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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Sure who do they amalgamate with? I know at underage they are joined with Geevagh but how sustainable is that going forward either. They're not even bordering clubs. Could be a case that they would just fold and let the likes of Shamrock Gaels, St John's, Owenmore Gaels pick through what's left of it.

As regards population there's never been more people living now in the county than in recent times and that goes for all our villages and towns. Sure rural areas might be less but built up areas are bigger. Population isn't the issue it's the number of playing population that is. If you compare percentage of lads who played football in a club area 20/30 years ago to now I'd say it could have been cut in half."
Factually incorrect I would firmly say. Most clubs (at least those that are serious about development) have a second team now which are generally teams full of young lads and no longer "junior b" footballers. Most clubs use this to fill the intended void that U19 competition was supposed to fill (but second teams are much better IMO) Most of the larger clubs (those that are serious about development and not just winning underage cups) have teams in A/B and C grade. Most clubs have large academies and huge numbers playing go games from 7-11 age bracket. So I would be very confident to say that playing numbers are much greater across the county bar the odd exception. As I said a few weeks ago, there was reason we went from 1968 to 2021 without an underage title and now we've had 3 in 3 years. And those wins were with 13-15 clubs represented proves my initial statement here regarding playing numbers.

ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 27/08/2023 13:34:34    2502442

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Replying To ShellyGael:  "Factually incorrect I would firmly say. Most clubs (at least those that are serious about development) have a second team now which are generally teams full of young lads and no longer "junior b" footballers. Most clubs use this to fill the intended void that U19 competition was supposed to fill (but second teams are much better IMO) Most of the larger clubs (those that are serious about development and not just winning underage cups) have teams in A/B and C grade. Most clubs have large academies and huge numbers playing go games from 7-11 age bracket. So I would be very confident to say that playing numbers are much greater across the county bar the odd exception. As I said a few weeks ago, there was reason we went from 1968 to 2021 without an underage title and now we've had 3 in 3 years. And those wins were with 13-15 clubs represented proves my initial statement here regarding playing numbers."
Factually incorrect about what? There were far less amalgamations at underage 20/30 years ago in fact there may not have been any. Ballisodare as a club has disappeared despite more people living in the parish than ever before. You have Calry and St John's joined up at some underage grades and they have 2/3 of the town to pick from. 2 clubs to cater for the whole of North Sligo???

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 27/08/2023 14:46:33    2502451

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Factually incorrect about what? There were far less amalgamations at underage 20/30 years ago in fact there may not have been any. Ballisodare as a club has disappeared despite more people living in the parish than ever before. You have Calry and St John's joined up at some underage grades and they have 2/3 of the town to pick from. 2 clubs to cater for the whole of North Sligo???"
Incorrect about playing numbers. Your examples are of the lamest nature. Ballisodare only operated for one decade out of the last five on their own - and they really were only operating for 5 years of that decade. Your St John's example is weak too. They are booming at underage except for u17-19.

ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 27/08/2023 15:11:11    2502455

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Replying To ShellyGael:  "Incorrect about playing numbers. Your examples are of the lamest nature. Ballisodare only operated for one decade out of the last five on their own - and they really were only operating for 5 years of that decade. Your St John's example is weak too. They are booming at underage except for u17-19."
So what about Ballymote, Geevagh, St Michael's, Bunninadden, Tubbercurry, Cloonacool, St Farnans, Easkey all who are involved in amalgamations that weren't in other years? Coolaney/Mullinabreena another team that is struggling with numbers. Having academies is great but retention beyond u15 seems to be a problem. So too St John's should be booming given the pick they have and good luck to them, they need some good news given their adult teams poor run.

Returning to football on the field matters Shamrock Gaels bow out now bar a miracle, making their league win a consolation prize when they look back on the year. Still cannot write off Tourlestrane to at least be in the final at this stage. They just seem to have that winning edge despite using much the same panel. Bunninadden won't make the semis now which will be a disappointment for them after a lean spell in Division 1 but again working from very small numbers.

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 27/08/2023 18:10:58    2502471

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "So what about Ballymote, Geevagh, St Michael's, Bunninadden, Tubbercurry, Cloonacool, St Farnans, Easkey all who are involved in amalgamations that weren't in other years? Coolaney/Mullinabreena another team that is struggling with numbers. Having academies is great but retention beyond u15 seems to be a problem. So too St John's should be booming given the pick they have and good luck to them, they need some good news given their adult teams poor run.

Returning to football on the field matters Shamrock Gaels bow out now bar a miracle, making their league win a consolation prize when they look back on the year. Still cannot write off Tourlestrane to at least be in the final at this stage. They just seem to have that winning edge despite using much the same panel. Bunninadden won't make the semis now which will be a disappointment for them after a lean spell in Division 1 but again working from very small numbers."
As I said initially per St Michaels, the issues those clubs are having is population decline but we will agree to differ. This factor will be even more evident over coming years. If you were old enough, you would know that's not that long ago since Bunninadden boys were amalgamated with Mullinabreena under St Nathys. A revived Calry St Joseph's to take the north half of the town is crucial over the coming years, if we are to leverage population growth at the other end of the spectrum.

ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 27/08/2023 18:26:48    2502472

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Shamrock Gaels are clinging by their finger tips to their dream of making the Senior Semi final. They need other clubs to do them loads of favours but after the hammering by old foes Tourlestrane the Gaels will do well to beat Drumcliffe next week. Mary's are cruising nicely and Tourlestrane without MC Intyre yesterday are once again going to be the team to beat. Next weekend when all teams will have a minimum of 2 games played will tell us more about the state of play.
In the intermediate the Bunnies are also in a spot of bother. I see no hope of them avoiding relegation playoffs. As expected Castleconnor and
Pat's also won and one win out of their final 2 games will see both of them in the semi finals . We could do with a nice weekend of weather so that we might see some bigger scores appearing

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 28/08/2023 09:27:51    2502558

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Tourlestrane showing why they are favourites. Winning with ease without having to play fantastically well
DRP will join them at the top of the group. They have too much smarts for Coolera
Mary's in cruise control and will only have to peak for a final, Maloise looked good but Farnans in bother. Big weekend of games ahead. A big moving weekend in standings

Sligobunnie (Sligo) - Posts: 5 - 28/08/2023 14:22:48    2502646

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Tourlestrane really enjoy being written off, I will not give them any more ammunition. Text book performance from them

muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 430 - 28/08/2023 15:35:39    2502661

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A hugely impressive performance from Tourlestrane yesterday, as for Shamrock Gaels poor selections in Rd1 followed by questionable tactics in Rd2 has all but ended their campaign. Drumcliffe got the job done but that's about all that could be said about it. Mary's and Molaise both getting the job done. Expected a bit of a fight back from curry after their poor performance v Calry and they did but it up to Mary's even with 14 men.

Should have a good idea of how the groups might end up after this weekend, two big games in either group with Mary's v Calry and Tourlestrane v Tubbercurry, it's a pity we can't get to see both games with the powers that be fixing the games for 3.30 and respectively.

manfromthewest (Sligo) - Posts: 32 - 28/08/2023 18:32:30    2502716

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Weekend went as expected will be Tourlestrane DRP Mary's Maloise all to be in Senior semis

Harps and Geevagh back in intermediate hunt

Sligobunnie (Sligo) - Posts: 5 - 04/09/2023 16:50:38    2503039

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Well it's all taking shape nicely now. Marys are in semis and Molaise will join them and it'll be interesting to see how their round 5 game will go to decide who faces who in the semi. Tour are still doing the business and I'd expect Drumcliffe to join them at this point. Story of senior so far has been the collapse of Shamrock Gaels. Some would say it's karma for the league. They'll not go down though. I would expect Curry or Farnans to be heading for Intermediate.

Great win for Enniscrone yesterday keeps their hopes alive yet and given Mullinabreenas less than impressive win over Shamrock Gaels B they may have a chance yet. I think it's Easkeys to lose so far though and probably looking at Johns or Shamrock Gaels for the chop.

As for the Junior did anyone see the hammering Ballymote got coming because I certainly didn't?! They may well meet again in a county final but certainly will be room for concern in the Ballymote camp before they play Cloonacool in a semi. St Michael's look doomed for the trapdoor final but should beat Tourlestrane to save their blushes from being sent to Junior B or can that happen for a clubs first team?

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 04/09/2023 17:15:44    2503044

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Group 1 all but sorted. group 2 is a bit more to play for. Drp and Coolera have faced off in the last few years in either group or semis. They drew in last years group, I expect a close game again. Drp were off it in the first half against Gaels and could have been dead and buried. Massive second half display and gaels were at a loss. Tours exp brought them through, they've dealt with coolera and everyone else in the last 8 years. Hard to see them being stopped. Marys not really being tested and could undo them later on. Their final game vs Molaise could be shadow boxing.

townietalk (Sligo) - Posts: 44 - 04/09/2023 18:52:33    2503070

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I had a poor performance with my predictions last weekend. In Junior I expected Ballymote to beat Owenmore Gaels, Molaise to beat Harps. In the intermediate I couldn't see Enniscrone winning so easily and then in the Senior championship I surely thought there would be a kick in Shamrock Gaels. I also went for Coolera to beat Tourlestrane as I
tipped them at the beginning of the competition to win the trophy outright .
Tourlestrane, Mary's and the winners of Drumcliffe v Coolera should be in knockout. Molaise will probably make up the four.
Curry,Tubber,and Shamrock Gaels all in relegation. 4th spot up in the air yet.
Intermediate a lot tighter.
3 teams in contention for 2 spots in one group.
Other group has 4 teams that are in contention for 2 spots
Bunnies are bunched and probably John's in one group
A lot of unhappy Bunnies with the umpire I'm told after the last game.
Gaels also in relegation playoffs.
Last spot still up for grabs.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 05/09/2023 16:15:08    2503189

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If we learned anything at the weekend, it's that in general, league standings don't mean much come championship! DRP who were poor in Div 2 beating the Div 1 winners. Div 3 winners beating Castleconnor handy, who beat the likes of DRP in the league. Owenmore hammering Ballymote despite getting relegated to Div 3. You would have to wonder how a second string Shamrock Gaels team can run CM to a few points. What does that say about SG?

ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 05/09/2023 19:34:10    2503214

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Does anyone know what the rule will be if 3 teams are level on points ? Are Sligo GAA using the old rule of points difference between all teams or will the new rule of it being points difference between the 3 teams involved only be implied.

Sligosportman (Sligo) - Posts: 4 - 05/09/2023 20:00:37    2503215

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Replying To Sligosportman:  "Does anyone know what the rule will be if 3 teams are level on points ? Are Sligo GAA using the old rule of points difference between all teams or will the new rule of it being points difference between the 3 teams involved only be implied."
They cant use old system, its in the rules for the new system so Sligo GAA has to follow the new rules

If they are all level on points in the implied games with the 3 teams, then it is the score difference in those games that also applies and not the overall score difference. I believe this is the ruling being objected to elsewhere

muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 430 - 06/09/2023 10:04:59    2503240

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Replying To Sligosportman:  "Does anyone know what the rule will be if 3 teams are level on points ? Are Sligo GAA using the old rule of points difference between all teams or will the new rule of it being points difference between the 3 teams involved only be implied."
Has to be the new rule as St Molaise Gaels found out in the league. It's unlikely to happen though that 3 teams will finish on the same in any group judging by current tables and fixtures for rounds 4 and 5.

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 06/09/2023 12:10:15    2503273

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Another weekend of football soon upon us.

Expecting wins for Molaise, Shamrock Gaels, Coolera and Curry this weekend all of which will confirm the runners and riders for the semi finals only a matter of which place.

In intermediate wins for Easkey, Mullinabreena, Geevagh and Harps. Have heard reports on Castleconnor and that they'll be without the services of Carrabine for rest of year. I hope he recovers well but this could be a dangerous time for them now as they are heavily reliant on him

Junior wins for Ballymote, Cloonacool, Owenmore Gaels and St Molaise Gaels so score diff to decide which of Harps or Molaise go through if this happens.

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 13/09/2023 22:26:56    2504220

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Any predictions

Sligobunnie (Sligo) - Posts: 5 - 14/09/2023 07:43:57    2504225

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For some clubs this is the last game of the round robin series. Players are beginning to drift back to soccer if they have no chance of progression to the semi finals.
In the senior championship I am going for Coolera to beat Drumcliffe. Gaels will beat Tubber but both of these teams are doomed.
If Drumcliffe win they are in Semi final along with Tourlestrane. However it gets very interesting if Coolera win as they will move to 4 points and they would expect to win their last game to get to 6 points. If Drumcliffe beat Tourlestrane in their last game then they will join Tourlestrane and Coolera on 6 points and it's back to score difference. Now where did we come across that before???
Molaise will beat Calry and I will go for Curry to take Farnans. It may go to the final round to decide who is in relegation but I think Calry will beat Farnans leaving Farnans and Curry to go down . Molaise and Mary's will be in the semi final.
In intermediate Geevagh will beat John's, and Harps should take Pat's. Bunnies are gone and John's appear to be the same way. It will take the last game to decide who goes to the semi final.
Easkey will beat Castleconnor and with no Carrabine they could move into relegation as I think Enniscrone will beat Coolaney . Should that happen Coolaney will be on same points as Enniscrone but a far superior score difference. Enniscrone could make that up in the last game as it's against the Gaels. It's probably as good a format for a championship as anywhere in the country but the standard so far is mediocre. If you are a poor team there's no hiding place.
In junior Molaise will beat Michaels and hope that Cloonacool beat Harps which I think will happen this ensuring that Molaise and Cloonacool make the semi final. Ballymote will beat Tourlestrane and Owenmore Gaels will take Mary's.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 14/09/2023 14:04:06    2504262

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