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Cavan v Monaghan

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Replying To MadgeKing:  "Looks like its going to be a dirty wet day. That will suit Cavan better.
The win is on... Cavan by 2-3 points, and a couple of goals making the difference."
How do you make out that a 'dirty wet day' would suit Cavan better...? When do they play well in those conditions ... I hope I am wrong but I can't see this team beating Monaghan wet or dry day... It has all the makings of a dire defence struggle and if you add rain on top of that God help us all....

Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 11/06/2017 10:21:16    1997807

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The lads crying for Terry hyland to be sacked need to eat humble pie today. Maybe 1 qualifier win then back to next year, still building yeah?

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 437 - 11/06/2017 15:37:48    1997900

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The lads crying for Terry hyland to be sacked need to eat humble pie today. Maybe 1 qualifier win then back to next year, still building yeah?

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 437 - 11/06/2017 15:38:33    1997901

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Such a shame the jumped out of the way to allow Mcmanus score the goal, we could have won if he stood his ground. We have a few very good players, mackey, flaukner, mcvitty but too many passengers also

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 272 - 11/06/2017 15:46:01    1997903

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Haven't changed very much since Terry left.
No decent forward, Gearoid failed to show when needed again.
Monaghan had the legs and the better bench.
Unlucky at the end.
Might get a run in the back door.
Hopefully we can keep the team together.

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 11/06/2017 16:04:19    1997908

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Replying To JamsieMac:  "The lads crying for Terry hyland to be sacked need to eat humble pie today. Maybe 1 qualifier win then back to next year, still building yeah?"
Why? Hyland had two chances to beat Monaghan and lost on both occasions. It was time for a change.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1063 - 11/06/2017 16:11:47    1997912

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Pretty much as I expected. It was a formality for Monaghan, show up, professional performance, wait for an opportunity to land a killer blow and crucially, they have the quality of player to do it with McManus getting the goal.

Look lads, the reality is anyone who thought we were gonna beat Monaghan today was sorely deluded. They are clearly a better team than us, and have been for a few years now. The bookies are rarely wrong, and I think most posters here agreed we were more hopeful than expectant, only for a silly minority to hi-jack the threads and talk us up as world beaters. We're far from it as we've just seen.

Going forward, I expect nothing to change. We will continue to apply the Cavan solution to the Cavan football problem i.e. bury our heads in the sand about the dire standard of club football in the county, and continue to wonder why we can't produce good forwards.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1063 - 11/06/2017 16:18:15    1997914

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Replying To Virginia:  "Haven't changed very much since Terry left.
No decent forward, Gearoid failed to show when needed again.
Monaghan had the legs and the better bench.
Unlucky at the end.
Might get a run in the back door.
Hopefully we can keep the team together."
It was a good game with the difference been monaghan seem to be fit to change the gears when needed.
One point from play in the second half for Cavan will not win any games and they didnt have enough of work done in the first half with the wind.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 11/06/2017 16:22:42    1997917

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Replying To Ned_Stormcrow:  "Why? Hyland had two chances to beat Monaghan and lost on both occasions. It was time for a change."
Go have a look at Mayo Galway game, last time we played both these teams we beat them. The ability is there. Terry was defensive but today's set up with the wind was lunacy. It looked like a rugby line up for most of the game.

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 437 - 11/06/2017 16:30:43    1997924

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Replying To Ned_Stormcrow:  "Why? Hyland had two chances to beat Monaghan and lost on both occasions. It was time for a change."
My point being we haven't changed, in fact it's gone backwards.

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 437 - 11/06/2017 16:34:31    1997926

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Replying To JamsieMac:  "Go have a look at Mayo Galway game, last time we played both these teams we beat them. The ability is there. Terry was defensive but today's set up with the wind was lunacy. It looked like a rugby line up for most of the game."
We caught Mayo on an off day, and Galway have improved hugely since we last played them and are a better team than us now.

Look, there's a reason we haven't won anything in 20 years and that is simply because we're not producing the standard of players that other counties do. The population is too small, and the number of clubs is too large. Unity is a force multiplier, and the club scene needs a total overhaul. But that won't happen, and there will be many, many more days like today, just as there has been for decades now.

For a county with virtually no other sport to compete with, it's a poor indictment on us that we can't compete for a provincial title.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1063 - 11/06/2017 17:16:11    1997948

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Cavan had to work hard for the scores. A few good long range points. Monaghan more slicker attacking with a quality finisher in McManus. They created 3 goal chances, great block on Duffy in first half and a wonder save by Galligan.

Connolly unlucky at the end. Some of the star names on the Cavan team get too much hype.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2580 - 11/06/2017 18:09:06    1997976

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Replying To JamsieMac:  "Go have a look at Mayo Galway game, last time we played both these teams we beat them. The ability is there. Terry was defensive but today's set up with the wind was lunacy. It looked like a rugby line up for most of the game."

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 272 - 11/06/2017 18:22:50    1997990

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Replying To JamsieMac:  "Go have a look at Mayo Galway game, last time we played both these teams we beat them. The ability is there. Terry was defensive but today's set up with the wind was lunacy. It looked like a rugby line up for most of the game."
Go have a look at Mayo Galway game, last time we played both these teams we beat them. The ability is there. Terry was defensive but today's set up with the wind was lunacy. It looked like a rugby line up for most of the game.
JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts:328 - 11/06/2017 16:30:43 1997924

Stop kidding yourself, the ability isn't there. We simply do not have enough footballers of high enough quality. We have 3 or 4 very good players but the rest are bang average for county standard. Look at today, how many of our players would get in Monaghan's 15? Flaukner, Mackey, Macvitty? That's about it. I'm afraid to say we are a below average side, westmeath or offaly will prove a difficult test

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 272 - 11/06/2017 18:27:31    1997993

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Hi Guys... Its the same 3 to 4 guys on here that are keeping Cavan Football alive... lt's dead on the field of play... What star players have Cavan produced? What have these Star Players delivered on? Within the county you might have star players!!! Peter Canavan delivered a good article in the Irish Independent last Friday... Sure, what would he know about football... its a terror to see Cavan staunch men on here, talking up, what we don't have, nothing coming through in the near future!!! Maybe Hyland was right, he got the best out of whatever.... Excuses year in and and year out won't bring success!!!!

It appeared to have been a make shift team that started that game today... Why was there a number of guys given a jersey today, in vital positions? They were never going to contribute anything in championship football... Ah sure. What else have we got to throw in???

Cavan County football team going forward. Its n serious trouble.....

upandcomingblue (Cavan) - Posts: 37 - 11/06/2017 18:36:25    1997995

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Ramor united are senior and under 21 champions but I can't understand why there's only one player on the team.
Surely to god there's a decent forward in the county????
Can't fault the players for effort but as another poster said ,Monaghan have McManus and we don't.
There in lies the problem.
The pundits on RTE said that Monaghan have more experienced players and a better bench.
Monaghan had a game under their belt.
I hope we can keep the team together as I feel we can beat either Offaly or Westmeath.

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 11/06/2017 19:25:06    1998027

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Replying To JamsieMac:  "My point being we haven't changed, in fact it's gone backwards."
It's embarrassing how we can't beat anyone even half decent in the championship. It's the definition of lunacy doing the same thing year in and year out and expecting a different result. Did Mattie McGleenan ever see Cavan playing before he came here? He is doing the exact same thing Hyland did 3 years again and calling it progress. No forward play developed. Our refusal to trust big men to do a job is laughable at this stage - why we're Madden and Buchanan taken off today? The only match I've seen is going for and winning with a bit of style was Derry in 2013. otherwise it has been 16 years of dross. A great opportunity to progress was squandered today with a mediocre and disjointed performance. It's so diappointing and frustrating.

BlueHeaven (Cavan) - Posts: 75 - 11/06/2017 19:32:28    1998032

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Replying To Virginia:  "Ramor united are senior and under 21 champions but I can't understand why there's only one player on the team.
Surely to god there's a decent forward in the county????
Can't fault the players for effort but as another poster said ,Monaghan have McManus and we don't.
There in lies the problem.
The pundits on RTE said that Monaghan have more experienced players and a better bench.
Monaghan had a game under their belt.
I hope we can keep the team together as I feel we can beat either Offaly or Westmeath."
What Ramor players would you play? Jack left panel, Ado wouldn't go in, Bradley not around. The best team in Cavan are the Gaels and some of our starting 15 wouldn't get in their team. Mackey still our best player and he's 30. Need other lads to stand up. Another Ulster Championship where G McKiernan anonymous. Ciaran Brady very good when he came in. Fergal Reilly done a great job man marking in league and against Monaghan and he sitting on bench. Playing defensive with the wind made no sense what so ever.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 11/06/2017 19:58:20    1998047

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Replying To Virginia:  "Ramor united are senior and under 21 champions but I can't understand why there's only one player on the team.
Surely to god there's a decent forward in the county????
Can't fault the players for effort but as another poster said ,Monaghan have McManus and we don't.
There in lies the problem.
The pundits on RTE said that Monaghan have more experienced players and a better bench.
Monaghan had a game under their belt.
I hope we can keep the team together as I feel we can beat either Offaly or Westmeath."
Calm down, Ramor are nothing special either, it's just a poor championship that we have.

Out of interest what forward do you suggest we bring in?

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 272 - 11/06/2017 20:14:53    1998071

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Can't understand why Moynagh didn't just haul down McManus ??? Take one for the team sort of thing.
He lost the ball on 2 or 3 times in the first half too when we were attacking but scored a good point as well.
Thought some of the boys who were playing poorly were not replaced soon enough.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 11/06/2017 20:21:18    1998078

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