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A lot of posters here really lose the run of themselves.
1. Playing the match in Hyde park favored Mayo. Playing in in Omagh would be ridiculous as was playing it in Monaghan.
The fairest venues were Sligo, Leitrim, Cavan or Fermanagh. The GAA went for the biggest ground once Mayo beat Tyrone. If Mayo had lost to Tyrone, St Molaise Gaels in Grange would have done.
2. Mayo and Donegal played very well defensively - two very different defensive systems, both very effective. Turnovers (and use of them) were key to the win as neither team got much joy off the others defense.
3. Either team could have won it and Donegal had 2 weapons Mayo didn't possess, long range free taker and long kickouts.
Patton and Murphy being the difference really.
4. Patton didnt have to kick the ball out fast, once he did, there was no possibility to kick it out of play as Mayo would have had the sideline ball.
5. Mayo switched off for the last kick. Someone should have stood on the tee while eveyone else got into position. Some of the Mayo players seem like minor footballers when it comes to these situations.
6. A lot being made of Mayos lack of forwards etc - Donegal messed up a lot and relied on defenders to score on the counter. Not a lot between the teams if we are honest about it.
7. Donegal tend to perform to a higher level than Mayo on a regular basis - Mayo tend to drop concentration more often. Mayo had a review last year and changed the psychologist in the backroom team. Whoever took that job this season, made no impact at all.
8. Donegal have as good a chance as anyone left to win the All Ireland. It will be a big ask now but have a reasonable draw at home to Louth and with Meath and Monaghan potential q final opponents - they have a good chance for a Semi. A bit of rest before that and who knows.
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Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Unlucky to be out of championship, Donegal could just have easily kicked for touch
as a draw was fine. It was a risky thing Donegal did going for winning point.
You would have to tip your hat at them for that.
Plenty of positives for Mayo to build on though." It was risky but was there an element before the game from Donegal that yesterday was the day to get rid of Mayo? Mayo would only have been getting better as the games went on as they've shown in the last 2 games. Maybe Donegals killer instinct wanted to eliminate a possible threat to their own ambitions further down the line
D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 296 - 16/06/2025 11:59:00
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Plus ye want to put us out. Ye were ruthless as you would expect a McGuinness team to be and a win is better for the confidence for games ahead. A great point to win it but defending should have been better. We switched off a bit after the equaliser. Best of luck for remainder of the Championship." Great to hear from a sporting Mayo fan. In fairness the kick out could have trickled out of play when it missed the Donegal full back. It dropped to the worse man possible for you as Moore has a great engine.
I think it's time for Mayo to regroup, plenty of good young players.
We shall meet again next year.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 578 - 16/06/2025 12:35:45
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Replying To S1234: "Sure you wanted the game in Cavan hardly fair to Mayo either. You can hardly calm Rossie land a home game for us that's quite insulting !
Thought you were meant to beat us out the gate by half time . You are not that good and won't be winning Sam. It will go to Armagh again .
You can't even be graceful after winning a match and knocking us out by saying hard luck to mayo . No you have to moan about the venue again!
We are a young team and will be better next year with Durcan having more game time & Tommy C back also hearing Oisin Mullin will be back.
Not going to say best of luck to you lot after McGuiness and your comments on here up Armagh !" This emotional summation didn't go so well for you.
As ever, the lack of scoring forwards cost you.
Game management at the death was non-existent but Donegal's execution was exactly that - an execution.
Pinning your hopes on the return of Tommy C mightn't work either.
Boxtyeater (Leitrim) - Posts: 745 - 16/06/2025 12:44:33
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "A lot of posters here really lose the run of themselves.
1. Playing the match in Hyde park favored Mayo. Playing in in Omagh would be ridiculous as was playing it in Monaghan.
The fairest venues were Sligo, Leitrim, Cavan or Fermanagh. The GAA went for the biggest ground once Mayo beat Tyrone. If Mayo had lost to Tyrone, St Molaise Gaels in Grange would have done.
2. Mayo and Donegal played very well defensively - two very different defensive systems, both very effective. Turnovers (and use of them) were key to the win as neither team got much joy off the others defense.
3. Either team could have won it and Donegal had 2 weapons Mayo didn't possess, long range free taker and long kickouts.
Patton and Murphy being the difference really.
4. Patton didnt have to kick the ball out fast, once he did, there was no possibility to kick it out of play as Mayo would have had the sideline ball.
5. Mayo switched off for the last kick. Someone should have stood on the tee while eveyone else got into position. Some of the Mayo players seem like minor footballers when it comes to these situations.
6. A lot being made of Mayos lack of forwards etc - Donegal messed up a lot and relied on defenders to score on the counter. Not a lot between the teams if we are honest about it.
7. Donegal tend to perform to a higher level than Mayo on a regular basis - Mayo tend to drop concentration more often. Mayo had a review last year and changed the psychologist in the backroom team. Whoever took that job this season, made no impact at all.
8. Donegal have as good a chance as anyone left to win the All Ireland. It will be a big ask now but have a reasonable draw at home to Louth and with Meath and Monaghan potential q final opponents - they have a good chance for a Semi. A bit of rest before that and who knows." Don't worry lad. Just like us ye are "simply not good enough "
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1146 - 16/06/2025 12:47:00
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "A lot of posters here really lose the run of themselves.
1. Playing the match in Hyde park favored Mayo. Playing in in Omagh would be ridiculous as was playing it in Monaghan.
The fairest venues were Sligo, Leitrim, Cavan or Fermanagh. The GAA went for the biggest ground once Mayo beat Tyrone. If Mayo had lost to Tyrone, St Molaise Gaels in Grange would have done.
2. Mayo and Donegal played very well defensively - two very different defensive systems, both very effective. Turnovers (and use of them) were key to the win as neither team got much joy off the others defense.
3. Either team could have won it and Donegal had 2 weapons Mayo didn't possess, long range free taker and long kickouts.
Patton and Murphy being the difference really.
4. Patton didnt have to kick the ball out fast, once he did, there was no possibility to kick it out of play as Mayo would have had the sideline ball.
5. Mayo switched off for the last kick. Someone should have stood on the tee while eveyone else got into position. Some of the Mayo players seem like minor footballers when it comes to these situations.
6. A lot being made of Mayos lack of forwards etc - Donegal messed up a lot and relied on defenders to score on the counter. Not a lot between the teams if we are honest about it.
7. Donegal tend to perform to a higher level than Mayo on a regular basis - Mayo tend to drop concentration more often. Mayo had a review last year and changed the psychologist in the backroom team. Whoever took that job this season, made no impact at all.
8. Donegal have as good a chance as anyone left to win the All Ireland. It will be a big ask now but have a reasonable draw at home to Louth and with Meath and Monaghan potential q final opponents - they have a good chance for a Semi. A bit of rest before that and who knows." Nobody lost run of themselves quite as much as you did comparing Galway v Mayo XV
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1579 - 16/06/2025 12:51:50
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Replying To moros: "Don't worry lad. Just like us ye are "simply not good enough "" One thing is definite in the GAA - the Rossie's will never be good enough. Obsessed with Mayo, yes. Good enough to compete with the best teams in the country - never.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1450 - 16/06/2025 12:52:28
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Replying To yew_tree: "I'm not Belclare…I've been posting here for over 20 years lad." I know you have Belclare and tell us another sob story
Cumann1 (Mayo) - Posts: 78 - 16/06/2025 13:20:01
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Replying To Cbar: "Could he not have delayed kicking the ball out until the buzzer went? And then kicked it dead? It's what I thought he was going to do.
Great for Donegal they went on to win the game but had it been a draw Donegal would be in the same place - so to my mind it was an unnecessary risk.
Anyway, I see Cavan have been drawn away to Kerry - maybe conceding that late point wasn't the worst thing to happen." Ciaran Moore said afterwards that the Donegal players didn't know the lay of the land on the other match, the coaching staff didn't relay the Tyrone v Cavan scores and insisted before the game that the objective was to win, thus why they went for it.
It's heartbreaking for the Mayo players, that freak loss to Cavan was a fluke result, they showed their true quality against Tyrone and ourselves. My thoughts and prayers are with Kevin McStay, hope is recovering well, he is a gentleman of the game.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1378 - 16/06/2025 13:20:35
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "One thing is definite in the GAA - the Rossie's will never be good enough. Obsessed with Mayo, yes. Good enough to compete with the best teams in the country - never." He's right though Mayo haven't been good enough for the last four years now, Good enough to compete is small consolation as wonder where it all went wrong and you wait from the middle of June to the start of Jan to see your county in action again,
2022 - Well beaten by Kerry in the All Ireland Quarter final
2023 - Well beaten by Dublin in the All Ireland Quarter final
2024 - Last 12 knock out by Derry at home
2025 - Group stage knock out losing at home to Cavan and losing in your home from home the Hyde against Donegal
Improvement now rests on the next manager brought in and how many of the U20s can make the step up to senior level, a word of warning its harder for U20s to make that step up than U21 use to be.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 496 - 16/06/2025 13:31:21
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I am not a big fan of what ifs. Mayo have scored i think three 2 pointers in 6 games. It's an embarrassing stat. Despite what some people might think they are not a million miles away. But changes needed for sure.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8445 - 16/06/2025 14:12:13
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Replying To peiledoir20: "That's a sore loser post if ever I saw one.
But you have plenty of experience at this stage, 74 years and counting.
As Brolly once said "Celebrity losers"" I think you should ignore the s1234,Jim1991,Peterq and jacketheboy, they are all just wum accounts.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3270 - 16/06/2025 14:16:25
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Replying To sligo joe: "While I totally disagree that Galway would "eat Donegal alive" and it's smacks of a poor loser I do agree that the current Mayo team is a long way behind the Mayo team of circa 2016, with Keegan, Boyle, Higgins, Parsons, C O' Connor, Moran etc. The fact that they came out the wrong side of tight games against Dublin (a Dublin team that often had the likes of McManaman, McAuley, Brogan, Connolly etc on the bench!) doesn't mean the Mayo of that time were not one of the best squads of the last 20 years." That Mayo side also lost to a poor Galway team in Connacht on more than one occasion. People forget we benefited from very lucky draws in 2016 and 17 to reach those all Ireland finals. Say what you want about that Dublin team too but those finals were there to be won and we didn't get over the line because of our own mistakes (on the pitch and on the line).
So I don't think the current group of players are much worse at all in fact. Jack Coyne and David McBrien have had massive championship campaigns. Darren McHale and young Conall Dawson also stood up yesterday at times.
It's a young panel of players by and large and I feel getting over the winning line in a couple of these close championship games could make them. Armagh had this issue persistently until the Kerry semi final last year.
A new management team is undoubtedly required now as the current crew cannot seem to break the cycle.
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 470 - 16/06/2025 14:24:04
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Replying To Cumann1: "I know you have Belclare and tell us another sob story" You need help
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I think you should ignore the s1234,Jim1991,Peterq and jacketheboy, they are all just wum accounts." Yet you ignore WUMS like the one you are replying to?
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8445 - 16/06/2025 14:40:45
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Just looking back there at the finish of the match, the game was level, a few seconds till the hooter was going to blow,
if Mayo had dropped off and let Patton play it short to one of our defenders, the hooter blows and our lad kicks it into touch, game over, we still go through in second place,
instead Mayo were still pressing looking for the win and it backfired big style.
I thought Aidan O'Shea looked very dejected walking off, is this the last we'll see of him? he done well in that last play to get the equaliser.
Mayo aren't far away, but the lack of marquee forwards is Mayo's Achilles heel as always. Yew Tree says it's the worst Mayo team in 20 years, I don't agree.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3270 - 16/06/2025 14:46:54
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Replying To TheFlaker: "I am not a big fan of what ifs. Mayo have scored i think three 2 pointers in 6 games. It's an embarrassing stat. Despite what some people might think they are not a million miles away. But changes needed for sure." Would agree with that. Also can't ignore the fact that Mayo were forced into 3 substitutions due to injuries yesterday. Murphy wasn't really a factor in open play until McHugh got injured.
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 470 - 16/06/2025 14:53:50
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Yet you ignore WUMS like the one you are replying to?" It gets confusing on here lol. I don't know what kind of filter you'd need to block out the wums. Listen hard luck yesterday it was a sickening finish for Mayo fans, I can appreciate that all joking aside,
I see Yew Tree a very fair poster usually was a bit over the line last night after the game maybe let himself down a small bit but that defeat must have hurt like hell after so many more sickening finishes in recent years.
Fight on Mayo ye'll be back no doubt next year strong as ever.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3270 - 16/06/2025 14:58:51
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Just looking back there at the finish of the match, the game was level, a few seconds till the hooter was going to blow,
if Mayo had dropped off and let Patton play it short to one of our defenders, the hooter blows and our lad kicks it into touch, game over, we still go through in second place,
instead Mayo were still pressing looking for the win and it backfired big style.
I thought Aidan O'Shea looked very dejected walking off, is this the last we'll see of him? he done well in that last play to get the equaliser.
Mayo aren't far away, but the lack of marquee forwards is Mayo's Achilles heel as always. Yew Tree says it's the worst Mayo team in 20 years, I don't agree." The Mayo team from 2007-2010 and the 2018 team were worse, I think everyone would agree.
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 470 - 16/06/2025 14:59:25
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "One thing is definite in the GAA - the Rossie's will never be good enough. Obsessed with Mayo, yes. Good enough to compete with the best teams in the country - never." In the tone of Jimmy Sloyan " Simply not good enough " ..we'll be able to gonto the race together in.peace..chin up lad. Mayo for Sam 26 ..boom
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1146 - 16/06/2025 15:08:54
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