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Hard luck to our young lads still a great year for the Meath under 17, wasn't at match just followed it on twitter was anyone at it ?

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 09/08/2017 20:55:10    2031758

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Looked to be competitive enough until the last few minutes. Anyone at it that can give a decent run down?

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 09/08/2017 20:58:20    2031759

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "disappointing result,anyone at it? thought it would be much closer. perhaps leinster was not that strong?"
Couldn't make the game but according to what I hear they were very nervous in the early going and never really recovered from a bad start, were largely competitive after the first 20 but gave themselves too much to do, Tyrone always able to get scores to pull away

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 09/08/2017 21:34:29    2031773

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I was at it, a very very poor performance unfortunately, they played with double sweepers as expected yet we tried to kick it into the inside line, today we badly needed hard running at their defence as the ref was as soft and ruining the game but we didn't do it. Cian McBride got a black very early on for a stupid body check in front of the ref. All in all very disappointing and probably deserved to lose by more. But a Leinster title at this level and wins over Dublin x2 and Kildare is a good start and hopefully the 20's and 17's will have further success next year

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 09/08/2017 22:07:50    2031779

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "I was at it, a very very poor performance unfortunately, they played with double sweepers as expected yet we tried to kick it into the inside line, today we badly needed hard running at their defence as the ref was as soft and ruining the game but we didn't do it. Cian McBride got a black very early on for a stupid body check in front of the ref. All in all very disappointing and probably deserved to lose by more. But a Leinster title at this level and wins over Dublin x2 and Kildare is a good start and hopefully the 20's and 17's will have further success next year"
would you say we are capable of beating tyrone or are they a class above? also do our coaches know what to do when we come up against these tactics?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/08/2017 22:14:21    2031782

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Missed the first 15 minutes, Meath did well to stay in touch Tyrone looked very strong. Meath isolated there forward two man forward line and where not able to link up with them. We could have been smarter with our own kicks out kick a lot long and lost them. We where always struggling we need a goal badly and it never came. Better team won.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 09/08/2017 22:18:18    2031783

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "would you say we are capable of beating tyrone or are they a class above? also do our coaches know what to do when we come up against these tactics?"
Probably would have still lost but we didn't play at all. With the double sweeper balls into the inside forwards wasn't going to cut it. Both our midfielders, McBride, O'Connell when he came on, they are very big but aren't fast and won't break down a defence. So the Tyrone system required a running game and we hadn't the players to play it

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 09/08/2017 23:03:11    2031795

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "would you say we are capable of beating tyrone or are they a class above? also do our coaches know what to do when we come up against these tactics?"
Probably would have still lost but we didn't play at all. With the double sweeper balls into the inside forwards wasn't going to cut it. Both our midfielders, McBride, O'Connell when he came on, they are very big but aren't fast and won't break down a defence. So the Tyrone system required a running game and we hadn't the players to play it

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 09/08/2017 23:03:11    2031796

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Probably would have still lost but we didn't play at all. With the double sweeper balls into the inside forwards wasn't going to cut it. Both our midfielders, McBride, O'Connell when he came on, they are very big but aren't fast and won't break down a defence. So the Tyrone system required a running game and we hadn't the players to play it"
Wasn't at match. So only going on what you wrote . But do you think we would have made a closer game of it if we played possession football, maybe getting a few more frees etc, rather than letting the ball in?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/08/2017 07:40:04    2031827

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Missed the first 15 minutes, Meath did well to stay in touch Tyrone looked very strong. Meath isolated there forward two man forward line and where not able to link up with them. We could have been smarter with our own kicks out kick a lot long and lost them. We where always struggling we need a goal badly and it never came. Better team won."
Same as, God Virginia needs to be bypassed. Tyrone were comfortably the better team and but for the Meath keeper would have won by a lot more, cut Meath open very easy at times. On another note I thought it was going to be free entry into the game last night, must say Kingspan Park is a lovely stadium.

AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 10/08/2017 09:07:17    2031838

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Unfortunately another step to an All Ireland not taken .
Tactics appeared to be totally wrong , Tyrone pushed up on our kick outs , at a number of times in the game there were 10 Tyrone players in the Meath half, and when we gained possession and moved the ball out to our Midfield , it got slowed down significantly instead of moving it quickly into the Meath forward line, when it was moved quickly we won possession.so much so that we were still in the hunt The Midfield arena appeared to be told to handpass the ball a lot ( to death when in possession ) and every which way except forward, even backwards at times . This allowed the Tyrone players to get back in numbers and defend . Some fine defending from some off our defenders Ryan , Bannon ( until he went of injured ) , indeed they appeared to be the main driving force on the team . As our MF persisted in the tactic of holding onto the ball too long, allowing Tyrone to funnel back into defense . However we appear to have been set up naively , and didn't identify that a fast running game was what we required to deal with the system employed against us . Any way its a bell has been rung and nothing that can be done to change that . Well done to the U17 team on achieving a Leinster Championship this year . "In the freezing dark any flicker of light is welcoming " And that is not to deride the success of the Junior team. Well done to both Leinster champions .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 10/08/2017 09:12:54    2031840

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "would you say we are capable of beating tyrone or are they a class above? also do our coaches know what to do when we come up against these tactics?"
We didn't identify the Tyrone tactics , and did not appear to have a clue how to counteract them .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 10/08/2017 09:14:42    2031841

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Replying To pauk123:  "Looked to be competitive enough until the last few minutes. Anyone at it that can give a decent run down?"
Not correct Paul , the intensity from the Leinster final was never there

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 10/08/2017 09:15:32    2031842

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Wasn't at match. So only going on what you wrote . But do you think we would have made a closer game of it if we played possession football, maybe getting a few more frees etc, rather than letting the ball in?"
They didn't let the ball in , anytime they did we generally won possession or got a free , (Young Lynch from Trim been the best at gaining possession) . from forward passes from down the field , frees won, points on the board .They Tyrone were so concerned on the number of balls won by Lynch that they substituted their No 4 at half time . Meath held the ball up at midfield with the mad possession game , so much so that 1 of our midfielders spent more time turning towards the Meath backs to pass the ball backwards than driving forward .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 10/08/2017 09:44:28    2031847

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Replying To AthboyCelt:  "Same as, God Virginia needs to be bypassed. Tyrone were comfortably the better team and but for the Meath keeper would have won by a lot more, cut Meath open very easy at times. On another note I thought it was going to be free entry into the game last night, must say Kingspan Park is a lovely stadium."
Kingspan (previously Breffni Park) is indeed a lovely stadium and only 40 mins away. The best of luck to the u17's going forward - the put in a good effort all year. I do think that young players should be allowed to express their talents on the ball without too many systems being worked by the various managements- most of which deliver little. In the present game you need players with quick hands able to move themselves and the ball with pace. Virgina can be bypassed by taking a left turn at Mahera (and going around the lake) but takes about 10mins longer which is better than a 30min sit on the main road.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/08/2017 09:52:31    2031857

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Replying To Meath_True:  "They didn't let the ball in , anytime they did we generally won possession or got a free , (Young Lynch from Trim been the best at gaining possession) . from forward passes from down the field , frees won, points on the board .They Tyrone were so concerned on the number of balls won by Lynch that they substituted their No 4 at half time . Meath held the ball up at midfield with the mad possession game , so much so that 1 of our midfielders spent more time turning towards the Meath backs to pass the ball backwards than driving forward ."
Don't know what game you were watching, Lynch won a few balls in the first half, scored a point and won a free. But so much of the ball was cleaned up by their sweeper. By a running game I mean running at the Tyrone defence, we very rarely did that

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 10/08/2017 11:40:22    2031919

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Don't know what game you were watching, Lynch won a few balls in the first half, scored a point and won a free. But so much of the ball was cleaned up by their sweeper. By a running game I mean running at the Tyrone defence, we very rarely did that"
Yes , we did not move the ball thru Tyrone, the running game was none existent because the midfielders did not drive forward . The one or two times the ball moved quickly was via a long kick , possession was won , frees were got , scores taken . the ball was held up at MF and the MF moved more laterally that forward . You obviously only read what you want to read .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 10/08/2017 12:18:52    2031935

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Don't know what game you were watching, Lynch won a few balls in the first half, scored a point and won a free. But so much of the ball was cleaned up by their sweeper. By a running game I mean running at the Tyrone defence, we very rarely did that"
wonder too if tyrone watched us more? their ulster was finished before we started leinster. they also may have had better focus.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/08/2017 12:22:32    2031940

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Replying To Meath_True:  "Yes , we did not move the ball thru Tyrone, the running game was none existent because the midfielders did not drive forward . The one or two times the ball moved quickly was via a long kick , possession was won , frees were got , scores taken . the ball was held up at MF and the MF moved more laterally that forward . You obviously only read what you want to read ."
Its so easy to nitpick after the game and criticise management and their tactics. Meath_True always has all the answers. Its time to get the chip off the shoulder and accept that your days with Meath development squads are long over. Stick to the ladies football!

royalthorn (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 10/08/2017 13:34:44    2031976

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Replying To royalthorn:  "Its so easy to nitpick after the game and criticise management and their tactics. Meath_True always has all the answers. Its time to get the chip off the shoulder and accept that your days with Meath development squads are long over. Stick to the ladies football!"
Hear Hear

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 10/08/2017 14:36:14    2032001

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