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Of course it's a pity, there are few enough teams competing in the all ireland series that if any of them aren't competitive it's a pity. The best championships are when they are numerous teams at the same high level.
mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 27/07/2021 11:18:33 2364622 Link 0 |
talking of holes, you are talking out of one. And yes he has done it numerous times as every great player has.
mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 27/07/2021 11:32:23 2364628 Link 1 |
Cork were poor in late 1950's and early 1960's. Between 1954 to 1966 no all Ireland's won. The dominant team was undoubtedly Tipperary, a county where emigration was a big factor. Cork shipped repeated big losses against them in Munster finals '64 and '65 . We won all Ireland in '66 and gained revenge against Tipp in '69 . The glory years for Cork were 1970's, we dominated Munster and achieved several all Ireland wins, when the city economically was in depression due to closure of Ford's and Dunlop's. Limerick won in '73, were always competitive, but up to a few years ago, always fell a bit short!
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 27/07/2021 11:49:56 2364637 Link 0 |
We could be in for a period of Limerick dominance not seen since Mick Mackey and his 1930's team. Although well before my time,heard many stories on his exploits. The pundits and bookies have Limerick as certain winners this year.. . Bookies are rarely wrong!
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 27/07/2021 12:17:32 2364650 Link 0 |
There needs to be some serious soul searching in Galway, as yet again they have flattered to deceive, and this year's Championship has been one of the most disappointing in years after an extremely promising league. I feel sorry for Shane O'Neill as he was let down badly my a lot of big name players, although questions can most definitely be asked of his tactics and team selections. You do wonder with Galway as in would a Brian Cody or John Kiely type figure have more success, both managers who have no problem dropping or whipping off underperforming players, which is not something you would ever have associated with Galway managers. There is little or no doubt that Galway underachieve at senior level, and with the structures and talent that they have, this should not be the case. No team has a god given right to win the All Ireland as the Big 3 are now finding out, but there is also no doubt that Galway should be a lot more successful at Senior level than they are. Sadly from a Galway perspective the county board will probably do sweet FA as usual, SON will probably get the blame and be shown the door, but bar a new manager, nothing will change!!
gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 170 - 27/07/2021 12:56:48 2364671 Link 0 |
Am confused about this big 3 talk! Cork haven't contested an all Ireland since 2006, and have already been written off in the local Cork newspapers. The common refrain is they don't score enough points.. hunting for goals is a fool's errand blah blah blah! As regards Galway, disappointed hugely this year and Canning's impending retirement will be a further blow.
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 27/07/2021 14:45:31 2364736 Link 0 |
Waterford are appealing the suspension of Conor Gleeson on a technicality and they are right to do so. He deserved that card but the ref was trying to be too cute. He seemly consulted an umpire on leaving the field. Why did he not complete the sending off then ? He obviously had made up his mind before the break was over. So a red, 14 men but another penalty by springing it on Waterford. Red card dismissal during a game gives the team sometime to organize. Like I said before he hi-lighted later what he was about when blowing back for a free when Barron was in the clear heading for goal while ignoring a strike with the stick in the rucus. I have defend referees all the time but his job is not to make a game of it if that was his intent. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2642 - 27/07/2021 14:49:20 2364737 Link 0 |
Jamie Barron was reported as having the flu that week and as your replacement list shows he was taken off after 64 minutes. He definitely was not the man that day that he was in the preceding game in '17, when he was absolutely flying in extra time V KK or V Galway last Sunday. There is no way a fully fit Jamie Barron would have been taken off. BTW, Peter Kelly was mom in '93, when Galway actually lost- I thought you would know that, you being a Galwegian and all that Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4285 - 27/07/2021 14:56:42 2364741 Link 0 |
Take heart Katser... you still have the Galway races, not to mention busking on the strand or Eyre Square. Lots of therapy and fresh air out there to ease the pain and while away the summer. Sweet dreams ... Next Year! Take it from someone who is "not from a hurling county". PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1337 - 27/07/2021 14:58:50 2364743 Link 0 |
PAT 'What oft was said, but ne'er so well expressed'. You just hit all the right notes there.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4285 - 27/07/2021 15:04:21 2364745 Link 0 |
Welcome comments and well put again Oldtourman and will just add that along with: "you will always, as always, have Cork, KK and Tipp to contend with", times are a -changin and we might well add Clare and Waterford to the mix and maybe Dublin and Wexford for good measure with a few tweaks and a rub of the green. One more time in the meantime: Come On Ye Boys In Green PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1337 - 27/07/2021 15:09:59 2364749 Link 0 |
And if he tires of those pursuits he could always bring the stocks down to Limerick......
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11472 - 27/07/2021 15:34:35 2364760 Link 0 |
There is a lot of white noise about Limerick and JP's sponsorship. Resources and the ability to pay for them is a help. JP cannot go out and play the game between the lines. At the end of the day the players are amateurs and need their jobs to survive. On top of that when finished they do not walk away with an nest egg and any specialized medical help they were getting is gone. You can be sure they carry lots of injuries into retirement. Limerick with volunteers has done the work over the years to get them to where they are. Kilkenny success has been done with modest sponsorship despite they ignoring football. I would like to see all counties have access to equal resources but you need the commitment, a plan, workhorses and above the players to execute. Some people are always looking for negative connotations to explain away success. I guess it is in our genes. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2642 - 27/07/2021 16:00:22 2364773 Link 1 |
Mick Cashman, the former Cork goalkeeper, finished up in crutches as a result of leg injuries sustained from a lifetime of hurling! The sacrifices put out by players cannot be underestimated, yet they endure ridicule and patronizing from an unforgiving public!
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 27/07/2021 16:36:00 2364788 Link 1 |
Is it a coincidence that a lot of hurling managers are schoolteachers? Limerick manager Kiely and Brian Cody spring to mind as well as ex Cork manager Canon O' Brien. I guess they instill obedience and discipline! Cody has to be the best and most innovative manager ever! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 27/07/2021 16:53:37 2364793 Link 0 |
Exactly.. The reason behind our success is actually fairly simple., after the absolute hammering we got in the all Ireland semi final in 2009, the writing was on the wall..So a serious effort was made by concerned GAA people to identify, train and keep the most talented youngsters in the county through an academy system. The county board at the time had the humility to listen to what was suggested as the way forward and keep to the admin side of things.. Egos were not allowed get in the way. Having UL as a base was a God send as its a top venue but the idea that success is because JP suddenly starting pumping in money is nonsense.. This isn't premier league soccer where you can just buy a player. Kyle Hayes comes from a club that was junior for over 70 years, had to amalgamate with another parish to keep going and only recently won promotion from intermediate. Point is guys like him were identified and developed.. Kiely had the attributes needed to gel things together but huge work had gone in for years before he took over... We're very fortunate in Limerick at the moment and appreciate every second of it because we know it won't last.. We were down for long enough to know what it's like. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1053 - 27/07/2021 17:01:00 2364799 Link 0 |
canuck money helps but hard work is the name of the game here in limerick with coaching for the last 10-12 years.....limerick minors are playing cork in the munster semi final ( and up against it from what im hearing) if they win tonight will be contesting their 8th munster minor final in 9 years and winning 4 ......of the present senior team 10 have came from those minor teams plus 3 or 4 subs.
munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1089 - 27/07/2021 17:13:29 2364802 Link 0 |
Think the holidays help too! Derek McGrath is a teacher also. Along with alot of current intercounty players!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11472 - 27/07/2021 17:27:15 2364806 Link 0 |
I'd just like a raise a point on the GAA "promoting Hurling". Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1893 - 27/07/2021 17:49:12 2364819 Link 1 |
Enjoy it while it last and there will always be negativity. Ask Kilkenny or Dublin. Not a huge cats fan but always admire how they go about their business. They play tough and take it tough. I honestly cannot say certainly in the past, they try to get a player off. This playing on the edge is a joke. The rules are there and it is not players who decide how they are applied. Limerick could have had a couple of players red carded the last day but you know what, there are probable incidents in most games that is the case. The only crib I have is inconsistency. Limerick are masters at present and good luck to them if we can't get across the line.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2642 - 27/07/2021 18:16:00 2364827 Link 0 |