Where were they in 2022 for Laois nor will they appear for Westmeath."
Westmeath had their chance, at home as well and lost, Kilkenny hit 5 goals today, Wexford would put up a fighting performance to stay in Leinster and tbh, the game last week should have been Wexford 6-22 Westmeath 2-18 but for the goal chances Wexford missed and 2 late Westmeath goals.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 134 - 28/05/2023 19:44:03    2482297

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Replying To Dheen:  "I think what happened in the Kilkenny Wexford game is irrelevant, we had the chance to maintain our Leinster status vs Antrim today and we were poor and didn't perform, that's just it. All we needed was a draw."
Balanced and fair as always Dheen! I hope you win the Joe Mac next year and win the u20 Leinster if we don't.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 28/05/2023 19:46:44    2482301

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Replying To jobber:  "lets be honest we are not as good as Waterford but oor small panel has played 10 matches in 13 weeks against all the top teams and in the end we failed.But there are legitimate questions to be asked about the shenanigans in Wexford.The traffic jam which conveniently held the game up for 10 minutes and the alleged throw ball for Kilkennys sixth goal.We have had a week of top commentators telling us Wexford could not go down.Well???????
Where were they in 2022 for Laois nor will they appear for Westmeath."
Take off the tinfoil hat there lad

goreyll (Wexford) - Posts: 110 - 28/05/2023 19:50:00    2482303

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Replying To Jedobi:  "Westmeath had their chance, at home as well and lost, Kilkenny hit 5 goals today, Wexford would put up a fighting performance to stay in Leinster and tbh, the game last week should have been Wexford 6-22 Westmeath 2-18 but for the goal chances Wexford missed and 2 late Westmeath goals."
I dont deny we were beaten by a better team but have serious doubts about events elsewhere.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1445 - 28/05/2023 19:51:24    2482304

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Replying To Dheen:  "I think what happened in the Kilkenny Wexford game is irrelevant, we had the chance to maintain our Leinster status vs Antrim today and we were poor and didn't perform, that's just it. All we needed was a draw."
Exactly, we could go on about how you only won against Wexford because of the poor ref, but we didn't, we took it and today a different Wexford team showed up. Simple as that, no conspiracy theories.

goreyll (Wexford) - Posts: 110 - 28/05/2023 19:51:45    2482305

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Replying To goreyll:  "Exactly, we could go on about how you only won against Wexford because of the poor ref, but we didn't, we took it and today a different Wexford team showed up. Simple as that, no conspiracy theories."
I accept we deserved to go down after our display today and am not looking for excuses but the 2 matches were due by rule to start at the same time and didnt which gave Wexford an unfair advantage.Both games should have been held up in that situation.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1445 - 28/05/2023 19:57:16    2482310

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The terrace didn't look full either from what I seen and are all games supposed to start at 2pm on the dot, is that not breaking a rule, it giving them a 20 minute advance to know exactly what's happening in other games

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 28/05/2023 20:11:00    2482323

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Our job today was to secure our status, relying on events elsewhere is refusing to face reality, Antrim are the second weakest team in the competition and yet they completely outhurled us, the fourteen points margin was in no way flattering, their skill, speed, touch, vastly superior to ours, we need to focus on our training and conditioning, bar Darragh Egerton we lacked pace, Antrim's movement was light years ahead.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 28/05/2023 20:56:00    2482345

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Antrim's progress under Darren Gleeson has been impressive, drawing with Dublin, very competitive versus Wexford and out hurling us at home today.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 28/05/2023 21:00:38    2482348

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Look lads stop moaning about disallowed goals and matches starting and not starting on time.
The refs whistle blew before ball was in the net. The crowds were massive it was put back 10 mins. Bottom line we deserve to be relegated. We were hammered in every aspect of play today. Last week was one of those freak results although welcome it's not a true reflection of where we are.
Lets rebuild in the Joe Mc Donagh let's get a westmeath man in over the team that knows the scene. Johnny greville or Kevin O'Brien would be ideal or the two together. Both won club championships both had County 20's. Both highly respected. Keep Andrew Dermody with 20's and let's push on together. Time for new young players.. a few great servants have come to the end of their playing days, and have their work done.

Onionbagger (Westmeath) - Posts: 77 - 28/05/2023 21:01:11    2482350

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If there's ever an All Ireland for making excuses we'd be hard beaten. How did Wexford gain an advantage, they needed a result against Kilkenny if Antrim got a win, with 25 mins left in Cusack Park that was guaranteed. It's a lot more worrying that we were outplayed at home in our biggest game.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 28/05/2023 21:15:38    2482356

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "If there's ever an All Ireland for making excuses we'd be hard beaten. How did Wexford gain an advantage, they needed a result against Kilkenny if Antrim got a win, with 25 mins left in Cusack Park that was guaranteed. It's a lot more worrying that we were outplayed at home in our biggest game."
I agree with all of that. Joe Mcdonagh now is a chance to rebuild, in my opinion I think 6/7 lads need to move on.
Looking at 2024 on the underage scene, 11 of this years minor team underage again, and 10 of the u20 team underage again. Minors under the tutelage of Barry Kennedy, and Dermody with the u20s. Expecting us to be strong and very competitive in both Leinster campaigns. This is where our focus should be, and whilst in Joe Mcdonagh cup start drip feeding these lads into the panel. Without putting too much pressure on the young lads, Peter Clarke, David Williams, Darragh McCormack, David O'Reilly, Conor Gaffney and Rhian Holding aren't far off making the step up into the senior team, hopefully they'll prove that in this years club championship and for Westmeath in u20 next year.
Today we weren't good enough at all, we didn't deserve to stay up. We take our medicine and use the Joe Mcdonagh as an opportunity.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 769 - 28/05/2023 21:37:27    2482366

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Replying To jobber:  "I accept we deserved to go down after our display today and am not looking for excuses but the 2 matches were due by rule to start at the same time and didnt which gave Wexford an unfair advantage.Both games should have been held up in that situation."
If you had beaten Antrim playing at home and you were leading at half time, be no mention of all the conspiracy theories. Kilkenny would love nothing more than get Wexford relegated. You won last week, lost this week. And tbh it was Wexford losing the game last week more than Westmeath winning it.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 134 - 28/05/2023 22:38:38    2482391

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Replying To preddan:  "The terrace didn't look full either from what I seen and are all games supposed to start at 2pm on the dot, is that not breaking a rule, it giving them a 20 minute advance to know exactly what's happening in other games"
What's your problem with Wexford? Wexford had to win regardless what time the game was on at. And the last county to do Wexford any favours would be Kilkenny.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 134 - 28/05/2023 22:39:52    2482392

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Too many excuses on here. We had it in our own hands today, win and we're safe but it was a terrible performance especially in the second half. Massive win last weekend but looks like the players thought they were above Antrim & got caught badly today. Joe Fortune was a legend last week & now we have lads looking for him to go??? Players need to man up, we have an excellent coach in J Greville & if Joe steps away I think he should take it on. We're Div 1 gain in the league & while the Joe McD Cup will be tough we should be well able to bounce back.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 239 - 29/05/2023 00:19:06    2482412

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Replying To jobber:  "I accept we deserved to go down after our display today and am not looking for excuses but the 2 matches were due by rule to start at the same time and didnt which gave Wexford an unfair advantage.Both games should have been held up in that situation."
not one bit unfair

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 29/05/2023 08:32:34    2482435

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "If there's ever an All Ireland for making excuses we'd be hard beaten. How did Wexford gain an advantage, they needed a result against Kilkenny if Antrim got a win, with 25 mins left in Cusack Park that was guaranteed. It's a lot more worrying that we were outplayed at home in our biggest game."
In fairness you were missing Doyle and Clarke all this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 29/05/2023 09:33:27    2482460

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Replying To Left Full:  "Too many excuses on here. We had it in our own hands today, win and we're safe but it was a terrible performance especially in the second half. Massive win last weekend but looks like the players thought they were above Antrim & got caught badly today. Joe Fortune was a legend last week & now we have lads looking for him to go??? Players need to man up, we have an excellent coach in J Greville & if Joe steps away I think he should take it on. We're Div 1 gain in the league & while the Joe McD Cup will be tough we should be well able to bounce back."
I know I'm a little biased but I think Joe has done a good job for ye in general during his time with you.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 29/05/2023 10:24:03    2482468

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Replying To jobber:  "I accept we deserved to go down after our display today and am not looking for excuses but the 2 matches were due by rule to start at the same time and didnt which gave Wexford an unfair advantage.Both games should have been held up in that situation."
What are you on about in terms of an unfair advantage?

If the match started at 2pm or 2am Wexford still had the capability of deciding their own fate by winning to ensure their safety and the exact same for Westmeath!

Poor excuse.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1326 - 29/05/2023 10:32:06    2482473

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