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David Clifford The Goat - 3 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.
The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.
I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled." Question for your Barney - would you trust David in particular to drag you out of a deep hole when backs are really against the wall? Genuine question so no right or wrong answer!
I know when we were struggling over the years in big games then its in those moments that the best of the best come to the fore i.e. think James McCarthy simply refusing to lie down in a few massive games over the years. I think Paudie has shown more of those never say die qualities than David and again last Sunday. That's why the "GOAT" conversation isn't as cut and dried in my mind compared to a lot of peoples. He undoubtedly has the skill level to eclipse a lot of what we have seen over the years but those other less tangible qualities in terms of leadership and resilience I'm just not sure he is at that elite 1% level...yet.
TrueBlue35 (National) - 29/07/2026 14:19:00
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David Clifford The Goat - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "Definitely up there with the greats but some from his neck of the woods have a chip on their shoulder about him…! . Every team would want him, But….
This topic is about him being the GOAT.
He is Not." Who is so Fionn? I have nt seen a better baller.I wish he was a Dub.I ve me him and he is a sound bloke.Most of the great reckon he is the best and hard to argue with it.Barney hit nail on head,Kerry without the brothers Clifford are very ordinary.
I went to see him in a club match a few years ago with a Kerry mate and I thought I was seen things magical.Met him after the game after he spent about an hour signing jersey and doin selfies.A different man off the pitch and a big man.Very friendly and down to earth.
brayballer (National) - 29/07/2026 18:15:28
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David Clifford The Goat - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfan: "101 points from play from 98 shots in the Championship (s).
Not bad" That stat is insane if true.
Seniorleague (National) - 29/07/2026 22:20:07
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David Clifford The Goat - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "Also a club game for a non senior club.
You are not comparing like with like.
Con has won a Senior All Ireland Club winners medal in Both codes.
Different gravy." Well let's compare like for like.
The general consensus was that both Clifford and Con had "quiet" games in their semi final a couple of weeks. Agreed?
Con returned 0-2(tp) while Clifford notched 1-5.
peiledoir20 (National) - 29/07/2026 22:13:37
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David Clifford The Goat - 3 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "A few posters here dont like to give David full credit.If he was nt from Kerry maybe they would say different.
Most people that call him the goat are from outside Kerry.Most of us hate hearing that and I believe he hates it himself.
The facts are that David Clifford is a fantastic footballer.Well as Barney says he plays on a mediocre team.Can you imagine if he played on a great team.
Begrudges say ah he s good but Ive seen better.
David is the second top scorer in championship history and he is only 27.
Cillian O Connor is top.However most of Davids scores are from.play.
David has played in 6 All Ireland finals and I believe is the highest scorer ever from play in finals.
He has constantly been brilliant.One of his great displays was against Tyrone in 21 semi and he got injured for extra time.
He has scored at will in huge games against top teams.
Every game he plays the opposition have a plan for him and nearly always two men on him and often 3.
Ive seen great players in the past like Matt Connor Declan Browne but they were marked man to man.
David was a superhuman minor and is the highest scoring minor of all time.
As a senior he has been outstanding and his scoring is off the charts.
As Paul Flynn has said a few times "David Clifford can score 1-9 in a game and wont get motm cos he is judged by different standards.
Onr of the greatest of all time was Peter Canavan and Peter reckons he has never seen the likes of David.
A Dublin poster last year claimed David has never done it on the big days.Thats a laugh.
Its jealousy in my view and most of it comes from.the same area.Tbf old posters like Realdub always spoke highly of David.
David always delivers..He had a quiet day in 23 but still scored 3 points and set up a fab goal and 3 more points. Diarmiid Connlolly (a class player) did nt score in 4 finals.ComO Callaghan did nt score in 23 final.
Many great players have had bad days but David nearly always shines.
Hoganstand forum wont judge David s legacy.History will and it will be very kind to him." Firstly commiserations Mick. By all accounts the Kerry fans were very magmanimous in defeat and that's one of the things that made the aftermath in Croke PARK so special to witness. I can guess that you were the first to shake your neighbours hand and wish them well.
As for DC - Unfortunately he is measured by a different yardstick and that may seem unfair. He is an incredible talent and without doubt he is the best I have seen. Power, balance, athleticism, vision and accuracy all combined in one devastating package. I would pay no heed to the begrudgers. Anybody who cannot see how good he is just does't understand or appreciate football.
Anyway, hope you are well. Sunday was a magical day in many ways and Kerry were part of that- albeit not in the way you may have wanted. Anyway, Kerry will be marching up the Hogan again in the not too distant future.
avonali (National) - 29/07/2026 20:29:13
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Kerry All Ireland Champions 2026? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "100%
As good and determined as Mayo were, Kerry will be kicking themselves at how poor they were and how one dimensional they were. They could have been easily 10 points up in that first half. But they were awful in that 2nd half and in truth Mayo should have won by more if Mayo had taken all their chances.
For the Mayo goal, 4 Kerry players were sent to the shops by Ryan. He slalomed by them.
But full credit to Mayo.
It was some victory." All you Dublin posters are putting forward your argument to suit the old Dublin team. The old Dublin team of the teens wasn't as good as you are making out. You wouldn't say Kerry were poor in the final where was it Conn got the ball from the throw in and ran through for a goal with Kerry players standing looking at him. Dublin got 4 All Irelands gave to them in that decade.
Saynothing (National) - 29/07/2026 11:34:11
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David Clifford The Goat - 2 Like(s)
A few posters here dont like to give David full credit.If he was nt from Kerry maybe they would say different.
Most people that call him the goat are from outside Kerry.Most of us hate hearing that and I believe he hates it himself.
The facts are that David Clifford is a fantastic footballer.Well as Barney says he plays on a mediocre team.Can you imagine if he played on a great team.
Begrudges say ah he s good but Ive seen better.
David is the second top scorer in championship history and he is only 27.
Cillian O Connor is top.However most of Davids scores are from.play.
David has played in 6 All Ireland finals and I believe is the highest scorer ever from play in finals.
He has constantly been brilliant.One of his great displays was against Tyrone in 21 semi and he got injured for extra time.
He has scored at will in huge games against top teams.
Every game he plays the opposition have a plan for him and nearly always two men on him and often 3.
Ive seen great players in the past like Matt Connor Declan Browne but they were marked man to man.
David was a superhuman minor and is the highest scoring minor of all time.
As a senior he has been outstanding and his scoring is off the charts.
As Paul Flynn has said a few times "David Clifford can score 1-9 in a game and wont get motm cos he is judged by different standards.
Onr of the greatest of all time was Peter Canavan and Peter reckons he has never seen the likes of David.
A Dublin poster last year claimed David has never done it on the big days.Thats a laugh.
Its jealousy in my view and most of it comes from.the same area.Tbf old posters like Realdub always spoke highly of David.
David always delivers..He had a quiet day in 23 but still scored 3 points and set up a fab goal and 3 more points. Diarmiid Connlolly (a class player) did nt score in 4 finals.ComO Callaghan did nt score in 23 final.
Many great players have had bad days but David nearly always shines.
Hoganstand forum wont judge David s legacy.History will and it will be very kind to him.
CiarraiMick (National) - 29/07/2026 15:24:22
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David Clifford The Goat - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TrueBlue35: "Question for your Barney - would you trust David in particular to drag you out of a deep hole when backs are really against the wall? Genuine question so no right or wrong answer!
I know when we were struggling over the years in big games then its in those moments that the best of the best come to the fore i.e. think James McCarthy simply refusing to lie down in a few massive games over the years. I think Paudie has shown more of those never say die qualities than David and again last Sunday. That's why the "GOAT" conversation isn't as cut and dried in my mind compared to a lot of peoples. He undoubtedly has the skill level to eclipse a lot of what we have seen over the years but those other less tangible qualities in terms of leadership and resilience I'm just not sure he is at that elite 1% level...yet." I would if he was surrounded by Connolly, Kilkenny, the Brogans, Con, Fenton etc, etc! Or indeed by the Gooch, Declan O'Sullivan, Star and the boys.
My point is that is he outstanding on what minus himself and Paudie C is a very average team that would not have won either All Ireland without them. Which is not true of better Kerry teams or better Dublin teams who survived big injury and other losses because they had better players.
DC is undoubtedly up there with the greats and his performance was surely among the 3/4 best of any player on Sunday.
BarneyGrant (National) - 29/07/2026 16:00:19
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Limerick & Kerry For The Double - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "Maybe their 40th is not far away, and those t-shirts can be updated, but…. as I already said, as a friend of mine from Galway messaged me - "this Kerry team will now always be remembered as the team that lost an All Ireland Final to Mayo…"." Galways championship record against Kerry is atrocious, as was Dublins before the GAA stepped in (wink wink).
Your Galway friend I promise would gladly take 39 all Ireland titles if it meant being the team who lost to Mayo in an All-Ireland final.
Seniorleague (National) - 29/07/2026 16:25:24
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David Clifford The Goat - 2 Like(s)
Replying To brayballer: "Who is so Fionn? I have nt seen a better baller.I wish he was a Dub.I ve me him and he is a sound bloke.Most of the great reckon he is the best and hard to argue with it.Barney hit nail on head,Kerry without the brothers Clifford are very ordinary.
I went to see him in a club match a few years ago with a Kerry mate and I thought I was seen things magical.Met him after the game after he spent about an hour signing jersey and doin selfies.A different man off the pitch and a big man.Very friendly and down to earth." Look everyone is going to be defensive and protective of their own county and club, and players from their own county and club. It is only natural.
For me the King Con is better than King David.
And Prince Kobe has the potential to be better than both.
My personal view on rating how good a player is his ability, skill, scoring, creativity, defensive attributes, team work and workrate.
For me overall Con is better.
Add to that what Con has achieved in Both codes.
Phenomenal.
DC is one of the best forwards of all time.
Better than Con in the scoring charts for sure.
But the GOAT - nope.
Maybe I am biased but that is my opinion.
Fionn (National) - 29/07/2026 19:27:41
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Dublin GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Beelzedub: "Our City lost one of its great ambassadors today.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/oscar-winning-musician-glen-hansard-dies-in-dublin-motorcycle-crash/a/159330721.html
Terribly sad news" Shocking news. I seen online he was out in the Wrens Nest at their weekly trad session. Who knew it would be his last. RIP.
Square_B (National) - 29/07/2026 21:46:32
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Kinvara: "He scored one of the greatest points in AI final history when his team needed him most on Sunday" Missed a two pointer near the end when his team needed him most. He's a great player no doubt. The greatest is Matt Connor Offaly.
endgame (National) - 29/07/2026 19:45:33
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To bláthach: "Agree 100% thanks so much. He was lucky he didn't opt for Roscommon or all he would be aiming for is quarter finals at best. I like. Thank you." Thanks for giving me the opportunity to reply. Best of luck to you all on the Tailteann Cup and Division 4 football next season. Love to all.
moros (National) - 29/07/2026 22:22:51
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Replying To avonali: "Firstly commiserations Mick. By all accounts the Kerry fans were very magmanimous in defeat and that's one of the things that made the aftermath in Croke PARK so special to witness. I can guess that you were the first to shake your neighbours hand and wish them well.
As for DC - Unfortunately he is measured by a different yardstick and that may seem unfair. He is an incredible talent and without doubt he is the best I have seen. Power, balance, athleticism, vision and accuracy all combined in one devastating package. I would pay no heed to the begrudgers. Anybody who cannot see how good he is just does't understand or appreciate football.
Anyway, hope you are well. Sunday was a magical day in many ways and Kerry were part of that- albeit not in the way you may have wanted. Anyway, Kerry will be marching up the Hogan again in the not too distant future." No matter what DC does football is a team game.
If the other 14 aren't up to scratch you won't be winning many cups.
Even Peter Canavan (1995) couldn't win Sam on his own. Came very close mind you!
Seanfan (National) - 30/07/2026 00:25:53
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Dublin GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "100%
But don't forget that his suspension carries forward into 2027 also.
Absolutely bonkers…!" I have read the same in the media, how was his suspension framed to end and start again?
sligo joe (National) - 29/07/2026 17:49:20
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "Definitely up there with the greats but some from his neck of the woods have a chip on their shoulder about him…! . Every team would want him, But….
This topic is about him being the GOAT.
He is Not." 101 points from play from 98 shots in the Championship (s).
Not bad
Seanfan (National) - 29/07/2026 17:34:54
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I would if he was surrounded by Connolly, Kilkenny, the Brogans, Con, Fenton etc, etc! Or indeed by the Gooch, Declan O'Sullivan, Star and the boys.
My point is that is he outstanding on what minus himself and Paudie C is a very average team that would not have won either All Ireland without them. Which is not true of better Kerry teams or better Dublin teams who survived big injury and other losses because they had better players.
DC is undoubtedly up there with the greats and his performance was surely among the 3/4 best of any player on Sunday." Definitely up there with the greats but some from his neck of the woods have a chip on their shoulder about him…! . Every team would want him, But….
This topic is about him being the GOAT.
He is Not.
Fionn (National) - 29/07/2026 17:01:25
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Mayo All Ireland Champions 2026! - 1 Like(s)
Replying To tireoghainabu: "The provincials have been de- valued but the Connacht championship will be some craic next year." Not so sure the Rossies, Armagh and Westmeath would agree with that.
Everyone wanted competitive provinces in football - we now have 3.
And it is a very tough one to pick the winners of each of those 3 for next year tbh.
Mayo celebrations will last long into the Winter and might affect their League campaign but they will want to be Connacht kingpins again next season.
Leinster - Meath, Westmeath, Louth & Dublin.
Perhaps a dark horse to emerge.
About time Kildare stood up to the plate tbh.
Ulster - I think Donegal will be very determined to put a few things right.
The Hurling province looks to be predictable again next season.
Fionn (National) - 30/07/2026 08:57:01
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Roscommon GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To yew_tree: "Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the well wishes since Sunday. I spoke to a few who drove down Sunday and Monday thru Roscommon and there was people out clapping.
The feeling is still surreal and I do sincerely wish every single county could experience winning an All Ireland title and every county should and can aspire to win an All Ireland. No reason why Roscommon can't push on next year and be at the business end in Croke Park….the raw materials are there." Thanks Yew Tree.
Particularly delighted for the players who soldered for years, O'Shea, O'Connor brothers, Hennelly, Durkin, etc. We don't like them when they play the Rossies but you really have to admire them for sticking with it.
Should make for a good match up in the National League and a real boost to the Connacht Championship and also other counties.
Enjoy the next few weeks and months.
letsgetgoing (National) - 29/07/2026 11:32:38
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Mayo All Ireland Champions 2026! - 1 Like(s)
Had a quick look on PP for 2027 - not really sure how we are rated as second favourites.
Kerry 15/8
Donegal 5/1
Mayo 7/1
Armagh 8/1
Dublin 10/1
Galway 10/1
Tyrone 10/1
Lockjaw (National) - 29/07/2026 15:57:05
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