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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "Gaa badly caught on the hop here...two days after government announcement and still no statement from Croke Park. Is Varadkar running the GAA now?"
Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of NPHET in an interview with the Irish Times today pours cold water on Varadkars GAA soundbite from Friday night.

And contact sport on August 10th?

Contact sports we would see as the last ones to come on stream.

The club GAA championship could happen?

Potentially. Maybe, like golf, they don't share the dressing room. They come and warm-up, play the game and then shower at home.

In small club championships you could probably have a few hundred people at the game, socially distancing. But you probably cannot bring a team or bus load of supporters from Dublin down to that county.

A county championship could take place in certain circumstances if you are creative. I do not have all the answers to this situation but it is like all the businesses trying to get back to work.

What the GAA, IRFU and FAI should be thinking about is a return. It is not going to be a flick of the switch. There has to be some creative thinking what a phased return looks like.

It could look like, rocking up, playing the game and not hanging around in large numbers. You allow that to happen and wait a month and if you haven't had a massive outbreak in your team or club or community then you say 'Ok, this is fine.' Then you look at the next step . . .

So the GAA are doing as they should and saying nothing for now because nobody knows...as annoying as it is we all want answers.

I do think however club teams will try to train in small groups soon and this needs to be addressed

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10153 - 03/05/2020 13:02:33    2277359

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of NPHET in an interview with the Irish Times today pours cold water on Varadkars GAA soundbite from Friday night.

And contact sport on August 10th?

Contact sports we would see as the last ones to come on stream.

The club GAA championship could happen?

Potentially. Maybe, like golf, they don't share the dressing room. They come and warm-up, play the game and then shower at home.

In small club championships you could probably have a few hundred people at the game, socially distancing. But you probably cannot bring a team or bus load of supporters from Dublin down to that county.

A county championship could take place in certain circumstances if you are creative. I do not have all the answers to this situation but it is like all the businesses trying to get back to work.

What the GAA, IRFU and FAI should be thinking about is a return. It is not going to be a flick of the switch. There has to be some creative thinking what a phased return looks like.

It could look like, rocking up, playing the game and not hanging around in large numbers. You allow that to happen and wait a month and if you haven't had a massive outbreak in your team or club or community then you say 'Ok, this is fine.' Then you look at the next step . . .

So the GAA are doing as they should and saying nothing for now because nobody knows...as annoying as it is we all want answers.

I do think however club teams will try to train in small groups soon and this needs to be addressed"
What they are saying is the players need to accept the risk with close physical contact and possibility of bringing the virus into their families, that is the only way games will be played, i for one wont be taking that risk so people social distancing in the crowd or watching at home can have some entertainment

dec (None) - Posts: 232 - 03/05/2020 14:10:06    2277362

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Replying To dec:  "
Replying To yew_tree:  "Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of NPHET in an interview with the Irish Times today pours cold water on Varadkars GAA soundbite from Friday night.

And contact sport on August 10th?

Contact sports we would see as the last ones to come on stream.

The club GAA championship could happen?

Potentially. Maybe, like golf, they don't share the dressing room. They come and warm-up, play the game and then shower at home.

In small club championships you could probably have a few hundred people at the game, socially distancing. But you probably cannot bring a team or bus load of supporters from Dublin down to that county.

A county championship could take place in certain circumstances if you are creative. I do not have all the answers to this situation but it is like all the businesses trying to get back to work.

What the GAA, IRFU and FAI should be thinking about is a return. It is not going to be a flick of the switch. There has to be some creative thinking what a phased return looks like.

It could look like, rocking up, playing the game and not hanging around in large numbers. You allow that to happen and wait a month and if you haven't had a massive outbreak in your team or club or community then you say 'Ok, this is fine.' Then you look at the next step . . .

So the GAA are doing as they should and saying nothing for now because nobody knows...as annoying as it is we all want answers.

I do think however club teams will try to train in small groups soon and this needs to be addressed"
What they are saying is the players need to accept the risk with close physical contact and possibility of bringing the virus into their families, that is the only way games will be played, i for one wont be taking that risk so people social distancing in the crowd or watching at home can have some entertainment"
I was surprised to hear Leo make a distinction of GAA as a light contact sport as opposed to Rugby and wrestling, but he did none the less. I think the government will ultimately abdicate responsibility to the GAA to make the decision.

I thought it was significant he mentioned behind closed doors games. For me i think this is the growing "best case scenario" - yes you could try social distance is some grounds , play the championship in bigger stadiums rather then home and away, but really its impossible - someone in your row will get up for a slash and brush by you 10 mins before half time or their will be melee to get into a game and leaving.

But for me what you really dont want is a significant number of people traveling from one end of the country to the other during this crisis, its a recipe for infecting every pocket of the country, not to mention cross border travel with different health jurisdictions and possible travel restrictions and protocols between countries.

As for players my take is I think that it was always going to be the case really that all players have a choice to make, no one can force anyone to do something they dont want to do, GAA players are citizens donating their time to a hobby really.

If a season is to come of either club or county and that remains a big if, players have a choice to make, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of players opt out for the year if it happens, i wouldn't blame anyone to be honest. So could make for quite a different championships if they were to happen.

So maybe behind closed doors championships, with steaming arrangements or an subscription RTE GAA channel, in a socially distanced beer garden for spectators with very different looking county teams might be the balance struck.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3354 - 03/05/2020 14:53:26    2277364

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Most Coranovirus cases are located within the 'Pale' . If those counties are excluded a successful All Ireland in both codes could be held. Thurles could stage All Ireland Finals !!!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 502 - 03/05/2020 16:07:34    2277367

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Replying To Rockies:  "Most Coranovirus cases are located within the 'Pale' . If those counties are excluded a successful All Ireland in both codes could be held. Thurles could stage All Ireland Finals !!!"
That already exists. Its called the tier 2 championship

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4432 - 03/05/2020 16:41:47    2277370

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "That already exists. Its called the tier 2 championship"
Hurling championship would largely be unaffected! In football, Dublin would have an outside chance of winning! Otherwise, successful All Ireland's could be held. A ring of steel could be erected around the 'Pale'

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 502 - 03/05/2020 17:04:24    2277375

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Replying To catch22:  "The amount of posts on here telling anyone that will listen that this cant happen and there will be no games is amazing considering even the experts don't know how this will play out. People wanting certainty where there is none and if they did say the county championship or the club was terminated for 2020 and a scenario arose where games could resume you'd have the very same crowd saying they made premature judgements.
Not so long ago you had one genius suggesting 100,000 people will die in Ireland from this virus and look at how daft that has been shown to be now. The GAA cannot make a call on anything with certainty at the minute."
'Not so long ago you had one genius suggesting 100,000 people will die in Ireland from this virus and look at how daft that has been shown to be now'

Do you need to be schooled on this topic again? This is how exponential growth works with uncontrolled transmission. There's no point getting annoyed with maths!

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 102 - 03/05/2020 17:14:47    2277376

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Replying To TheUsername:  "
Replying To dec:  "[quote=yew_tree:  "Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of NPHET in an interview with the Irish Times today pours cold water on Varadkars GAA soundbite from Friday night.

And contact sport on August 10th?

Contact sports we would see as the last ones to come on stream.

The club GAA championship could happen?

Potentially. Maybe, like golf, they don't share the dressing room. They come and warm-up, play the game and then shower at home.

In small club championships you could probably have a few hundred people at the game, socially distancing. But you probably cannot bring a team or bus load of supporters from Dublin down to that county.

A county championship could take place in certain circumstances if you are creative. I do not have all the answers to this situation but it is like all the businesses trying to get back to work.

What the GAA, IRFU and FAI should be thinking about is a return. It is not going to be a flick of the switch. There has to be some creative thinking what a phased return looks like.

It could look like, rocking up, playing the game and not hanging around in large numbers. You allow that to happen and wait a month and if you haven't had a massive outbreak in your team or club or community then you say 'Ok, this is fine.' Then you look at the next step . . .

So the GAA are doing as they should and saying nothing for now because nobody knows...as annoying as it is we all want answers.

I do think however club teams will try to train in small groups soon and this needs to be addressed"
What they are saying is the players need to accept the risk with close physical contact and possibility of bringing the virus into their families, that is the only way games will be played, i for one wont be taking that risk so people social distancing in the crowd or watching at home can have some entertainment"
I was surprised to hear Leo make a distinction of GAA as a light contact sport as opposed to Rugby and wrestling, but he did none the less. I think the government will ultimately abdicate responsibility to the GAA to make the decision.

I thought it was significant he mentioned behind closed doors games. For me i think this is the growing "best case scenario" - yes you could try social distance is some grounds , play the championship in bigger stadiums rather then home and away, but really its impossible - someone in your row will get up for a slash and brush by you 10 mins before half time or their will be melee to get into a game and leaving.

But for me what you really dont want is a significant number of people traveling from one end of the country to the other during this crisis, its a recipe for infecting every pocket of the country, not to mention cross border travel with different health jurisdictions and possible travel restrictions and protocols between countries.

As for players my take is I think that it was always going to be the case really that all players have a choice to make, no one can force anyone to do something they dont want to do, GAA players are citizens donating their time to a hobby really.

If a season is to come of either club or county and that remains a big if, players have a choice to make, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of players opt out for the year if it happens, i wouldn't blame anyone to be honest. So could make for quite a different championships if they were to happen.

So maybe behind closed doors championships, with steaming arrangements or an subscription RTE GAA channel, in a socially distanced beer garden for spectators with very different looking county teams might be the balance struck."]There won't be a championship end of story. De Gascon who works on that NHET board with Holohan said this last night. Read what he said. Team sports won't be sanctioned by them.

So you can dream up all the scenarios but until this bloody virus leaves us or until there is a vaccine there won't be team sports.

And it won't be left over to the GAA to decide. Leo Varadkar was so poor the other night on TV it was not funny. The Health Professionals will be calling the shots and as of last night one of their eminent people said they would not be sanctioning team sports

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 173 - 03/05/2020 17:58:13    2277377

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Replying To Morty:  "'Not so long ago you had one genius suggesting 100,000 people will die in Ireland from this virus and look at how daft that has been shown to be now'

Do you need to be schooled on this topic again? This is how exponential growth works with uncontrolled transmission. There's no point getting annoyed with maths!"
It's nothing to with maths and you're the one that needs schooling. It was a statement that was made with no qualification about exponential growth so try reading what was posted before you make a fool of yourself.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1366 - 03/05/2020 18:02:39    2277378

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Ain't dropped in for awhile and I see the place is well should we say cocooned lol.
Anyway does anybody really think we gonna get a championship? Even behind closed doors? Surely every game would have to be broadcast on some channels.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16571 - 03/05/2020 20:12:20    2277393

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "
Replying To TheUsername:  "[quote=dec:  "[quote=yew_tree:  "Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of NPHET in an interview with the Irish Times today pours cold water on Varadkars GAA soundbite from Friday night.

And contact sport on August 10th?

Contact sports we would see as the last ones to come on stream.

The club GAA championship could happen?

Potentially. Maybe, like golf, they don't share the dressing room. They come and warm-up, play the game and then shower at home.

In small club championships you could probably have a few hundred people at the game, socially distancing. But you probably cannot bring a team or bus load of supporters from Dublin down to that county.

A county championship could take place in certain circumstances if you are creative. I do not have all the answers to this situation but it is like all the businesses trying to get back to work.

What the GAA, IRFU and FAI should be thinking about is a return. It is not going to be a flick of the switch. There has to be some creative thinking what a phased return looks like.

It could look like, rocking up, playing the game and not hanging around in large numbers. You allow that to happen and wait a month and if you haven't had a massive outbreak in your team or club or community then you say 'Ok, this is fine.' Then you look at the next step . . .

So the GAA are doing as they should and saying nothing for now because nobody knows...as annoying as it is we all want answers.

I do think however club teams will try to train in small groups soon and this needs to be addressed"
What they are saying is the players need to accept the risk with close physical contact and possibility of bringing the virus into their families, that is the only way games will be played, i for one wont be taking that risk so people social distancing in the crowd or watching at home can have some entertainment"
I was surprised to hear Leo make a distinction of GAA as a light contact sport as opposed to Rugby and wrestling, but he did none the less. I think the government will ultimately abdicate responsibility to the GAA to make the decision.

I thought it was significant he mentioned behind closed doors games. For me i think this is the growing "best case scenario" - yes you could try social distance is some grounds , play the championship in bigger stadiums rather then home and away, but really its impossible - someone in your row will get up for a slash and brush by you 10 mins before half time or their will be melee to get into a game and leaving.

But for me what you really dont want is a significant number of people traveling from one end of the country to the other during this crisis, its a recipe for infecting every pocket of the country, not to mention cross border travel with different health jurisdictions and possible travel restrictions and protocols between countries.

As for players my take is I think that it was always going to be the case really that all players have a choice to make, no one can force anyone to do something they dont want to do, GAA players are citizens donating their time to a hobby really.

If a season is to come of either club or county and that remains a big if, players have a choice to make, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of players opt out for the year if it happens, i wouldn't blame anyone to be honest. So could make for quite a different championships if they were to happen.

So maybe behind closed doors championships, with steaming arrangements or an subscription RTE GAA channel, in a socially distanced beer garden for spectators with very different looking county teams might be the balance struck."]There won't be a championship end of story. De Gascon who works on that NHET board with Holohan said this last night. Read what he said. Team sports won't be sanctioned by them.

So you can dream up all the scenarios but until this bloody virus leaves us or until there is a vaccine there won't be team sports.

And it won't be left over to the GAA to decide. Leo Varadkar was so poor the other night on TV it was not funny. The Health Professionals will be calling the shots and as of last night one of their eminent people said they would not be sanctioning team sports"]Found his interview, very contradictory to be honest, strangely I've seen some find his words hopeful and others like your good self despairing. No team sports this year and then talked about games behind close doors in August/Sep and club games in July, as you were really. It could just be the reporting, Times isn't what it used to be, didn't find it a great interview to be honest and the questioning very ambiguous.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3354 - 03/05/2020 21:53:50    2277403

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Interesting the talk coming out of the meetings of the Premier league chiefs in England. Obviously the first concern is to try and get the 19/20 season finished. Personally with the death rate over there at the moment I don't think that it can be finished.
What more concerned me was the talk of the POSSIBILITY of the 20/21 season being played behind closed doors. A very worrying situation and one that will only change if there is a vaccine.
Regarding a vaccine there are so many theories out there..possible one in Sept, or early next year, or mid next year, or 2 yrs time while I've seen it said there might never be a vaccine. The sea of the unknown is one sure thing about this dreaded thing. An awful thought would be having empty stadia world wide into 21/22 something we'd all agree in.

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 969 - 03/05/2020 23:31:13    2277409

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Replying To TheUsername:  "
Replying To Talking_Sense:  "[quote=TheUsername:  "[quote=dec:  "[quote=yew_tree:  "Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of NPHET in an interview with the Irish Times today pours cold water on Varadkars GAA soundbite from Friday night.

And contact sport on August 10th?

Contact sports we would see as the last ones to come on stream.

The club GAA championship could happen?

Potentially. Maybe, like golf, they don't share the dressing room. They come and warm-up, play the game and then shower at home.

In small club championships you could probably have a few hundred people at the game, socially distancing. But you probably cannot bring a team or bus load of supporters from Dublin down to that county.

A county championship could take place in certain circumstances if you are creative. I do not have all the answers to this situation but it is like all the businesses trying to get back to work.

What the GAA, IRFU and FAI should be thinking about is a return. It is not going to be a flick of the switch. There has to be some creative thinking what a phased return looks like.

It could look like, rocking up, playing the game and not hanging around in large numbers. You allow that to happen and wait a month and if you haven't had a massive outbreak in your team or club or community then you say 'Ok, this is fine.' Then you look at the next step . . .

So the GAA are doing as they should and saying nothing for now because nobody knows...as annoying as it is we all want answers.

I do think however club teams will try to train in small groups soon and this needs to be addressed"
What they are saying is the players need to accept the risk with close physical contact and possibility of bringing the virus into their families, that is the only way games will be played, i for one wont be taking that risk so people social distancing in the crowd or watching at home can have some entertainment"
I was surprised to hear Leo make a distinction of GAA as a light contact sport as opposed to Rugby and wrestling, but he did none the less. I think the government will ultimately abdicate responsibility to the GAA to make the decision.

I thought it was significant he mentioned behind closed doors games. For me i think this is the growing "best case scenario" - yes you could try social distance is some grounds , play the championship in bigger stadiums rather then home and away, but really its impossible - someone in your row will get up for a slash and brush by you 10 mins before half time or their will be melee to get into a game and leaving.

But for me what you really dont want is a significant number of people traveling from one end of the country to the other during this crisis, its a recipe for infecting every pocket of the country, not to mention cross border travel with different health jurisdictions and possible travel restrictions and protocols between countries.

As for players my take is I think that it was always going to be the case really that all players have a choice to make, no one can force anyone to do something they dont want to do, GAA players are citizens donating their time to a hobby really.

If a season is to come of either club or county and that remains a big if, players have a choice to make, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of players opt out for the year if it happens, i wouldn't blame anyone to be honest. So could make for quite a different championships if they were to happen.

So maybe behind closed doors championships, with steaming arrangements or an subscription RTE GAA channel, in a socially distanced beer garden for spectators with very different looking county teams might be the balance struck."]There won't be a championship end of story. De Gascon who works on that NHET board with Holohan said this last night. Read what he said. Team sports won't be sanctioned by them.

So you can dream up all the scenarios but until this bloody virus leaves us or until there is a vaccine there won't be team sports.

And it won't be left over to the GAA to decide. Leo Varadkar was so poor the other night on TV it was not funny. The Health Professionals will be calling the shots and as of last night one of their eminent people said they would not be sanctioning team sports"]Found his interview, very contradictory to be honest, strangely I've seen some find his words hopeful and others like your good self despairing. No team sports this year and then talked about games behind close doors in August/Sep and club games in July, as you were really. It could just be the reporting, Times isn't what it used to be, didn't find it a great interview to be honest and the questioning very ambiguous."]I found De Gascons interview in the Times quite poor as well, full of inconsistencies. Saying one thing and then said something different later. I have a feeling he wouldn't be giving another one anytime soon. I guess the fact he was being interviewed by a sports journalist didn't help. Anyway I agree with you I don't see that this has changed anything and we should sill be on track to see games this year.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 723 - 04/05/2020 02:52:36    2277411

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Would players be willing to play if somehow given go ahead.? A few Premier League players have spoken of a reluctance to take the risk to play
And if a GAA player got it and passed it on to someone which resulted in a death, that would open up a lot of legal enquiries

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2030 - 04/05/2020 10:44:26    2277422

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Would players be willing to play if somehow given go ahead.? A few Premier League players have spoken of a reluctance to take the risk to play
And if a GAA player got it and passed it on to someone which resulted in a death, that would open up a lot of legal enquiries"
my friend is an x co footballer, his 3 kids play now, they live beside his parents who are in their 80s, do ye think they will play in july /aug?

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 1820 - 04/05/2020 11:04:26    2277424

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Would players be willing to play if somehow given go ahead.? A few Premier League players have spoken of a reluctance to take the risk to play
And if a GAA player got it and passed it on to someone which resulted in a death, that would open up a lot of legal enquiries"
Players would probably need to sign a waiver agreement protecting the GAA from any action. You'd hope that if there are games that squads and backroom teams are tested and COVID free.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5636 - 04/05/2020 11:20:07    2277427

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "my friend is an x co footballer, his 3 kids play now, they live beside his parents who are in their 80s, do ye think they will play in july /aug?"
Probably not.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 927 - 04/05/2020 11:42:02    2277431

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "my friend is an x co footballer, his 3 kids play now, they live beside his parents who are in their 80s, do ye think they will play in july /aug?"
If they're young kids there would be no problem in them playing now never mind August as long as the parents take precautions.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1366 - 04/05/2020 11:46:27    2277434

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Replying To catch22:  "If they're young kids there would be no problem in them playing now never mind August as long as the parents take precautions."
I think he means bringing it home to the grandparents.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 927 - 04/05/2020 12:10:40    2277438

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Replying To catch22:  "If they're young kids there would be no problem in them playing now never mind August as long as the parents take precautions."
Johnny's got you covered....................

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 997 - 04/05/2020 12:39:32    2277443

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