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Should be a decent crowd in Tuam for the Corofin vs Salthill and Mountbellew vs Claregalway games.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 525 - 19/07/2023 10:32:30    2495560

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Replying To galway19:  "Should be a decent crowd in Tuam for the Corofin vs Salthill and Mountbellew vs Claregalway games."
No Ian Burke for Corofin and no Peter Cooke for Moycullen I am hearing

LetsPlayBall (Galway) - Posts: 50 - 20/07/2023 08:05:49    2495743

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Replying To LetsPlayBall:  "No Ian Burke for Corofin and no Peter Cooke for Moycullen I am hearing"
Whatever about Peter Cooke , I would hope that Moycullen rest Sean Kelly for group stages. Moycullen will still have enough to get out of Group. But Sean has gone from club to college to county to US with no break. He is so important to Galway set up and he needs some class of a break. I dont expect Moycullen not to use them a the business end of club.
Hope to see Cooke back with Galway in 2024 too as he really improved over the course of 2023 and became a key player for us at the end.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 796 - 20/07/2023 10:23:22    2495754

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Whatever about Peter Cooke , I would hope that Moycullen rest Sean Kelly for group stages. Moycullen will still have enough to get out of Group. But Sean has gone from club to college to county to US with no break. He is so important to Galway set up and he needs some class of a break. I dont expect Moycullen not to use them a the business end of club.
Hope to see Cooke back with Galway in 2024 too as he really improved over the course of 2023 and became a key player for us at the end."
I agree re Cooke to a large degree but it has to be said also that he was responsible for some sloppy turnovers that ultimately cost Galway the Armagh and Mayo games.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 20/07/2023 10:56:52    2495767

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To have any chance of winning an AI a team needs at least a good proportion of the 5 "S"s i.e. Size, Strength, Speed, Stamina and Skill. Re Galway hurlers and footballers whatever about Skill which the players undoubtedly have, I feel most of them are inadequate in the other 4. Not sure if this is just down to S&C but these need to be improved dramatically for the 2024 season no doubt.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 20/07/2023 10:57:56    2495768

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Best of luck to Niamh Fahey today. COYGIG

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1801 - 20/07/2023 11:14:05    2495770

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Whatever about Peter Cooke , I would hope that Moycullen rest Sean Kelly for group stages. Moycullen will still have enough to get out of Group. But Sean has gone from club to college to county to US with no break. He is so important to Galway set up and he needs some class of a break. I dont expect Moycullen not to use them a the business end of club.
Hope to see Cooke back with Galway in 2024 too as he really improved over the course of 2023 and became a key player for us at the end."
I'm sure Sean is having a decent break out in America, has he played any games out there?

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 220 - 20/07/2023 11:35:44    2495777

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Replying To tommy k:  "I agree re Cooke to a large degree but it has to be said also that he was responsible for some sloppy turnovers that ultimately cost Galway the Armagh and Mayo games."
No questioning the turnovers. But he still had a better year than SW. And both are key/vital players for us.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 796 - 20/07/2023 11:57:19    2495781

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Replying To anotheralias:  "No questioning the turnovers. But he still had a better year than SW. And both are key/vital players for us."
A lot of the squad will be feeling very good about themselves, when you set the bar at did he have 'a better year than SW'.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3308 - 20/07/2023 12:09:52    2495783

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Today is my first day on this forum since the Mayo match. I just couldn't face it!

We have such a talented squad, their S&C levels are super. They have natural size, pace, power and football ability.

I think what killed us this year, as many posters pointed out, is our forward play. It became too prescribed, predictable, slow. This is in contrast to year 1 under PJ when we were entirely the other way. There is a balance we need to find.

Even in the AI final last year we were depending on points from positions SW probably shouldn't be shooting from. We need Shane breaking lines again and less shooting from miles out. Run at them through the middle.

The game against Tyrone really showed our limitations when we were against 13. Don't get me wrong you pay the system for x% of time but the team needs to be able to think on their feet and inject the directness and pace into games on the hoof. Sean Kelly has a great talent for knowing when to do this.

There is not a huge amount wrong and we are not too far away and that's what makes it incredible frustrating

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1801 - 20/07/2023 12:14:17    2495784

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Today is my first day on this forum since the Mayo match. I just couldn't face it!

We have such a talented squad, their S&C levels are super. They have natural size, pace, power and football ability.

I think what killed us this year, as many posters pointed out, is our forward play. It became too prescribed, predictable, slow. This is in contrast to year 1 under PJ when we were entirely the other way. There is a balance we need to find.

Even in the AI final last year we were depending on points from positions SW probably shouldn't be shooting from. We need Shane breaking lines again and less shooting from miles out. Run at them through the middle.

The game against Tyrone really showed our limitations when we were against 13. Don't get me wrong you pay the system for x% of time but the team needs to be able to think on their feet and inject the directness and pace into games on the hoof. Sean Kelly has a great talent for knowing when to do this.

There is not a huge amount wrong and we are not too far away and that's what makes it incredible frustrating"
The problem is that many Galway players in general do not have enough pace to "run at them through the middle". Cooke, Conroy, Tierney etc. are very good players overall but they are not blessed with natural pace and that is one of the vital characteristics in the way the game is played currently. Other players with pace such as Walsh, Sweeney and Burke do not always have the required power to hold onto the ball if a physical tackle is made so its a mixture of inadequate pace and power depending on the players involved. The only players that I see with the required pace and power on the Galway team are Sean Kelly and Damien Comer. Comer is injured more often than not and Kelly was injured towards the end of the Armagh game that continued into the Mayo game.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 20/07/2023 14:01:09    2495815

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I think it's amazing when team looses it's always about S/C when the dubs were winning 6 in a row I never heard anyone on about there strength and conditioning obviously they are fine tuned athletes but the big difference in my opinion in top teams and rest is decision making with ball without ball more often than not they do the right things most if not all the times no running into tackles taking pot shots giving up kickouts dubs never do that let's be honest here the top teams have also got a quality goal keeper who can kick short and long with accuracy and speed , Galway don't have that and until they do they will fall short every year in my opinion,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 762 - 20/07/2023 15:21:37    2495836

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Replying To Kickitout:  "I think it's amazing when team looses it's always about S/C when the dubs were winning 6 in a row I never heard anyone on about there strength and conditioning obviously they are fine tuned athletes but the big difference in my opinion in top teams and rest is decision making with ball without ball more often than not they do the right things most if not all the times no running into tackles taking pot shots giving up kickouts dubs never do that let's be honest here the top teams have also got a quality goal keeper who can kick short and long with accuracy and speed , Galway don't have that and until they do they will fall short every year in my opinion,,"
That is pure and unadulterated bulls**t Kickitout. If all you can do is throw brickbats and lay the blame at the door of our excellent goalkeeper Connor Gleeson, then it's quite clear you don't have much insight at all into the way the game is currently played. We have a team fully capable with a small bit of luck of winning the All Ireland. We demonstrated this in 2022. Injuries unfortunately caught up with us this year. Why don't you instead criticise Cluxton, the infallible, for fumbling a dropping ball against Monaghan almost into his own net. If Gleeson did that the knockers would have a field day. And in case of any doubt, I have no connection whatever with Dunmore, contrary to the assumptions made by some posters to this forum. It is an amateur game. Players are entitled to respect and fair play. If you have nothing constructive to say please say nothing at all. Gaillimh Abû.

FatLadySinging (Galway) - Posts: 77 - 20/07/2023 17:25:00    2495861

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Replying To Kickitout:  "I think it's amazing when team looses it's always about S/C when the dubs were winning 6 in a row I never heard anyone on about there strength and conditioning obviously they are fine tuned athletes but the big difference in my opinion in top teams and rest is decision making with ball without ball more often than not they do the right things most if not all the times no running into tackles taking pot shots giving up kickouts dubs never do that let's be honest here the top teams have also got a quality goal keeper who can kick short and long with accuracy and speed , Galway don't have that and until they do they will fall short every year in my opinion,,"
Yes decision making and not giving away stupid turnovers is a must but pace and power to break tackles / take scores is also required along with quick kickouts as you say.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 20/07/2023 17:28:30    2495863

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Replying To FatLadySinging:  "That is pure and unadulterated bulls**t Kickitout. If all you can do is throw brickbats and lay the blame at the door of our excellent goalkeeper Connor Gleeson, then it's quite clear you don't have much insight at all into the way the game is currently played. We have a team fully capable with a small bit of luck of winning the All Ireland. We demonstrated this in 2022. Injuries unfortunately caught up with us this year. Why don't you instead criticise Cluxton, the infallible, for fumbling a dropping ball against Monaghan almost into his own net. If Gleeson did that the knockers would have a field day. And in case of any doubt, I have no connection whatever with Dunmore, contrary to the assumptions made by some posters to this forum. It is an amateur game. Players are entitled to respect and fair play. If you have nothing constructive to say please say nothing at all. Gaillimh Abû."
You are definitely entitled to ur opinion as i was giving mine in my opinion at present Galway don't have a goal keeper of the standard of of any of 4 teams who played last weekend but agsin only my opinion,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 762 - 20/07/2023 19:02:05    2495883

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Replying To Kickitout:  "I think it's amazing when team looses it's always about S/C when the dubs were winning 6 in a row I never heard anyone on about there strength and conditioning obviously they are fine tuned athletes but the big difference in my opinion in top teams and rest is decision making with ball without ball more often than not they do the right things most if not all the times no running into tackles taking pot shots giving up kickouts dubs never do that let's be honest here the top teams have also got a quality goal keeper who can kick short and long with accuracy and speed , Galway don't have that and until they do they will fall short every year in my opinion,,"
Same rubbish on here all the time blame connor gleeson. No word of forwards who can't score, no word of a reliable free taker. To try blame our goalie for losing all matches is such rubbish

Dunmore10 (Galway) - Posts: 94 - 21/07/2023 09:31:53    2495923

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Replying To LetsPlayBall:  "Opening Round of Club Fixtures Released:

Friday 28th of July -

G1: Moycullen V An Spideal (Pearse Stadium, 7:30pm)

G3: St Michaels V Dunmore (Tuam Stadium, 7:30pm)

Saturday 29th of July -

G1: Annaghdown V St James's (Kenny Park, 2:30pm)

G2: Oughterard V Caherlistrane (Kenny Park, 4:15pm)

G1: Milltown V Leitir Mor (Pearse Stadium, 3:45pm)

G2: Killannin V Barna (Pearse Stadium, 5:30pm)

G2: Salthill V Corofin (Tuam Stadium, 4:15pm)

G3: Claregalway V Mountbellew (Tuam Stadium, 6:00pm)

G3: Tuam Stars receiving the bye in the first round."
My predictions
Moycullen to beat Spiddal
Michael's to beat Dunmore
Annaghdown and James' draw
Caherlistrane to beat Oughterard
Milltown to beat Leitir Mor
Barna to beat Killannin
Salthill to beat Corofin
MM to beat Claregalway

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 21/07/2023 10:14:52    2495931

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "A lot of the squad will be feeling very good about themselves, when you set the bar at did he have 'a better year than SW'."
I agree . But the point I was trying to make was just because a player had a poor game ( or a poor portion of a game) doesn't mean they are not good players who add huge value to our side. Nobody is writing SW off. And despite those who have slated him here for his 2023 performances, nobody in their right mind is suggesting that we dont need him for 2024.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 796 - 21/07/2023 11:04:24    2495949

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Replying To smallfrank:  "My predictions
Moycullen to beat Spiddal
Michael's to beat Dunmore
Annaghdown and James' draw
Caherlistrane to beat Oughterard
Milltown to beat Leitir Mor
Barna to beat Killannin
Salthill to beat Corofin
MM to beat Claregalway"
Your writing of Corofin already? I would not be surprised this is the year they bounce back?

LetsPlayBall (Galway) - Posts: 50 - 21/07/2023 11:16:10    2495954

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Replying To LetsPlayBall:  "Your writing of Corofin already? I would not be surprised this is the year they bounce back?"
I wouldn't be too confident in Salthill at the moment. They were missing their county lads for the league final but they only managed to score 0-4 in 60+mins against Barna. They have a squad capable of beating Corofin or Moycullen on their day with Culhane, Finnerty, Sweeney, Maher, O'Flaherty, Hunt etc but they can blow very hot and cold.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 525 - 21/07/2023 12:02:05    2495968

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