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Replying To Reformation:  "There is the possibility of being relegated on Sunday if we lose to Kerry and Mayo win also. Also, one more point could potentially keep us up if Mayo lose their last 2. Cant wait for next Sunday but it will take a monumental effort to beat this Kerry team. But im enjoying this journey immensely and hope that we can do it!"
Don't think 1 point can keep us up but 1 win can provided Mayo lose their last 2.. Away to Tyrone next week and at home to Donegal is no gimmie either.
It would be great to get another year in Div 1 we would learn so much from the experience.
Great result hopefully do wonders for players and management confidence .

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 20/03/2017 18:25:18    1969240

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Don't think 1 point can keep us up but 1 win can provided Mayo lose their last 2.. Away to Tyrone next week and at home to Donegal is no gimmie either.
It would be great to get another year in Div 1 we would learn so much from the experience.
Great result hopefully do wonders for players and management confidence ."
I thought that teams level on points would go to head to head and we have obviously beaten Mayo. But I may be wrong / heard that from someone in Castlebar. Anyway, im not sure that they will lose both games but would be nice to have a chance of survival heading down to the Hyde!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 20/03/2017 19:14:37    1969257

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Don't think 1 point can keep us up but 1 win can provided Mayo lose their last 2.. Away to Tyrone next week and at home to Donegal is no gimmie either.
It would be great to get another year in Div 1 we would learn so much from the experience.
Great result hopefully do wonders for players and management confidence ."
You are correct.... if Mayo loose their last 2 games and we pick up 1pt from our last 2 Mayo would go down on the head to head with both teams on 4pts... Let's just win our last 2 games and make sure of it....

Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 20/03/2017 19:18:38    1969260

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Don't think 1 point can keep us up but 1 win can provided Mayo lose their last 2.. Away to Tyrone next week and at home to Donegal is no gimmie either.
It would be great to get another year in Div 1 we would learn so much from the experience.
Great result hopefully do wonders for players and management confidence ."
Correct me if I'm wrong but 1 more point would put us ahead of Mayo on the head to head rule. That said I don't think Mayo will lose their next 2. I really think we need to get something against Kerry to stay up. That's a decent Mayo team despite what people say.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 20/03/2017 19:19:21    1969262

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Don't think 1 point can keep us up but 1 win can provided Mayo lose their last 2.. Away to Tyrone next week and at home to Donegal is no gimmie either.
It would be great to get another year in Div 1 we would learn so much from the experience.
Great result hopefully do wonders for players and management confidence ."
A point will keep us up if mayo lose their last 2.
It goes on head to head if 2 (and not more than 2) teams finish on 4 points.

But surely Dublin will beat roscommon with that unbeaten record at stake and points needed to make the final. Leaving ros with only pride to play for in the final game. So we should get more than the 1 point.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 20/03/2017 19:19:32    1969263

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Replying To seanorinn:  "cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts:2391 - 20/03/2017 12:22:19 1


I would forget about Ulster right now as I stated way back when this topic started staying in Division should be the only thing on anyones minds once the league is over we then concentrate on the next hurdle which is Ulster ect. The win yesterday was brilliant and Mayo have a far harder job than Cavan to stay in the division as it stands. They have Tyrone and Donegal and we have Kerry and Roscommon if we can take three points from these two matches I would say we are safe and even two points might be enough. Fingers crossed we stay up it will be like climbing mount everest and Cavan will benefit by playing in the top tier while building a stronger team."
Of course we want to stay up. No question.

But even mattie said before the match yesterday that this was a chance for lads to put their hand up for inclusion in the first round of ulster.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 20/03/2017 19:25:11    1969267

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Of course we want to stay up. No question.

But even mattie said before the match yesterday that this was a chance for lads to put their hand up for inclusion in the first round of ulster."
Loads of permutations but let's just think positive we need 3 from 4 to stay up it's that simple, no point in winning next Sunday Mayo losing and then to lose to Roscommon and for Mayo to win their last match so to keep it in our hands we have to try and win both matches and hope Mayo drop at least two points better if they lose both matches and Cavan if they lose next Sunday beat Roscommon. Anyway the best of luck and forget Ulster until the league is over. By the way the Ulster championship is not easy to win so don't raise your target too high for now one match at a time. They know what they have to do. ??

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2017 20:14:04    1969282

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Of course we want to stay up. No question.

But even mattie said before the match yesterday that this was a chance for lads to put their hand up for inclusion in the first round of ulster."
People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 20/03/2017 20:16:48    1969284

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads."
People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads.
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts:10092 - 20/03/2017 20:16:48 1969284

yes they have been our achilles heel for sure and I hope like you they turn it around as this is the most important match Cavan have had since 97

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2017 20:37:07    1969288

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yes Roscommon have been our bogey team over the last few years so i wouldn't be counting any chickens . the liklyhood is that Mayo Will get sometinng from their 2 remaining games, so we need to win both ours. A tall order indeed. Does anyone know when we last beat Kerry ??

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5496 - 20/03/2017 22:22:59    1969325

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Great Performance , Result and spirit on sunday. Sitting among the Mayo faithful they were surprised at the turn around , as i was myself. It is a long time since we beat one of the top teams in League or Championship. Gearoid was back to his best and mc vitty , M reilly were great ,very importantly Madden and Joe Dillon are giving us new forward options as real forwards. More good performances and a bit of luck required to stay up ,i certainly would'nt be underestimating the wounded animal that Roscommon will be after the Kerry game.Good to see the players have a return for all their effort , regards to them and Mr mc Gleenan.

eamonnmac (Cavan) - Posts: 59 - 20/03/2017 22:35:13    1969330

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Folks, we are still strong favourites for the drop back to Division 2. What I want over the next two games are performances on a par with last Sunday. If we can at least play the games on their respective merits and not be spooked by the colour of the jersey or certain players I will be happy. In the unlikely even that we win the two games we could still be relegated on 7 points, so it is still very much out of our hands.

With regards to Sunday, just a fantastic performance but it needs to be backed up, not just in the next two games but in the summer.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 21/03/2017 06:48:49    1969362

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Replying To kildare blue:  "Folks, we are still strong favourites for the drop back to Division 2. What I want over the next two games are performances on a par with last Sunday. If we can at least play the games on their respective merits and not be spooked by the colour of the jersey or certain players I will be happy. In the unlikely even that we win the two games we could still be relegated on 7 points, so it is still very much out of our hands.

With regards to Sunday, just a fantastic performance but it needs to be backed up, not just in the next two games but in the summer."
we cant be relegated on 7 points. To do that requires that we beat Kerry. That means they can only get to 7 also. Head to head would relegate them.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 21/03/2017 09:39:56    1969383

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Replying To sceptical:  "we cant be relegated on 7 points. To do that requires that we beat Kerry. That means they can only get to 7 also. Head to head would relegate them."
If we got 7 points and so did Kerry and Mayo then it's score difference rather than head to head. Only head to head if two teams on same points, score difference if 3 or more. So we could be relegated on 7.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 21/03/2017 10:30:39    1969400

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Replying To ponger:  ""Might not be happy reading for some posters here but I think we went back to terry Hyland's style of play & the lads seemed a lot more comfortable.".. Well Bond you are 100 percent correct and i LMFAO and all of a sudden we are now playing better football in most peoples eyes..even though we are fundamentally playing the same system...my god how people get tarnished with brushes.

Anyhow savage result and we still need to get our shooting boots on. What Mattie has done is added to the players as part of the transition from defence to attack. Under Terry it was mainly the job of M Reilly and Mc Vetty who carried ball through midfield, now he has added young Smith and a few other when the need arises which gives us more options. They are also inclined to let it go a bit quicker than carrying it.

As for the centre half back position, as much as i would like a traditional setup where the centre half back mows anything that comes down the middle it has become way more dynamic. Clarke, Moynagh & even K Brady filled it at times yesterday. .. so its looks like whoever is nearest

In the second, K O'Connor free taking probably showed where Mayo are at and done us a favour. The one he kicked from under the stand into the wind was only a 20% chance tops.."
We reverted to Terry Hylands style of play for the first 25 mins, and it bloody awful, hitting the opposition 45m line and turning back. It was when we reverted to Mattie McGleenons style of quick attacking football that things started looking up.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 489 - 21/03/2017 11:35:29    1969432

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "We reverted to Terry Hylands style of play for the first 25 mins, and it bloody awful, hitting the opposition 45m line and turning back. It was when we reverted to Mattie McGleenons style of quick attacking football that things started looking up."
Ah here, did you not see Dublin running down the clock in the exact same manner in Breffni against us? Its part of the game. I'd rather play down the clock and ensure the win than be the purists and risk losing the game.

Dora - i think you may be right about the score difference if 3 teams are level on points. 2 wins please lads!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 21/03/2017 12:19:26    1969444

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Replying To seanorinn:  "
Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads."
People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads.
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts:10092 - 20/03/2017 20:16:48 1969284

yes they have been our achilles heel for sure and I hope like you they turn it around as this is the most important match Cavan have had since 97"
Been in both a league division 1 final and an ulster final since 97 (losing both to tyrone) as well as an all ireland quarter final.

Not sure this is bigger.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 21/03/2017 12:23:31    1969446

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Replying To cavanman47:  "
Replying To seanorinn:  "[quote=Cavan_Slasher:  "People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads."
People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads.
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts:10092 - 20/03/2017 20:16:48 1969284

yes they have been our achilles heel for sure and I hope like you they turn it around as this is the most important match Cavan have had since 97"
Been in both a league division 1 final and an ulster final since 97 (losing both to tyrone) as well as an all ireland quarter final.

Not sure this is bigger."]Not sure this is bigger.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts:2398 - 21/03/2017 12:23:31

In my opinion it's streets ahead. This is our chance to stay and play against the best in the country next year. Remember if this were to happen the players will feed from it going forward.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 21/03/2017 14:04:47    1969509

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Replying To seanorinn:  "
Replying To cavanman47:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "[quote=Cavan_Slasher:  "People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads."
People thinking that we will beat Roscommon easily in Hyde Park need only look at our previous results in important matches against them. They have the hex on us when it matters. Hopefully it will come down to the last match anyway and maybe this time we will beat them in a big game BUT don't get carried away lads.
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts:10092 - 20/03/2017 20:16:48 1969284

yes they have been our achilles heel for sure and I hope like you they turn it around as this is the most important match Cavan have had since 97"
Been in both a league division 1 final and an ulster final since 97 (losing both to tyrone) as well as an all ireland quarter final.

Not sure this is bigger."]Not sure this is bigger.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts:2398 - 21/03/2017 12:23:31

In my opinion it's streets ahead. This is our chance to stay and play against the best in the country next year. Remember if this were to happen the players will feed from it going forward."]totally agree, this is far bigger. its bigger because this is important for the development of the squad. The quarter final was a great achievement but realistically that was as far as that adventure was going to go and in 2002 league final we were pretty much an established division 1 team (I was only 12 at the time so i could be wrong)...... however I appreciate that they were coming of the back of a ulster final appearance.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 21/03/2017 15:47:22    1969558

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Replying To Reformation:  "Ah here, did you not see Dublin running down the clock in the exact same manner in Breffni against us? Its part of the game. I'd rather play down the clock and ensure the win than be the purists and risk losing the game.

Dora - i think you may be right about the score difference if 3 teams are level on points. 2 wins please lads!"
I was impressed with how we held ball for last three minutes in injury time and ran clock down. And an Ulster final is much bigger than staying in division 1. It's all about championship.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 21/03/2017 16:00:26    1969563

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