Looks very tidy

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 25/11/2011 20:09:40    1075833

With a county steeped in tradition it is appauling that we have a ground as ancient as it is.where has all the money gone from tickets from games such as meath v galway,meath v kildare and the county finals.

ClonardLad (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 27/11/2011 20:38:28    1076471

ClonardLad

Firstly, tradition has no bearing on the state of the ground. Nobody has any Devine right to have something without working for it..
The ground has been neglected for years, and so it's in the state it's in now. You reap what you so.

As for questioning where the money from gate receipts goes. I'd imagine a lot is going toward dunganny and the running of teams and so on.
It would take much more that gate receipts to build a stadium, it will need a huge cash injection from somewhere to get the project moving.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 27/11/2011 21:35:53    1076505

they should have done the stadium instead of dunganny

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 28/11/2011 17:09:43    1076781

@ srgt_slaughter

Thats ridiculous. Dunganny had to get priority. That is where the funding went and it was well spent. (See my earlier post). I would be delighted if the Sponsor that the lads are talking about would be accepted. It would mean changing the name to ***** **** Park ala Navan RFC. Not sure why they werent accepted last time, maybe Comer came in with a higher bid?

Alias (Tipperary) - Posts: 463 - 29/11/2011 15:18:56    1077221

I think the agreement with comer was somewhere in the region of €250k per year. Which was a good deal to get given the times. I haven't a clue what the other offers were on the table at the time.
The only problem was that it was only a 2 year deal. Logic should have let to the co board spending the ten years finding a long term sponsor.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 29/11/2011 16:24:37    1077292

I think de problem is that if there is a fire in any of the venues stated that there is no safety procedure implemented to deal with such an incident so this report states? Lets be honest thou..Is cutting the staduims capacity to 10,000 really going to solve the problem?If anything it will create an overcrowded venue that will not be enjoyable . Finally, Páirc Táilteain has been around for countless decades and has there ever been one incident where peoples lives have been at risk? NO! Enough of the crap and stop looking for things to do!

baba_blue (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 29/11/2011 17:46:03    1077376

They should go ahead with Dunganny and try to sell Pairc T

pop306 (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 04/12/2011 15:28:24    1079707

Unfortunately local land owners complain about them building dressing rooms in Dunganny, never mind a full sized stadium.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 04/12/2011 15:35:56    1079714

pop306
County: Meath
Posts: 5

1079707
They should go ahead with Dunganny and try to sell Pairc T


Sell it? To who? 10 years ago maybe, but now? Are you serious?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 04/12/2011 16:13:24    1079742

baba_blue
County: Meath
Posts: 8

Finally, Páirc Táilteain has been around for countless decades and has there ever been one incident where peoples lives have been at risk? NO! Enough of the crap and stop looking for things to do!

From Wiki: On 11 May 1985, one of the worst sporting disasters occurred at Valley Parade. Fifty-six people died and at least 265 were injured when the main stand was engulfed by fire. The fire started 40 minutes into the club's final game of the 1984-85 season against Lincoln City and destroyed the main stand in just nine minutes. The wooden roof, which was covered with tarpaulin and sealed with asphalt and bitumen, caught fire. The material combined with a strong wind to spread the fire along the stand creating the impression of a fireball, setting fire to the entire stand. Burning timbers and molten materials fell from the roof onto the crowd and seating below, and black smoke enveloped a passageway behind the stand, where many spectators were trying to escape. It took less than four minutes for the entire stand to be engulfed in flames.

Just because nothing really serious has ever happened in the past, doesn't mean it will not happen in the future (if things left as they currently are). Whatever reasons the county board have for not having a modern stadium (e.g. lack of funds, vision, leadership etc), there is no excuse for still having a roof and seating which represents a fire hazard. It is just not acceptable in this day and age. To allow things to get to this stage and continue to do so is disrespectful to all those they charge to sit in the stand. It is time to take responsibility and nullify the risk of a tragedy. To ignore doing so shows contempt for all folk that pass through PT.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 04/12/2011 17:15:50    1079781

Just watching the Kerry & Armagh league match on TG4 and noticing that the grass bank in Tralee is in use and has a decent crowd on it, wonder what's the difference between grass banks in Navan and Tralee?? If they shut ours down, and I agree that they should be terraced properly, then surely they should all be shut down, no consistency again it seems!!

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 12/02/2012 18:45:00    1110125

Even Westmeath's county ground however smaller (more compact) is more up to date than PT. The WH co board saw us royals coming today and made sure to charge 13 yoyo's at the gate.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 12/02/2012 19:06:14    1110159

Richieq
County: Meath
Posts: 881

It's a very simple reason. Location and proximity to Dublin.

The grass banks were NEVER a concern for h&s before. The amount of barriers on the terrace was never an issue for h&s.

But suddenly when the GAA want to push the idea of a new stadium off the m50 for Dublin Meath and Kildare to share, then they find problems. Same with newbridge. The had no problems packing the crowds in for qualifiers in the past, yet h&s now have problem and won't allow more than 4 or 5k.

These are the only too grounds to have their capacities slashed by so much.

Hyde park in Roscommon and cusack park in Ennis both had reviews and no problems, even tho both are in poor nick (exception of the main stand in Hyde pk) and Ennis is much worse than Navan. Waterfords ground is in poor nick. Aughrim is shocking poor. Ardfinnan is very poor. Parts of markevics pk in Sligo are really poor.
There's many poor too, and as you pointed out, grass banks in Tralee too, but they are all too far to be forced play home games in Dublin, so it doesn't matter. Nothing will be said.
But the GAA really want to push the joint stadium venture off the m50 for Meath, Kildare and Dublin to share, rather than help the individual counties do up their own ground.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 12/02/2012 19:10:09    1110161

GlasagusOr
County: Meath
Posts: 395

1110159
Even Westmeath's county ground however smaller (more compact) is more up to date than PT. The WH co board saw us royals coming today and made sure to charge 13 yoyo's at the gate.


In fairness that's set from croke park. As much as they'd love to take the bit out of our mouths, they had no say in that one.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 12/02/2012 19:16:51    1110171

Jinxie, I think I was only charged a tenner into PT for the Monaghan match. Maybe I'm mixing things up with the O'Byrne cup and after all the excitement of an away league win! Maybe the co boards have some degree of discretion or am I delusional!

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 12/02/2012 19:26:49    1110188

To be fair the seating is a disgrace,anyone ever come home with dried paint from the seating on their clothes?? I have been saying this for a long-time,we should look at the Tullamore model,also that pillar in the main stand is very annoying..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/02/2012 19:52:50    1110237

Ziggy
While I agree with your post the state of ones cloths coming from a match is secondary to to furore that will be heard if and when an accident happens. In my opinion it is only a matter of time before an Ibrox type disaster happens in some GAA stadium. Maybe not PT but it will happen somewhere. If and when that happens I don't want it to be PT. However we in Meath are not in a position to influence what happens in other counties other than to boycott their stadia if we don't like them. I also agree with many of the comments made about a proposed joint stadium of the M50. What we have in Navan is a poor stand, a first class terrace (never saw much wrong with the barriers myself) and two antiquated grass mounds which, particularly on a wet day are a real disaster waiting to happen. True, we should have been making more of this as far back as the seventies but we got away with it. The GAA,s luck on this matter won't last forever and when it runs out we will have all the begrudgers in the country saying I told you so. Do we want to wait for a Saturday evening in July in some future year when we play a qualifier to have the eyes of the country, and even the world, on us as we try to resuscitate scores of fans who get crushed because of some unfortunate incident. In Ibrox it was all fit young men who should have been able to look out for themselves. But at qualifiers we have families including young mothers with very young children, even babies in their arms. What hope have they. For God's sake lets upgrade this fine old ground before the name of Pairc Tailteann is forever linked with Ibrox, Heysel and Hillsborough. We cannot do it all at once but we can make a start and I know that genuine Meath fans will support such a project.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 13/02/2012 19:45:31    1111097

Pairc Tailteann is moving up in the world!

From egg and spoon and sack races as a kid in De Le Salle school sports day, to American football!

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/1602122203-navan-to-host-high-school-american-football/

Hopefully this may act as a catalyst to get some work done. Wonder would Joe or Graham get a game?

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 17/02/2012 08:39:34    1113323

Yeah it might warrant a lick of paint and speed up the removal of the grass banks

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 17/02/2012 09:21:49    1113340