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Cavan v Monaghan

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Replying To Shelbourne:  "Replying To Shelbourne: "Replying To Shelbourne: "I see Monaghan players lined out with their clubs today in contrast to Cavan's.
Any views from Cavan supporters on which is the correct approach given that we have already lost Darren Hughes & young McGinn to injuries.
May the best team win in Breffni !"


Monaghan's approach. At least your players won't go in cold.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:911 - 28/05/2017 18:11:38

Monaghan's certainly the more courageous approach but what about injuries to key players ?"
Can get injured in training. Playing matches only way to keep match sharp and fit.


doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:912 - 28/05/2017 20:41:40 199

Even Donegal players lined out with their clubs yesterday.......previously they were the worst culprits of cancelling club games. So it seem Cavan are in the minority with their approach."
Yeah sure the Dubs are at the quarter final stages at this stage and some big clubs gone already. Its not as if the ref's don't protect the county men here either. But nothing beats October club championship games in Cavan and league playoffs and finals in December!!!!

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 29/05/2017 12:48:03    1991794

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Replying To Shelbourne: "Replying To Shelbourne: "Replying To Shelbourne: "I see Monaghan players lined out with their clubs today in contrast to Cavan's.
Any views from Cavan supporters on which is the correct approach given that we have already lost Darren Hughes & young McGinn to injuries.
May the best team win in Breffni !"

Monaghan's approach. At least your players won't go in cold.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:911 - 28/05/2017 18:11:38

Monaghan's certainly the more courageous approach but what about injuries to key players ?"
Can get injured in training. Playing matches only way to keep match sharp and fit.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:912 - 28/05/2017 20:41:40 199

Even Donegal players lined out with their clubs yesterday.......previously they were the worst culprits of cancelling club games. So it seem Cavan are in the minority with their approach."
Yeah sure the Dubs are at the quarter final stages at this stage and some big clubs gone already. Its not as if the ref's don't protect the county men here either. But nothing beats October club championship games in Cavan and league playoffs and finals in December!!!!

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts:320 - 29/05/2017 12:48:03 19917


I find it hard to believe that Cavan club players and true gaels in the county would agree with you there cavan97

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 29/05/2017 13:41:29    1991814

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Shelbourne, I think he was being sarcastic ;)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 29/05/2017 13:56:12    1991823

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Cavan have no real attacking threat.
Monaghan have a very real attacking threat..

Monaghan by 4..

Steady Eddie Strikes Again!!!

Steady_Eddie (Cavan) - Posts: 75 - 30/05/2017 08:46:50    1992026

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Cavan can win & Monaghan will be favourites.........whoever plays best on the day....simple as !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 30/05/2017 11:58:24    1992114

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I hear Tom Hayes and Jack Brady have also left the panel. They seem to be dropping like flies.

BootIt (Cavan) - Posts: 136 - 31/05/2017 09:09:48    1992500

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As far as club games for county players go,you are damnded if you do,damnded if you dont,I see Donegal's decision to play the club games may come back to haunt them with concerning injuries to Michael Murphy and Neil McGee in the same club game.You would imagine that the in house games in the weeks leading to championship are very intense and helter skelter so chance of injury might even be higher at county training than in playing a soft league match where the county player can mind himself. Anyway,the word is that McAveety will not make it on time for the big day which obviously is a huge loss.Earlier poster said more players have left the panel,i sincerely hope this is not the case as if that is true the team spirit doesn't sound too healthy,can anyone shed any light on this.Our biggest positions to fill are full back--do you go with Faulkner or Killian Clarke, in midfield do you go with McKiernan,Faulkner,Buchanan along with Corr--our problem is we need McKiernan upfront and Faulkner and Killian at the back,I think we should play Dillon and McDermott upfront along with Niall Clerkin and play Mackey,M Reilly and ? in half forwards(otherhalf forward would have been McAveety), who do we play as sweeper,will it be Moynagh,ideally it would be and may well be M reilly but we are looking for 4 or 5 marquee players to be cloned.Who will man mark inside,Gunner probably will do one and i feel J McLoughlin will do other,another big loss has been Fergal Flanagan for this job,will Fergal Reilly start? Where will Rory Dunne play?Is N Murray and S Murray out injured too? Lots to chew on.

celt2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 160 - 31/05/2017 09:42:37    1992514

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Replying To BootIt:  "I hear Tom Hayes and Jack Brady have also left the panel. They seem to be dropping like flies."
The squad is bloated with all the u21s called in so some lads would be part of squad but not near matchday squad.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 31/05/2017 17:49:39    1992754

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Replying To celt2018:  "As far as club games for county players go,you are damnded if you do,damnded if you dont,I see Donegal's decision to play the club games may come back to haunt them with concerning injuries to Michael Murphy and Neil McGee in the same club game.You would imagine that the in house games in the weeks leading to championship are very intense and helter skelter so chance of injury might even be higher at county training than in playing a soft league match where the county player can mind himself. Anyway,the word is that McAveety will not make it on time for the big day which obviously is a huge loss.Earlier poster said more players have left the panel,i sincerely hope this is not the case as if that is true the team spirit doesn't sound too healthy,can anyone shed any light on this.Our biggest positions to fill are full back--do you go with Faulkner or Killian Clarke, in midfield do you go with McKiernan,Faulkner,Buchanan along with Corr--our problem is we need McKiernan upfront and Faulkner and Killian at the back,I think we should play Dillon and McDermott upfront along with Niall Clerkin and play Mackey,M Reilly and ? in half forwards(otherhalf forward would have been McAveety), who do we play as sweeper,will it be Moynagh,ideally it would be and may well be M reilly but we are looking for 4 or 5 marquee players to be cloned.Who will man mark inside,Gunner probably will do one and i feel J McLoughlin will do other,another big loss has been Fergal Flanagan for this job,will Fergal Reilly start? Where will Rory Dunne play?Is N Murray and S Murray out injured too? Lots to chew on."
Flanagan wouldn't handle any of those 3 Monaghan forwards.

Faulkner completely shut McManus down in the league and can do so again.
Mcloughlin would be well capable if keeping McCarran scoreless too.
McCarthy is young and yet to play a derby of this magnitude (open to correction) but I think Reilly deserves to start based on league form.

Gerry Smith is the half forward you are missing. He's the closest we have to mcvitty so needs to play if dara doesn't make it.

It'll be packed defences on both sides so it's up to who can break fastest and create overlaps. We retreat very quickly and get the bodies into the 45 before making the tackles and I think that perfectly counters the running game Monaghan beat fermanagh with.

We'll keep them to a low score, I'm fully confident if that. Its where we get our scores from that concerns me. Need to nail the frees (McDermott and McKiernan well able to do The And need midfielders chipping in with scores ala Castlebar in the league.

It's going to be a tough tight game, not for the feint hearted, but one we can certainly win!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 01/06/2017 09:42:00    1992908

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Look it's a game Cavan are capable of winning . We all get caught up in how good monaghan are and how poor we are . We are not a poor team . I believe we can beat Monaghan . It's always close . I will support my team . Please stop the negativity and get behind the team . Cavan by 2

Breffinifan (Cavan) - Posts: 91 - 01/06/2017 12:33:13    1993012

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Replying To Breffinifan:  "Look it's a game Cavan are capable of winning . We all get caught up in how good monaghan are and how poor we are . We are not a poor team . I believe we can beat Monaghan . It's always close . I will support my team . Please stop the negativity and get behind the team . Cavan by 2"
Excellent post - the future is blue lads and so has the past. No matter how good Monaghan think they are, we must never forget that we are Cavan. We have all ireland medals in our blood and these Monaghan lads are nearly and never been men. I am predicting a 4 point win, Seanie will open up the monaghan defence and get 6 - 8 points. that is where our scores will come from.

foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 01/06/2017 13:28:35    1993052

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I have to admit you's are very optimistic ahead of the game. Sure why not - Since 2010 Cavan have played 11 Ulster Championship games and won 3.

27% win rate in Ulster in 7 years ...and not to mention Monaghan have won the previous 2 Ulster Championship games. June 11th can't come quick enough.

kupa (Monaghan) - Posts: 281 - 01/06/2017 14:48:04    1993089

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Replying To foxes_denn:  "Excellent post - the future is blue lads and so has the past. No matter how good Monaghan think they are, we must never forget that we are Cavan. We have all ireland medals in our blood and these Monaghan lads are nearly and never been men. I am predicting a 4 point win, Seanie will open up the monaghan defence and get 6 - 8 points. that is where our scores will come from."
Memories of the Polo Grounds and 1947 whistle in the wind and still our childish play!!! I was wondering when the golden era of Cavan football would be wheeled out.

farneyFlaps (Monaghan) - Posts: 31 - 01/06/2017 15:39:02    1993109

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Replying To foxes_denn:  "Excellent post - the future is blue lads and so has the past. No matter how good Monaghan think they are, we must never forget that we are Cavan. We have all ireland medals in our blood and these Monaghan lads are nearly and never been men. I am predicting a 4 point win, Seanie will open up the monaghan defence and get 6 - 8 points. that is where our scores will come from."
Seanie will hardly start.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 01/06/2017 16:01:30    1993119

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Any truth in the rumor that jack Brady has left the squad and maybe Mackey too ?

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 01/06/2017 16:21:26    1993129

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Replying To farneyFlaps:  "Memories of the Polo Grounds and 1947 whistle in the wind and still our childish play!!! I was wondering when the golden era of Cavan football would be wheeled out."
Look, we know it has no relevance to next week's game.

Still tho. . .nice to have a golden era to wheel out ;)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4702 - 01/06/2017 16:41:36    1993142

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Replying To kupa:  "I have to admit you's are very optimistic ahead of the game. Sure why not - Since 2010 Cavan have played 11 Ulster Championship games and won 3.

27% win rate in Ulster in 7 years ...and not to mention Monaghan have won the previous 2 Ulster Championship games. June 11th can't come quick enough."
You have to be optimistic. That's the nature of sport. Let the neutrals offer unbiased insight but the rest of us enjoy the occasion. Must have a boring life to come onto forum to shi# on our cornflakes.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 01/06/2017 17:58:21    1993186

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I know any team can pull off a shock on the day, but I have to say that monaghan starting 15 bar Shane Carey maybe have got their positions locked down, and arguably final 15 on field are as
Strong or stronger than starting 15. Monaghan have to be favourites on the man to man battles. Too many questions for Cavan to answer all over the field, players best positions and roles are not certain.

Don't get me wrong Cavan have some top
Footballers, but Monaghan are the more settled team.

Monaghan by 6

supermon (Monaghan) - Posts: 1073 - 01/06/2017 18:07:09    1993192

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Look, we know it has no relevance to next week's game.

Still tho. . .nice to have a golden era to wheel out ;)"
☺very true, important to remember the past, just don't end up living there!!!
Anyway will be tight game,always is. Monaghan on paper should win but no guarantees

farneyFlaps (Monaghan) - Posts: 31 - 01/06/2017 18:09:11    1993194

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Replying To foxes_denn: "Excellent post - the future is blue lads and so has the past. No matter how good Monaghan think they are, we must never forget that we are Cavan. We have all ireland medals in our blood and these Monaghan lads are nearly and never been men. I am predicting a 4 point win, Seanie will open up the monaghan defence and get 6 - 8 points. that is where our scores will come from

We can live in the past or face reality ! The last All ireland medals were so long ago that none of the team the played are still alive.
Our last silverware was 20 years ago !!

Monaghan have a better team. We are over training, unsettled and apparently lads leaving the squad.
I hope we win but honestly, I think we'll be lucky to get within 4 points of monaghan.

As for Seanie opening up the Monaghan defence, simple sweeper will KO Seanie as he will sit on the edge of the square and expect the ball on his chest.
Sj never has and never will win dirty ball nor chase it !!! Handy scores or frees are his specialty, but the modern game negates this type of player very easily.

All this BS about a derby game, our glorious past, it being in Breffni etc is all hype, building it up with no real substance behind it. We have about 6 good players and the rest are average.

Maybe I'm being negative, but show me the stats that say i should be any other way !!!

FrDougalMaguire (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 02/06/2017 11:27:57    1993447

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