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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Ashbourne won't get within 10 points of Summerhill. I said it before Ratoath are shocking badly coached and Ashbourne have no forwards . Only for Tormey they would have nothing. Summerhill will destroy Ashbourne. In fairness to the Cilles they had a proper right go at Summerhill and had Graham Reilly slotted his 3rd goal with 3 minutes to go the game was level. The hill hit 2-19 and yes they conceded 3-10 but it as against Brennan, Reilly, Conlon and O'Byrne, 4 proper scoring forwards. So Summerhill go stern examination and still hit 2-19. Ashbourne won't even remotely be able to score enough to live with summerhill. How people rate Ratoath is mystery to me. The cilles are better prospects going forward if they can find some defenders"
Summerhill are not that strong and only beating a poor St Colmcilles side by 6 points shows that. Ashbourne are a solid team without too many stand out players and the semi final will be tight between them.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 448 - 09/09/2018 13:50:18    2140479

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Replying To Maestro:  "Summerhill are not that strong and only beating a poor St Colmcilles side by 6 points shows that. Ashbourne are a solid team without too many stand out players and the semi final will be tight between them."
You clearly were not in Scrin Friday night or Navan Saturday. Summerhill are scintillating going forward and St Colmcilles are not a poor side. Yes they have faults at the back in my view by they are an improving side and have top forwards who hit 3-10.

Ashbourne are absolutely not going to beat Summerhill, not if they are allowed to play 18 V 15. Asbourne and Ratoath was dogs dinner of a game between two fast regressing sides, albeit I do feel Ratoath could be much better if better coached.

Really feel Ashbourne are very average. Can see Summerhill been out the gate at break with Ashbourne

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 98 - 09/09/2018 14:59:50    2140486

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "You clearly were not in Scrin Friday night or Navan Saturday. Summerhill are scintillating going forward and St Colmcilles are not a poor side. Yes they have faults at the back in my view by they are an improving side and have top forwards who hit 3-10.

Ashbourne are absolutely not going to beat Summerhill, not if they are allowed to play 18 V 15. Asbourne and Ratoath was dogs dinner of a game between two fast regressing sides, albeit I do feel Ratoath could be much better if better coached.

Really feel Ashbourne are very average. Can see Summerhill been out the gate at break with Ashbourne"
St Colmcilles made Summerhill look good, it was by far the handiest draw they could have got in the quarter finals. That game was a better game of football for the neutra alrightl but that doesn't mean there were two better teams playing. Ashbourne will keep it tight against Summerhill but I fancy Summerhill to win but not by that much.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 448 - 09/09/2018 17:58:42    2140509

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Dunboyne not impressive at all. However, I believe the best 4 teams are left. No surprises this year

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 218 - 09/09/2018 21:29:43    2140559

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From a Ratoath point of view an exceptionally disappointing weekend, for the second year in a row losing a Q/F with a poor poor performance, questions must be asked of everyone involved in this disappointment. Simonstown have roared back into contention with a big win over Skryne, I fancied Skryne for that one and as possible champions but Simonstown are now really on for 3 in a row, Dunboyne seemed disappointing today but Kells are tough opposition whilst Summerhill's win was expected over a game Colmcille's. Two very interesting semi finals but I'll go for a Summerhill v Simonstown final, and I think now the Keegan Cup will spend another winter in Simonstown, we shall see.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3459 - 09/09/2018 21:46:25    2140564

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Exciting affair in Dunsaughlin, Kells had the chance to win it, better team won but just about with more players on the score sheet compared to Kells. Fair play to both teams, really gave it their all and to Kells who had players playing hurling championship last Saturday, then against Wolfe Tones last Monday and then tonight. And on another note, Dunsaughlin have a nice set up there when finished but not a great view for spectators who were all one sided.

Bugsy (Meath) - Posts: 54 - 09/09/2018 22:37:31    2140577

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Replying To Analyst:  "Don't have a problem with any team to be honest, i simply stated after Tones match that i thought they were poor and that there was no championship in them. In fairness Ashbourne are an average side and should not be beating Ratoath but it looks like Ratoath may be the new Ashbourne in that they will never maje the breakthrough"
Y'know I'd respect you more if you actually admitted that you've a problem with Ratoath.
But just so I'm clear, you feel that a team that's been runners-up in 2 of the past 4 seasons and has over 10 years of senior football experience shouldn't be beating a team that's never made it past the quarter finals (and are also an average side)? Doesn't really make much sense.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1104 - 10/09/2018 07:39:21    2140595

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Hard luck to cilles great fighback and game was closer than end score suggested. That been said I think we watched 3 of the starting 6 forwards for Meath maybe 4 in that game.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15999 - 10/09/2018 10:08:09    2140628

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Ashbourne don't look strong this year. Ratoath could have gone well ahead early on but for some poor decision making, And for lack of tactics,
It still looked like Ratoath would kick on until Cian O Brien got injured. The line made no change and at half time put a sub straight in midfield instead of reorganising the team. Ashbourne Midfield now had no competition. Ratoath did well to get any scores with the lack of supply to the forwards.

Bad value for €10

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 265 - 10/09/2018 10:11:05    2140630

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Some really entertaining games over the weekend in all three grades. In Senior Simonstown appear to be hitting top form again and their semi final with Dunboyne is a mouthwatering tie, with Dunboyne having beaten them comfortably in the group stage, however that wont happen again as that game could go to extra time it is that hard to call. Skryne's league form probably gave them a false sense of their real position, as they had a full squad for most of their league games while others were regularly missing players, however it was a good year for them and they will be strong again next year. Don/Ash got the job done against a extremely poor Ratoath outfit on the day. Don/Ash are a very experienced team with a lot of excellent players from 1-9 and looked a team who knew their roles and had a game plan to suit, something Ratoath did not. For Ratoath to only get two scores from play, one of which came from a substitute, is appalling for a team laced with Meath Senior footballers, three of which are forwards! They haven't made an impact at all at Senior level yet and don't look like doing it any time soon. They were poor in the group stage in what was as easy a group as they could of got, drawing with St Pats, scrapping over Rathkenny and a depleted Wolfe Tones, and being poor again against St Colmcilles who were missing there three best forwards!

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 445 - 10/09/2018 10:23:16    2140633

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Hard luck to cilles great fighback and game was closer than end score suggested. That been said I think we watched 3 of the starting 6 forwards for Meath maybe 4 in that game."
Who are those 3 or 4 starting forwards for Meath that were on display?

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 528 - 10/09/2018 10:46:18    2140640

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Cilles will be kicking themselves , gave Summerhill far too much respect in the first half, gave the initiative away, when the went at them every bit as good, Heard Summerhill manager on the radio about the lights in Skryne, have to agree, a lot of dark spots and shadows on the pitch, not good enough to play a Senior Q/F on in my view. Simonstown very impressive and always looked in control. Ashbourne v Ratoath was a shocking game given the players on show. Kells are never easily beaten that game will do Dunboyne the world of good, Their semi final with Simonstown should be a cracker, Simonstown look totally different team than they one that Dunboyne easily dispatched in the Group Stages. Can only see one result in the other one, Summerhill will have to many guns for Ashbourne.

Re the intermediate,
Oldcastle are the team to beat, strong squad, very clear in what the are doing. to be able to bring on Paddy Gilsenan to close out a game shows the depth they have, good mix old youth and experience. They seem the best equip to have a crack at Senior
Trim will be kicking themselves, big turning point with young Lynch getting the red, always wonder when a forward who is flying gets a straight red for an off the ball incident, what has been going on up until then that goes unseen, Longwood never give in in fairness.
The Bracks and Dunderry, wasnt at it but 7 - 4 speaks from itself, 11 scores over 6 minutes in good conditions on a perfect pitch. Have seen the bracks few times this year and not really a surprise, I'm sure they wont care as the result is everything, but is it? who really wants to watch that or more so even play it? They could well beat longwood playing that way but will not win the championship.
Ballinlough, a great championship team, fair play to them, and having beaten Oldcastle already they certainly wont fear them in the semi final. However I think that in PT, Oldcastle will have to much for them

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 281 - 10/09/2018 12:09:29    2140681

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Ashbourne don't look strong this year. Ratoath could have gone well ahead early on but for some poor decision making, And for lack of tactics,
It still looked like Ratoath would kick on until Cian O Brien got injured. The line made no change and at half time put a sub straight in midfield instead of reorganising the team. Ashbourne Midfield now had no competition. Ratoath did well to get any scores with the lack of supply to the forwards.

Bad value for €10"
Ratoath made two changes at half time - O'Brien came off injured and was replaced by Kelly (the hurler) who scored one of their two scores from play. They also took off young Ahern who I thought was doing well - Ashbourne actually changed markers on him after about 10 minutes.

As for the other games - S'Hill v Cilles - some other people have said it and it proved to be true - Cilles lacked quality in the backs and that was what undid them. Yes, they have some very good forwards and James Conlon is a real handful but they will need to strengthen their back line before being a real threat at Senior.

Skyrne v Simonstown - I didn't see the Champions winning this as easily as they did. They seemed far better organised than Skyrne and I felt they were very comfortable throughout the game. Maybe they are timing their run just right!!

I didn't get to see the last game of the weekend - Dunboyne v Kells - It was obviously a good hard game and I am sure Dunboyn will benefit from coming through it!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 193 - 10/09/2018 12:21:41    2140683

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I still find it laughable when people give out about no county players coming from Kells, Skryne, Summerhill and Simonstown, and to many from Ratoath, Dunboyne and Don/Ash. Maybe they should do some research before they throw out these comments:

Gael Colmcille: Seamus Mattimoe was on the panel in 2017 but was hampered with injuries and didn't return in 2018 for whatever reason. Liam Ferguson was on the panel this year and they would have one or two others if they wanted to commit.

Skryne: Paddy O'Rourke left the panel at the end of 2017, Harry Rooney left after the league in 2018, and there other two palyers up to that standard, Eoin Smyth and Dara Campion were with the U20's.

Summerhill: Barry Dardis was on the panel throughout the league and didn't see any game time and left after the league, he should definitely be given a shot again next year if he wants it. David Larkin was on the panel at the start of 2017 and was either dropped or left but again should get a chance if he wants it along with two or three of his colleagues.

Simonstown: They had Sean Tobin, Padraig McKeever, Brian Conlon, Shane Gallagher and Mark McCabe on the panel in 2017 and only two of them, Shane Gallagher and Mark McCabe stayed for the year, despite neither of them getting game time in the league and the other three being regular players.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 445 - 10/09/2018 13:00:25    2140697

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Y'know I'd respect you more if you actually admitted that you've a problem with Ratoath.
But just so I'm clear, you feel that a team that's been runners-up in 2 of the past 4 seasons and has over 10 years of senior football experience shouldn't be beating a team that's never made it past the quarter finals (and are also an average side)? Doesn't really make much sense."
Correct i do believe that Ratoath should be beating Don Ash. Maybe myself and the majority of posters predictions on here and the bookies are all wrong ???
What a team done in the past counts for very little, so what if a team are senior for 10 years,

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1199 - 10/09/2018 13:44:16    2140712

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "I still find it laughable when people give out about no county players coming from Kells, Skryne, Summerhill and Simonstown, and to many from Ratoath, Dunboyne and Don/Ash. Maybe they should do some research before they throw out these comments:

Gael Colmcille: Seamus Mattimoe was on the panel in 2017 but was hampered with injuries and didn't return in 2018 for whatever reason. Liam Ferguson was on the panel this year and they would have one or two others if they wanted to commit.

Skryne: Paddy O'Rourke left the panel at the end of 2017, Harry Rooney left after the league in 2018, and there other two palyers up to that standard, Eoin Smyth and Dara Campion were with the U20's.

Summerhill: Barry Dardis was on the panel throughout the league and didn't see any game time and left after the league, he should definitely be given a shot again next year if he wants it. David Larkin was on the panel at the start of 2017 and was either dropped or left but again should get a chance if he wants it along with two or three of his colleagues.

Simonstown: They had Sean Tobin, Padraig McKeever, Brian Conlon, Shane Gallagher and Mark McCabe on the panel in 2017 and only two of them, Shane Gallagher and Mark McCabe stayed for the year, despite neither of them getting game time in the league and the other three being regular players."
Well it's clear to see that kane from simonstown is the best player in meath. How there hasn't been uproar on here over the refusal from management to call him up is beyond belief. Simonstown dismantled skryne with ease some of their football was county standard especially their goals. Ratoath going nowhere they haven't the team to ever win a championship, summerhill to beat ashbourne with the other 50/50

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 221 - 10/09/2018 14:38:44    2140733

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Replying To Analyst:  "Correct i do believe that Ratoath should be beating Don Ash. Maybe myself and the majority of posters predictions on here and the bookies are all wrong ???
What a team done in the past counts for very little, so what if a team are senior for 10 years,"
Well yeah they obviously were! The bookies got 3 of the 4 results wrong at the weekend. Bookies are notoriously bad at predicting local GAA games.
You're all over the place. Ratoath are poor, Don/Ash are average. Yet Don/Ash shouldn't be beating Ratoath? That literally makes no sense. Why should an average team never be beating a poor team?
If you think experience playing at a higher level for years and getting to senior finals counts for nothing then there really is no point in discussing much with you. I predicted Don/Ash to beat us. They've got the experience and the quality in areas that we don't have and we are proven to struggle against a good defence. Yet you seem to be crowing about it as if you've scored a victory or something.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1104 - 10/09/2018 15:18:42    2140767

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Only managed to make the Don/Ash v Ratoath game and it was beyond boring. So many poor decisions by both teams, too much hand passing but mainly Ratoath. It's frustrating to watch some players kick a ball from an angle or on the run and score only for that same player (and others) having space, taking a shot straight on and either hitting it short and into the keepers hands or missing. I get you have to be patient and recycling if there's no movement up front, but it happened so much in this game.

I just hope for the next round, Ashbourne step it up a few gears because they'll win nothing playing like they did on Saturday.

B52M (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 10/09/2018 16:07:58    2140786

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Well it's clear to see that kane from simonstown is the best player in meath. How there hasn't been uproar on here over the refusal from management to call him up is beyond belief. Simonstown dismantled skryne with ease some of their football was county standard especially their goals. Ratoath going nowhere they haven't the team to ever win a championship, summerhill to beat ashbourne with the other 50/50"
Just wondering do you have inside information about Kane and know that the management have never called him up?Because what you just said is false.

Just because a player isn't on the panel doesn't mean he wasn't asked to come into the panel and I'm sure there is plenty of cases of this happening in Meath.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 637 - 10/09/2018 16:34:16    2140805

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Well it's clear to see that kane from simonstown is the best player in meath. How there hasn't been uproar on here over the refusal from management to call him up is beyond belief. Simonstown dismantled skryne with ease some of their football was county standard especially their goals. Ratoath going nowhere they haven't the team to ever win a championship, summerhill to beat ashbourne with the other 50/50"
Would love to see Niall Kane tried out for Meath, love his engine and work rate. Yesterday reminded me what a loss Ronan Jones is to the Meath panel. I know he was poor against Kildare in the champo when he played but he was so promising in the Louth and early Sligo game. Won Dunboyne that game in extra time yesterday with the number of kick outs he won I felt.

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 647 - 10/09/2018 16:43:18    2140808

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