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They're more than fussy about people giving their opinions and disagreeing with each other. That's how a forum should be. There are few enough posters here, would be none if we agreed on every topic.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8162 - 01/05/2020 22:39:55 2277250 Link 3 |
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Leo speaking specifically about the GAA more or less has said if an inter-county championship would be played it would be behind closed doors at the earliest Aug/Sep and that decision was up to the GAA. I suppose we will see if there is any flexibility going on with that or whether the GAA will decide to sit it out hoping for bigger crowds. Be weird watching the Dubs on TV live, hopefully pubs might be open though. Hopefully something can be worked out for Clubs before, I'd murder a club championship at the moment, be good for the players as well - well those that choose to play."]Premier League Clubs talking of returning, testing players 3 times a week, costing 30k a week. And those players would be isolating in a hotel. So don't know how Gaa club players would manage, nevermind County. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2894 - 01/05/2020 23:03:19 2277252 Link 2 |
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ya where are all the good posters gone
lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 02/05/2020 01:00:39 2277255 Link 1 |
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Leo speaking specifically about the GAA more or less has said if an inter-county championship would be played it would be behind closed doors at the earliest Aug/Sep and that decision was up to the GAA. I suppose we will see if there is any flexibility going on with that or whether the GAA will decide to sit it out hoping for bigger crowds. Be weird watching the Dubs on TV live, hopefully pubs might be open though. Hopefully something can be worked out for Clubs before, I'd murder a club championship at the moment, be good for the players as well - well those that choose to play."]Premier League Clubs talking of returning, testing players 3 times a week, costing 30k a week. And those players would be isolating in a hotel. So don't know how Gaa club players would manage, nevermind County."]Even if clubs or counties could afford it the healthcare resources they need should only be available when at risk people have been tested and treated first. Boredom isn't a COVID symptom, even if it can cause stress. Testing young healthy GAA players. to play behind closed door games to complete a championship and entertain a television audience, ahead of vulnerable people should be well down the priority list on reopening the country. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8162 - 02/05/2020 10:02:50 2277264 Link 3 |
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The GAA plan is bizarre. They say resumption of games were spectators are limited and social distancing can be maintained. Sure how can you have players play football and have them maintain social distancing at the same time I thinking they are giving us hope but they know it won't happen" There are different elements to how you manage this. Social distancing provides more certainty that you will not pick it up from someone else although the distance could be impacted by various factors such as wind and strength of a cough, however if you cannot practice social distancing then knowing your close contacts is vital. Generally speaking a spectator has limited influence over who there close contacts are so social distancing is the only way to manage it. Players on the pitch have a limited number of close contacts (and ignore people who say that could be up to 50 or 60 as its simply not). I am sure the GAA will bring out a series of rules that will need to be followed to allow training and games to go ahead. It will limit where games perhaps could be played or how may can be at them etc but there are ways of doing it. One interesting point in all of this is that Apple and Google are supposed to have an app that if you use it could tell you if you were a close contact of someone who tested positive - Australia are trying to roll out a similar app however I fear that these type of apps may run into trouble in the EU because of privacy concerns. For a crowd of say 80K people at a game, there are two risks, first that someone at the game has it an passes it on and second the ability of the authorities to trace all their close contacts so they can be isolated and tested. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2025 - 02/05/2020 11:09:42 2277278 Link 1 |
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I thought it was very positive from a sporting perspective but lets be all clear it is on the proviso that the continued key performance indicators continue to improve. This is a living plan so lets not get too positive or negative yet. Assuming all the metrics keep going in the right direction, I think it is quite possible to see club matches starting July 20th with clear social distances for spectators etc. I know one thing I have heard mentioned that is being considered is that initially club games will be attended by club members only, thus limiting the number of spectators. I believe you can social distance these numbers quite easily. Secondly inter county will be played behind closed doors initially. I believe all very manageable with the correct measures in place. But remember this is only possible if we continue to follow the rules - another incentive to follow the directives if we needed one. rossno1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 294 - 02/05/2020 11:59:32 2277282 Link 1 |
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Good points , but what about the problem of players marking each other closely, that's the biggest problem facing any return of contact sports not sure how you get around that
green.and.gold (Leitrim) - Posts: 427 - 02/05/2020 13:34:56 2277291 Link 1 |
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If a player on a particular team had the virus surely he wouldn't be physically able to play a game never mind Mark a man. Also with the 2 meters distancing if all rounds of a club championship in a county were started at the same time this would limit the crowd to basically the 2 clubs involved. The amount of neutrals from other clubs would be dramatically reduced and social distancing would be maintained. I know these points maybe irrelevant if things go wrong but at least last night's road map gives us something to aim for and a chance to talk about a match again and break the boredom. I know the boredom won't kill us but it is causing mental issues for a lot of individuals-let's try and stick to the HSE plan and get back to some form of normality. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 904 - 02/05/2020 14:23:07 2277294 Link 2 |
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Couldn't we just ban tyrone corner backs till things get better ?
carlovia (None) - Posts: 1541 - 02/05/2020 15:33:52 2277300 Link 5 |
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I just dont get how social distancing can be achieved by the players some please explain? Or are they expected to take the risk and the risk to their families? dec (None) - Posts: 296 - 02/05/2020 15:55:12 2277301 Link 1 |
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Only by instant testing I guess. If you can get results quickly maybe then it can be done. Hard to see it though.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2592 - 02/05/2020 18:39:21 2277311 Link 0 |
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Instant testing wouldn't work as the best wait for test results is 4 days at present, who would pay for it etc? Are we to take up hse resources just so we can watch a game in an empty stadium?Also players would need to be quarantining etc which is impossible due to family and work, i think people forget about the players in this and expect them to take risks for our entertainment
dec (None) - Posts: 296 - 02/05/2020 19:31:46 2277318 Link 1 |
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Instant testing is not on at the moment. This is from the Guardian regarding the Premier League: "Premier League clubs have invested in coronavirus testing machines that can turn around results in two and a half hours as they gear up towards finding a way to complete the season. The league is overseeing the initiative and it is understood that some clubs in the Championship have also purchased the machines, which cost £36,000 and are readily available. The machines can test only one person every two and a half hours, meaning that clubs could realistically test seven employees each day with them. That, along with the cost, is probably why there is little demand for them from the NHS - whose test results take longer to return." Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 02/05/2020 19:49:21 2277320 Link 1 |
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Yeah I figured it was fairly unrealistic though Amazon is working on something for their workers but who has that kind of money?
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2592 - 02/05/2020 20:58:29 2277327 Link 0 |
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The guidelines are conflicting when it comes to GAA...it's seems you can train behind closed doors in phase 2 but while maintaining social distancing...how does that work in a contact sport? yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11684 - 02/05/2020 21:53:47 2277328 Link 2 |
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It is hard to visualise how it will work. Might be lots of no contact drills. I suppose things will change, hopefully the virus will lose its virulence or treatments will improve so that it's not so serious. I don't know, at this stage I'll be guided 100% by cmo. If he says it's safe so be it.
Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 02/05/2020 23:36:00 2277336 Link 1 |
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Gaa badly caught on the hop here...two days after government announcement and still no statement from Croke Park. Is Varadkar running the GAA now? mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 03/05/2020 10:11:52 2277343 Link 3 |
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What would you like them to say? The government roadmap is aspirational and subject to change, I'd actually be amazed if it happens as they have set it out. I'm sure the GAA are planning for multiple scenarios but until they certainty about when they can get back on the field they can't really make a firm announcement. I'm sure there will be some statement this week but I wouldn't expect anything concrete in terms of competitions resuming. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 03/05/2020 11:37:41 2277349 Link 8 |
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The amount of posts on here telling anyone that will listen that this cant happen and there will be no games is amazing considering even the experts don't know how this will play out. People wanting certainty where there is none and if they did say the county championship or the club was terminated for 2020 and a scenario arose where games could resume you'd have the very same crowd saying they made premature judgements. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 03/05/2020 12:18:59 2277353 Link 2 |
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I believe the 16-member Special Management Committee are meeting next week to discuss the road map - to be honest i doubt and hope there will be nothing concrete for a bit of time as i think the GAA would be jumping the gin a bit. The whole road map is fluid and depends on the impact of the virus after opening through different phases. The remit of the committee i assume is to their best to balance safety vs interests of the GAA this year, that will be an emerging picture in the weeks ahead. During this time I think they will be engaging key stake holders, the Dep of Sport, Gardai, Licence regulators, GPA, medical professionals, health & safety, legal professionals, While we may also have think of the two jurisdictions and management of the border crossing between Ulster and the other three provinces.- quite a job of work ahead of them. I can see a loose plan at some stage, return of club GAA, a decision made on our responsibility to underage GAA and issues of consent, while if Inter country is to happen, i wouldn't be surprised if they test the waters of behind closed doors or restricted attendees running of the last few league games and taking stock from there. All hypothetical and subjective though. I wouldn't be expecting anything concrete to soon myself. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4518 - 03/05/2020 12:27:02 2277354 Link 1 |