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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 4 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "The opinions on this are absolutely mind boggling lads. If a player is fouled he deserves a chance to score off the ground or from the hands. Jesus wept."
A lot more posters agreeing with me than you on this… think you are loosing the argument… still waiting on 5/6 problems with the idea… no hurry… you probably need more to dig a bigger hole for yourself…. Lol

ForeverBlue2 (National) - 14/04/2024 18:13:43

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 4 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "Ah lads. So let's slow the play down to take frees from the ground and also have potentially less scores in difficult conditions. And more fouling by defenders in certain cases. Sounds amazing."
Still waiting…… keep digging good lad

ForeverBlue2 (National) - 14/04/2024 18:43:11

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 4 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "1. Slows play down 2. Can be difficult in certain condtions 3. Not everyone can do it. If main free taker is missing it makes it even harder for team to convert 4. Cynical fouling by defenders in certain area of the field knowing they won't concede. 5. It will lead to attackers who are not confident or having an off day going short instead of kicking for score from distance from the hands. Feel free to actually debate the above good lad."
You obviously love the skill of kicking a ball from hands over the bar 14 yards out.Joe Biden could do that.

CiarraiMick (National) - 14/04/2024 19:52:41

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 4 Like(s)
Hitting a free off the ground well is a skill that not everyone has. By allowing frees out of the hand, we are favouring the un-skilled. And the biggest annoyance with frees out of the hand is that every single player who takes a free out of the hands cheats. They all steal a few metres and they make the angle easier. Referees do nothing.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (National) - 14/04/2024 21:36:13

Attendances 2024 - 4 Like(s)
Time of year has nothing to do with it. Everyone knew Dublin would wallop Meath in 3rd gear. The Leinster championship is absolutely dead. Watch the full Houses next week at the Munster hurling championship and I reckon Hyde Park will be close to full for Roscommon v Mayo too.

yew_tree (National) - 14/04/2024 22:06:11

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "Correct. There are so many reasons why it's a stupid idea. The poster talks as if taking frees from the ground is easy and all forwards should be good at it. A definite armchair fan making random suggestions. What if main free taker gets injured? Are we really expecting teams to have 2 or 3 really good free takers off the ground? Nonsensical."
Frees from the ground is a much better and nicer skill. Those of us of an older vintage could name so many brilliant free takers we have had the pleasure of watching over the years. Tony McTeague of Offaly kicked left and right, Maurice Fitzgerald, Brian Stafford, Larry Tompkins, Manus Boyle etc etc The way they were able to put a bend on the free was always a pleasure to behold.. None of the modern free takers kicking from the hands spring to mind in the same way. It is a lazy skill and the frees are rarely taken from the correct spot. I personally would love to see the return to all scorable frees being taken from the ground.

Eastcoastexile (National) - 14/04/2024 16:09:30

Attendances 2024 - 3 Like(s)
I've been saying it time and time again, and will not stop until things change. The GAA's complacency and lack of effort in terms of making our games appealing will have detrimental results if they don't address it soon. Croke park is like a funeral 90% of the year. And even the other 10% is purely down to the game and not the show put on by the gaa. Gaa traditionalists hate 'americanising' our games, well I'm sorry but we can hold that opinion until there is eventually nobody going to our games, or we can get with the times and create a feel good factor around our grounds. Market our games, have proper music playing before and after, have proper team announcements and not someone reading a team sheet putting the whole place to sleep. Small little changes

LoyalRoyal66 (National) - 14/04/2024 19:14:55

Attendances 2024 - 3 Like(s)
Gotta be a new low for Dublin/Meath games.

realdub (National) - 14/04/2024 20:40:11

Attendances 2024 - 3 Like(s)

Replying To galwayford:  "I am not one to moan and whinge, but having only 21K at Dubs V Meath is not good. What on earth are the elite in Croke park doing. Poor weather, other competitions, lack of publicity. There is a lot of reasons. But poor decisions by the GAA are among the main ones. This split season is a joke really."
Same as yourself, the split season is a balls up really, instead of going to Cship games in our Tshirts were going with our top coats on wooley hats and the rest, add in daft rule changes , 15 men behind the ball , pulling and dragging, but i suppose ill keep going hoping that good honest football might break out some day

germac (National) - 14/04/2024 21:09:50

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Ulsterchamps_32:  "If you take all you say here as accurate you're advocating for a change that will create more fouling. Why would you advocate for such a thing?"
Im not advocating for more fouling.I want more entertainment.Free taking from the ground is entertaining.Its no coincidence the higlights years ago showed free taking .They dont now unless its from awkward angles or distance.Maybe im looking through rose tinted glass but the Jimmy Keaveneys Barney and Dean Rocks Maurice Fitzgeralds Matt Connors Colin Corkerys Brian Staffords gave us all great entertainment not to mention the Cluxtons Seanie O Sheas Niall Morgans and Rory Beggan.My point is that ground free taking is so much more skilful.

CiarraiMick (National) - 14/04/2024 22:00:36

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "1. Slows play down 2. Can be difficult in certain condtions 3. Not everyone can do it. If main free taker is missing it makes it even harder for team to convert 4. Cynical fouling by defenders in certain area of the field knowing they won't concede. 5. It will lead to attackers who are not confident or having an off day going short instead of kicking for score from distance from the hands. Feel free to actually debate the above good lad."
No evidence it would slow pay down at all..all aspects of the game are difficult in certain conditions …practice means any forward could do it but I agree none of them can kick a ball of the ground at present leading to the nonsensical sight of every goalkeeper trudging up the field to take free kicks and 45's ( and this really does slow down the game ) you will never cut out cynical fouling regardless and players can still go short out of their hands or from the ground if they chose….You have to try a bit harder than that.. good lad…..!

ForeverBlue2 (National) - 14/04/2024 22:56:19

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "Hitting a free off the ground well is a skill that not everyone has. By allowing frees out of the hand, we are favouring the un-skilled. And the biggest annoyance with frees out of the hand is that every single player who takes a free out of the hands cheats. They all steal a few metres and they make the angle easier. Referees do nothing."
Well put… another good reason taking frees from the ground for scores makes more sense.. cuts out cheating… some players gain 2/3 yards before they shoot taking frees from the hand…!

ForeverBlue2 (National) - 14/04/2024 23:01:41

Attendances 2024 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "A massive 21k in Croke park… only 61k empty seats but sure attendance figures are holding up just grand according to the deluded…. Nobody in Portlaois and 4 teams playing but that's a great crowd as per the deluded….."
61k empty seats is pretty disappointing. At this stage of the season the gaa usually likes to see about 70k. Whatever about combating declining attendances just use a smaller stadium to begin with ffs.

Galway9801 (National) - 14/04/2024 17:55:31

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "I am specifically talking about the outside of the year boot frees from distance. That's what we are talking about. He wasn't the primary free taker and was used for long distance frees from the hands. O Connor all hands now. Why do we care? It adds nothing."
O Connor missed out of his hands to win the All Ireland for Mayo…. if only it was frees of the ground only for scores you could have been celebrating…

ForeverBlue2 (National) - 15/04/2024 13:07:56

Attendances 2024 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Galway9801:  "61k empty seats is pretty disappointing. At this stage of the season the gaa usually likes to see about 70k. Whatever about combating declining attendances just use a smaller stadium to begin with ffs."
That would involve using intelligence…!!

ForeverBlue2 (National) - 14/04/2024 18:16:36

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "The opinions on this are absolutely mind boggling lads. If a player is fouled he deserves a chance to score off the ground or from the hands. Jesus wept."
True but in a time where the gaa os trying to compete with other sports entertainment is important and there is no entertainment watching a player take a 14 yards frees from the hand and there is no skill involved.If a player is fouled of course award a free but off the ground would be better.

CiarraiMick (National) - 14/04/2024 18:21:16

Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Would it make it more interesting if the player who is fouled has to take the free??going by what we see at the moment it would be interesting to see how many of a teams 6 forwards can actually kick a ball..

CTGAA10 (National) - 14/04/2024 18:56:45

Attendances 2024 - 2 Like(s)
Hard to find attendance figures for other games this weekend but very average crowds looking at TV . Playing the championship matchs in April a non traditional time of the year with many other popular sports in the final weeks of their seasons on TV is a disaster from an attendance point of view . Unless there is a box office fixture like Limerick v Clare in hurling next week or Derry v Donegal other fixtures are attracting about half what they'd get in previous years in June or July .

OpenStand (National) - 14/04/2024 19:06:25

Attendances 2024 - 2 Like(s)
I am not one to moan and whinge, but having only 21K at Dubs V Meath is not good. What on earth are the elite in Croke park doing. Poor weather, other competitions, lack of publicity. There is a lot of reasons. But poor decisions by the GAA are among the main ones. This split season is a joke really.

galwayford (National) - 14/04/2024 19:22:11

Attendances 2024 - 2 Like(s)
Think split season works but all Ireland finals need to go to first 2 weekends in august..the crowds at matches this weekend were dreadful..21 thousand in croke park with 6 different teams..Leinster council have to take games out of croker,if match today was in nowlan park it would have been better than looking ata quarter full stadium..I've said winning provincial championship means nothing really because the top teams are still going to play in Sam,there is no jepordy at all..is there going to be a surprise on who plays in Sam,no..croke park handed over to Leinster rugby smack bang in middle of championship..

CTGAA10 (National) - 14/04/2024 19:57:56