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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Dessie very unfortunate the way the game has evolved. 15, 20 years ago would've have been the prototype intercounty corner forward. There can be no doubt of his footballing ability and score taking as well as his brain. He might prove us all wrong yet and that would be great but the modern game just isn't designed for players like Dessie anymore. You'll still mind some exceptions in Andy Moran a few years ago and even Ian Burke but it's became increasingly harder to make it as that type of forward, such a pity, it's great to watch and some footballer."
I'd agree, but I think it's a case of it not being suited to too many players of his type in a team. There's room for the likes of Dessie in any team, but fewer spots for his type of player at intercounty level, i.e. primary scorers.
That's his main job for Moycullen. He works extremely hard too of course, but his job is mainly to finish moves and link up attacks.
Each intercounty team seems to play with only 2 out and out scoring forwards now, even the likes of Kerry.
When we think back to '98, Joyce, Finnegan and Savage were inside forwards expected to stay in and do most of the scoring. The half forward line was also less defensive than it is today. They worked hard for sure and of course we had the likes of Donnellan who could cover acres of ground, but they were forwards primarily.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1618 - 14/11/2022 15:36:21    2447543

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What province would Moycullen come up against if they win connacht

tribesman123 (Galway) - Posts: 36 - 14/11/2022 16:03:32    2447552

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Replying To tribesman123:  "What province would Moycullen come up against if they win connacht"
Ulster and both Glen and Kilcoo look strong.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 753 - 14/11/2022 16:24:56    2447556

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Replying To tribesman123:  "What province would Moycullen come up against if they win connacht"
I think it's Ulster this year.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1618 - 14/11/2022 16:25:47    2447557

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Has history not taught us to not underestimate the Rossies. Hope the team haven't looked beyond their next match. Whoever wins ulster/leinster/munster should not matter at all to the team right now. All eyes on Strokestown

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1634 - 14/11/2022 20:44:43    2447595

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Of course there is a place for the likes of Dessie Conneely and even Tomo Culhane in the Galway forward line. It was shown up in the AI Final that there was a lack of natural scoring forwards in that Galway team this year when it mattered most and I think most people here know who they were without calling them out. Yes they are small players but they are strong and fast with low centres of gravity and most importantly they know where the posts are.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2799 - 15/11/2022 10:01:57    2447609

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Problem is in clubs like that, it's still a club ran by families and people there for generations and hurling is all they care about, football is as foreign a sport as cricket to them. A lot of the interest is brought into the parish by families moving in from football areas. We're not a dual county at all, must have one of the lowest number of dual players of any county, especially at senior level. Even Moycullen, the only club at senior level with both is nearly like two different clubs, very little to no crossover and they even use two different crests and jerseys. We take our club games very serious in galway and see the other sport coming in as a distraction and hindrance to other. Even when football was starting to get to a good level in Athenry with them getting to intermediate final and the hurlers struggling in senior, a lot of blame was (unfairly) put on football coming into the club and put a lot of obstacles in the way to develop it more in the club. Now their back down Junior and less of a distraction to the hurling. South Galway and East Galway are areas we're football just won't take off, not for a few generations anyway. Even when they tried to set up a South Galway football team, they couldn't field a team for a finish even with 5/6 clubs joined together. Probably not great to hear but it's reality. Also it's expensive run just one code at a good level in these spots. Even driving through Ardrahan, Peterswell, Beagh, Gort, Craughwell, Killimor, Killimordaly, Portumna etc with galway in a senior all Ireland football final, you wouldn't guess it to look with not much flags or support, they'll watch it or maybe go but they wouldn't really care. I don't think it would be as bad the other way round, I found the football fans from North and West galway would get behind the hurlers a bit more (maybe that was down to galway football disappearing from big days for so long) A lot of hurling only people also just don't really like football too."
St Colman's (Gort and the surrounding area) won the Connacht junior club championship in 2007-2008, and were narrowly beaten by the eventual champions in the All-Ireland semi-final. Gary O'Donnell, Rory Gantley and Andy Coen played on that team - all excellent footballers. It's a pity that their progress was stifled locally, by people who say their success as a threat to hurling.
Given their large population base, there's no reason why clubs like Craughwell, Athenry, Oranmore and Clarinbridge shouldn't be strong dual clubs - it would raise the profile of the GAA generally in these areas.

football first (None) - Posts: 1255 - 15/11/2022 10:57:17    2447616

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Replying To football first:  "St Colman's (Gort and the surrounding area) won the Connacht junior club championship in 2007-2008, and were narrowly beaten by the eventual champions in the All-Ireland semi-final. Gary O'Donnell, Rory Gantley and Andy Coen played on that team - all excellent footballers. It's a pity that their progress was stifled locally, by people who say their success as a threat to hurling.
Given their large population base, there's no reason why clubs like Craughwell, Athenry, Oranmore and Clarinbridge shouldn't be strong dual clubs - it would raise the profile of the GAA generally in these areas."
Oranmore-Maree are offering and supporting both codes and given their recent results, are clearly doing something right at underage in both codes. Other clubs are actively and coldly stifling football and it has upset huge numbers of families who volunteer their time and are asked to put their hands in their pockets as much as the hurling-only hyper zealots. I wrote a fairly comprehensive post on it, without getting personal or overly negative but it didn't get posted here on this forum. Is the moderator from some of those clubs I wonder?!!

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 733 - 15/11/2022 11:14:01    2447621

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Is there dream team awards this year for the Galway Senior and Intermediate championships?
It had been done every year but they didnt do it last year for some reason??

Anyone want to have a go at what the dream team 15 would be for both senior and intermediate this year?

LetsPlayBall (Galway) - Posts: 14 - 15/11/2022 14:30:46    2447659

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Dessie very unfortunate the way the game has evolved. 15, 20 years ago would've have been the prototype intercounty corner forward. There can be no doubt of his footballing ability and score taking as well as his brain. He might prove us all wrong yet and that would be great but the modern game just isn't designed for players like Dessie anymore. You'll still mind some exceptions in Andy Moran a few years ago and even Ian Burke but it's became increasingly harder to make it as that type of forward, such a pity, it's great to watch and some footballer."
He's most unfortunate that he's part of one of the best forward lines in the country, he's competing with Walsh, Comer and now Finnerty who came of age last year.

Dessie would start for every other county apart from Dublin & Kerry too, Ian Burke & Andy Moran will give Dessie hope he can cut it at this level. Andy Moran in particular gives him great hope as he was nearly 34 when he was named player of the year and was in his late 20's before he really found his feet a the top level so Dessie has time, he's had a good year of conditioning behind him now as 2020 & 21 were covid hit years.

I expect him to kick on again in 2023 and play a bigger role but he'll have competition from Culhane and Ian Burke if he returns. These are great problems for Joyce to have.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 179 - 15/11/2022 14:38:29    2447663

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Replying To LetsPlayBall:  "Is there dream team awards this year for the Galway Senior and Intermediate championships?
It had been done every year but they didnt do it last year for some reason??

Anyone want to have a go at what the dream team 15 would be for both senior and intermediate this year?"
Bernard Power
David Wynne
Billy Mannion
Colin Murray
Dylan Wall
John Daly
Dylan Mchugh
Sean Kelly
Peter Cooke
Tomo Culhane
Rob Finnerty
Cormac McWalter
Ian Burke
Dessie Conneely
Barry McHugh

PierreBezuhov (UK) - Posts: 160 - 15/11/2022 15:00:33    2447672

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Replying To PierreBezuhov:  "Bernard Power
David Wynne
Billy Mannion
Colin Murray
Dylan Wall
John Daly
Dylan Mchugh
Sean Kelly
Peter Cooke
Tomo Culhane
Rob Finnerty
Cormac McWalter
Ian Burke
Dessie Conneely
Barry McHugh"
As much as I love our own lads, I'd have Cathal Sweeney ahead of Dylan McHugh, and I'd have Conor Campbell at full back. Otherwise, you're fairly spot on.

crankyincorofin (Galway) - Posts: 10 - 16/11/2022 07:38:58    2447714

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Replying To crankyincorofin:  "As much as I love our own lads, I'd have Cathal Sweeney ahead of Dylan McHugh, and I'd have Conor Campbell at full back. Otherwise, you're fairly spot on."
Honestly no Annaghdown man and they were a referee decision away from a county Final.
Also Sweeney should be on it and Lavelle had a great year.

1. Ruairi Lavelle, Salthill
2. David Wynne Moycullen
3. Billy Mannion, Mountbellow
4. Eoin Kelly, Moycullen
5. Cathal Sweeney. Salthill
6. John Daly, Mountbellow
7. Sean Kelly, Moycullen
8. Diarmuid Kilcommins Annaghdown
9. Peter Cooke, Moycullen
10. Tomo Culhane, Salthill
11. Paddy Kelly Mountbellow
12. Rob Finnerty, Salthill
13. Damien Comer, Annaghdown
14. Dessie Conneely Moycullen,
15. Barry McHugh, Mountbellow

LottoPlus (Kilkenny) - Posts: 12 - 16/11/2022 14:08:47    2447776

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Replying To LottoPlus:  "Honestly no Annaghdown man and they were a referee decision away from a county Final.
Also Sweeney should be on it and Lavelle had a great year.

1. Ruairi Lavelle, Salthill
2. David Wynne Moycullen
3. Billy Mannion, Mountbellow
4. Eoin Kelly, Moycullen
5. Cathal Sweeney. Salthill
6. John Daly, Mountbellow
7. Sean Kelly, Moycullen
8. Diarmuid Kilcommins Annaghdown
9. Peter Cooke, Moycullen
10. Tomo Culhane, Salthill
11. Paddy Kelly Mountbellow
12. Rob Finnerty, Salthill
13. Damien Comer, Annaghdown
14. Dessie Conneely Moycullen,
15. Barry McHugh, Mountbellow"
No Corofin player? They were only narrowly beaten in a couple of games - surely Dylan Wall, Dylan McHugh or Ian Burke deserve inclusion.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2799 - 16/11/2022 15:41:19    2447802

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Replying To LottoPlus:  "Honestly no Annaghdown man and they were a referee decision away from a county Final.
Also Sweeney should be on it and Lavelle had a great year.

1. Ruairi Lavelle, Salthill
2. David Wynne Moycullen
3. Billy Mannion, Mountbellow
4. Eoin Kelly, Moycullen
5. Cathal Sweeney. Salthill
6. John Daly, Mountbellow
7. Sean Kelly, Moycullen
8. Diarmuid Kilcommins Annaghdown
9. Peter Cooke, Moycullen
10. Tomo Culhane, Salthill
11. Paddy Kelly Mountbellow
12. Rob Finnerty, Salthill
13. Damien Comer, Annaghdown
14. Dessie Conneely Moycullen,
15. Barry McHugh, Mountbellow"
Diarmuid Kilcommins midfield and not John Maher? If you are making a case for an Annaghdown man apart from Comer, it has got to be Daragh Meehan

GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 16/11/2022 17:33:32    2447813

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I would find it nearly impossible to pick a 15.
I was at more games this year than ever and if you take even the HB line, Wynne, Eoghan Kelly, John Daly, Cathal Sweeney, Dylan McHugh were all excellent and could be on anyones list

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 140 - 16/11/2022 18:53:31    2447826

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Replying To smallfrank:  "I would find it nearly impossible to pick a 15.
I was at more games this year than ever and if you take even the HB line, Wynne, Eoghan Kelly, John Daly, Cathal Sweeney, Dylan McHugh were all excellent and could be on anyones list"
Very hard to narrow it down to 15, and obviously lads will be missing. But from watching as many group games as possible, and all the knockouts, I would go for:

1. Lavelle

2. Conor Campbell 3. Sean Kelly 4. Daragh Meehan

5. Cathal Sweeney 6. John Daly 7. Billy Mannion

8. Peter Cooke 9. John Maher

10. Tomo 11. Rob Finnerty 12. Owen Gallagher

13. Ian Burke 14. Dessie 15. Barry McHugh

The honourable mentions would be Eoghan Kelly, Paul Kelly, Damien Comer, Patrick Kelly, Dylan McHugh and Conor Flaherty.

GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 17/11/2022 09:42:14    2447867

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Replying To GalwaysFinest:  "Very hard to narrow it down to 15, and obviously lads will be missing. But from watching as many group games as possible, and all the knockouts, I would go for:

1. Lavelle

2. Conor Campbell 3. Sean Kelly 4. Daragh Meehan

5. Cathal Sweeney 6. John Daly 7. Billy Mannion

8. Peter Cooke 9. John Maher

10. Tomo 11. Rob Finnerty 12. Owen Gallagher

13. Ian Burke 14. Dessie 15. Barry McHugh

The honourable mentions would be Eoghan Kelly, Paul Kelly, Damien Comer, Patrick Kelly, Dylan McHugh and Conor Flaherty."
Hard to argue with a lot there..
The goalkeeper situation for Galway is crucial as every goalkeeper made big errors in Club championship and as seen last year its an area of most concern.
Great to hear Ian Burke will be back in January for Galway..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 795 - 17/11/2022 13:12:27    2447916

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Replying To Belclare:  "Hard to argue with a lot there..
The goalkeeper situation for Galway is crucial as every goalkeeper made big errors in Club championship and as seen last year its an area of most concern.
Great to hear Ian Burke will be back in January for Galway.."
Is this true?

Jellybaby (Dublin) - Posts: 301 - 17/11/2022 14:21:14    2447927

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Replying To Belclare:  "Hard to argue with a lot there..
The goalkeeper situation for Galway is crucial as every goalkeeper made big errors in Club championship and as seen last year its an area of most concern.
Great to hear Ian Burke will be back in January for Galway.."
Ian Burke back? Any word of others?

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1081 - 17/11/2022 14:23:07    2447928

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