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Replying To bert09:  "He developed locked in syndrome since Sinn Fein topped the polls."
:). Hasn't everyone:)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16455 - 12/02/2020 14:08:20    2267305

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Ah he's a sound oul skin. I give him a hard time on here but you'll see him at every match, O'Byrne Cup in January etc. I respect his passion for the county."
Appreciate that.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16455 - 12/02/2020 14:08:56    2267306

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Replying To browncows:  "He livens up the tread, hope he and all his family are keeping well."
Thanks for the wishes. All good now , but a rough weekend

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16455 - 12/02/2020 14:13:04    2267308

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Thanks for the wishes. All good now , but a rough weekend"
Rough weekend for us all. I'm based out in the States at the moment, not sure I'll be going back given the mess the country is about to get itself into.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 692 - 12/02/2020 18:37:38    2267373

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Rough weekend for us all. I'm based out in the States at the moment, not sure I'll be going back given the mess the country is about to get itself into."
Unbelievable, but sure there's no telling some people. All we can do is prepare for the worst but hope for the best.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16455 - 12/02/2020 19:24:22    2267383

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Rough weekend for us all. I'm based out in the States at the moment, not sure I'll be going back given the mess the country is about to get itself into."
Im not sure in the long history of this nation (including the last 98 years of independence), that it was never NOT in a mess but that's a matter for a different type of forum altogether and I for one would favour leaving the politics off this forum. Its like the old saying about all conversation, religion and politics are a no-go.
As regards all things Meath, good win for the U20s over Wexford today, especially when conditions are taken into account. For the seniors, the slightly easier games of the league are now behind us, the endgame of our first foray in the top tier is now clear and obvious to us all, including the panel. A few more games regardless of results, will do no more harm. Im pleased that I'm seeing pragmatism out of many other posters, and the more players of prospect that are tried against this level of opposition, the better off we should be in principle. To address some of the questions raised on the threads over the last week or so of my absence, if I hear another human being saying put a big man on the square and hoof the ball in, ill explode. Also the idea of integrating players from this club, that club, every club, into the county setup based off of newspaper articles to face Kerry and Dublin among others, is bananas. This whole green blood philosophy is straight out of a 1960s playbook and is part of why we have fallen systematically in the last 20 years. It's very apparent in Meath GAA. We must come to the acceptance that we do not have the required talent to compete and win at this standard, and it must be raised and nurtured essentially from preschool. We cant pluck it out of thin air. It is that long term strategy we must be constantly striving to advance.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 226 - 15/02/2020 19:23:00    2267864

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Im not sure in the long history of this nation (including the last 98 years of independence), that it was never NOT in a mess but that's a matter for a different type of forum altogether and I for one would favour leaving the politics off this forum. Its like the old saying about all conversation, religion and politics are a no-go.
As regards all things Meath, good win for the U20s over Wexford today, especially when conditions are taken into account. For the seniors, the slightly easier games of the league are now behind us, the endgame of our first foray in the top tier is now clear and obvious to us all, including the panel. A few more games regardless of results, will do no more harm. Im pleased that I'm seeing pragmatism out of many other posters, and the more players of prospect that are tried against this level of opposition, the better off we should be in principle. To address some of the questions raised on the threads over the last week or so of my absence, if I hear another human being saying put a big man on the square and hoof the ball in, ill explode. Also the idea of integrating players from this club, that club, every club, into the county setup based off of newspaper articles to face Kerry and Dublin among others, is bananas. This whole green blood philosophy is straight out of a 1960s playbook and is part of why we have fallen systematically in the last 20 years. It's very apparent in Meath GAA. We must come to the acceptance that we do not have the required talent to compete and win at this standard, and it must be raised and nurtured essentially from preschool. We cant pluck it out of thin air. It is that long term strategy we must be constantly striving to advance."
That's very true. I apologize for bringing politics up on here, even if only in jest it's not on.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 692 - 15/02/2020 22:16:19    2267891

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My question here is not political but why ask jamesmcentee to kick a 45 off the ground 5 feet from managers position and not stop him.with us in the driven seat to win game with the wind.at our backs.work it short.to take off our one real freetaker shane walsh.keep dardis tobinnout of team considering the day that was in it.persist with slow build up from out the field but preach transition play from defense to forward play.use no inside players cant score.
Up with the big boys div 1.
Lets react to that status

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 149 - 15/02/2020 23:35:54    2267902

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Im not sure in the long history of this nation (including the last 98 years of independence), that it was never NOT in a mess but that's a matter for a different type of forum altogether and I for one would favour leaving the politics off this forum. Its like the old saying about all conversation, religion and politics are a no-go.
As regards all things Meath, good win for the U20s over Wexford today, especially when conditions are taken into account. For the seniors, the slightly easier games of the league are now behind us, the endgame of our first foray in the top tier is now clear and obvious to us all, including the panel. A few more games regardless of results, will do no more harm. Im pleased that I'm seeing pragmatism out of many other posters, and the more players of prospect that are tried against this level of opposition, the better off we should be in principle. To address some of the questions raised on the threads over the last week or so of my absence, if I hear another human being saying put a big man on the square and hoof the ball in, ill explode. Also the idea of integrating players from this club, that club, every club, into the county setup based off of newspaper articles to face Kerry and Dublin among others, is bananas. This whole green blood philosophy is straight out of a 1960s playbook and is part of why we have fallen systematically in the last 20 years. It's very apparent in Meath GAA. We must come to the acceptance that we do not have the required talent to compete and win at this standard, and it must be raised and nurtured essentially from preschool. We cant pluck it out of thin air. It is that long term strategy we must be constantly striving to advance."
"We do not have the required standard to win or compete at this level"

It does beg the question why even bother? Why do you comment of the forum? Why not just forget about it and let those of us who wish to support the current panel get on with it? I'm not sure what you think is achieved with those comments? Anyone can say it's a long term project etc etc but if what's being said is that there is no prospect of competing why would any young player bother playing GAA?

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 458 - 16/02/2020 01:05:28    2267906

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "My question here is not political but why ask jamesmcentee to kick a 45 off the ground 5 feet from managers position and not stop him.with us in the driven seat to win game with the wind.at our backs.work it short.to take off our one real freetaker shane walsh.keep dardis tobinnout of team considering the day that was in it.persist with slow build up from out the field but preach transition play from defense to forward play.use no inside players cant score.
Up with the big boys div 1.
Lets react to that status"
Well this is the question among many other questions that is making us wonder out loud about this management team and whether the emperor has any clothes after all.

I mean the current team we have available is not Div 1 standard, no arguments there but that's no excuse for not making the most of what you have.

There is no superior tactical insight or ingenuity in making sure a free taker like Barry Dardis (or the other 2 possinle kickers on the bench) take vital kickable frees/45s with the wind behind you in a relegation 6 pointer in front of a supportive home crowd. To not do so defies any basic logic and you wouldn't see an u10 manager do it. The fact that his nephew's 45 barely made the edge of the square with the wind behind him - it was frankly embarrassing and I'm not sure players will continue to have same belief and desire to work like dogs winning possession when they see decisions like that, on top of the lack of kick out strategy, attacking strategy etc Its how dressing rooms are lost.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 692 - 16/02/2020 09:16:49    2267910

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  ""We do not have the required standard to win or compete at this level"

It does beg the question why even bother? Why do you comment of the forum? Why not just forget about it and let those of us who wish to support the current panel get on with it? I'm not sure what you think is achieved with those comments? Anyone can say it's a long term project etc etc but if what's being said is that there is no prospect of competing why would any young player bother playing GAA?"
Once again, yet another knee-jerk reaction from a Meath poster on the Hogan stand forum. I wrote what I wrote because I think it is a true statement, and seemingly many others agree, that doesent mean I hate the panel and want to see them fail and "why bother" etc, thats not my point. I go to as many games year in, year out as you do no doubt and Im a Meath supporter for life, irregardless. However there has to be context applied to the last three seasons including the one currently ongoing. I said before that I know some of the panel from a young age and Id tell them these things to their face. In fact I'm sure they'd appreciate honesty and constructive feedback over the pie-in-the-sky alternate reality a lot of you live in where Meath are automatically one of the best teams in Ireland and deserved to be judged off of people who are now in their 60s who played decades ago. You might not think it or mean it, but it is in fact your attitude and posters like yours toward the panel that in my view, holds back progress. Its not my area of expertise but im sure my pal Furlong could name off the statistics of Meath teams in the era post-Boylan that absolutely paint a picture of the situation Meath is in. I for one, really do not see whats so barbaric about pointing out our shortcomings and I equally celebrate our successes.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 226 - 16/02/2020 12:47:52    2267935

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Once again, yet another knee-jerk reaction from a Meath poster on the Hogan stand forum. I wrote what I wrote because I think it is a true statement, and seemingly many others agree, that doesent mean I hate the panel and want to see them fail and "why bother" etc, thats not my point. I go to as many games year in, year out as you do no doubt and Im a Meath supporter for life, irregardless. However there has to be context applied to the last three seasons including the one currently ongoing. I said before that I know some of the panel from a young age and Id tell them these things to their face. In fact I'm sure they'd appreciate honesty and constructive feedback over the pie-in-the-sky alternate reality a lot of you live in where Meath are automatically one of the best teams in Ireland and deserved to be judged off of people who are now in their 60s who played decades ago. You might not think it or mean it, but it is in fact your attitude and posters like yours toward the panel that in my view, holds back progress. Its not my area of expertise but im sure my pal Furlong could name off the statistics of Meath teams in the era post-Boylan that absolutely paint a picture of the situation Meath is in. I for one, really do not see whats so barbaric about pointing out our shortcomings and I equally celebrate our successes."
So to be clear you thinking saying we clearly can't compete is what young players should hear and that will bring us on?

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 458 - 16/02/2020 18:32:07    2268000

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  "So to be clear you thinking saying we clearly can't compete is what young players should hear and that will bring us on?"
There isn't any common ground to be had here thejoeshow. You aren't hearing what I'm saying, and that's ok. I can't really rattle on about the same points I already raised, and I'm not interested in tittle-tattle. My apologies to the rest of the thread for this waste of a post.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 226 - 16/02/2020 20:35:05    2268022

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