Of course you will not get success without putting in the effort and great credit to the clubs concerned. However, you should not forget the population in the respective clubs and how it has grown over the years compared to the many rural clubs within the county. There is a bit more involved than organisation - you need the numbers and a lot of clubs are struggling because of this-fact. In terms of success in underage over the last 10 years Don/Ash is probably the most successful and the have the two most important factors going for them; good organisation and numbers.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/02/2015 11:40:08    1693221

browncows

All true,but clubs like Dunshaughlin,Dunboyne,Trim etc could all be doing more imo.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 13/02/2015 11:44:42    1693224

Instead of sourcing modern development and training methods, Northmeathman did nothing but talk. Now that he is left behind by South Meath Clubs who were awake and alert he naturally feels bitter and jealous. Attempting to undermine very young stars anonymously is however cowardly and scurrilous and lowers his standing further.

Above is truly funny.. again I will point this out clearly, I have no problem with south meath or the individuals, I have a problem with MOD picking so many players from one club playing inter level. Or "young stars" as u call them.

Surely this opinion is valid, so everyone is clear again, picking 5 players from Nobber would be an issue.

i have said here on serveral occassions but North Meath club football is at its lowest, still good enough to win the last 2 inter titles!! Sorrry couldnt help myself.

The problem is not facilities or training methods, all you need is a pitch, leather ball and an empty bottle of 7up..All the other stuff is great but not required to produce players... just drive around Kerry for example.
Too many clubs in North Meath and small population would be an issue in my eyes.

No South v North issues here:)
PS Win nothing without 4-5 North Meath men on a Meath team..Just saying..

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 16/02/2015 09:24:21    1693909

When was the last time a senior championship was won by a club in north meath? Reguarding 5 players from the one club in Louth last year there was 5 players from Cooley on the senior Louth panel. Cooley have not won the Louth championship since 1990 and they got relegated to division 2 of the league last year via a relegation/play-off defeat.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/02/2015 10:40:55    1693938

yeah but Louth are brutal!

Rat.Lad.17 (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 17/02/2015 13:29:50    1694348

NMM Clearly your problem is more serious than about how a team is picked. That is unfortunate but does not excuse nasty behaviour. Meanwhile I am better off Looking forward to watching the young lads progress over the next few Months.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 17/02/2015 14:42:02    1694376

All , the Meath team make up is generally the remit of the Manager and their selection committee . The Manager is the one that takes all the flak when things go wrong . Ideally the Meath team should be made up based on performance during games within the county , however it is important to recognise that some managers see things differently to other people and see a skill facet in some players that lend them to fit better into the team jigsaw than other better performing players in the county ( They do a particular job , and do it well) that has always been the case , even back to the era of Sean Boylan . I recall been at a Challenge Match in Rathkenny and Meath under Boylan had a bushy haired , skinny lad playing in defence. Nobody knew who he was , and afterwards when they found out , asked the question as to how he got selected to play as he doesn't stand out at club level for Trim , that guy was Kevin Foley . one of the most tenacious one on one markers Meath has ever produced.
The overall team idea is to have a team that can play together , and do a job well . That was only one example ..... If the required skillset of the 5 players from Ratoath are only to be found in those players, and if they fit the team , then its the Managers choice to include them. There have been many a good player that have never been on championship winning teams . Its their skills , and what they can bring to the table that allows them to put the green and gold on . Not what team they play for . Forget the North / South debate this isn't conducive to team building , and we aren't living in the USA ....The Manager should have a plan , and that plan should allow him to select who he believes best fits his idea of a County panellist

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 17/02/2015 16:14:40    1694421

Ratlad yep your right. Louth are brutal but Meath only beat Louth last year by a point. Does not say much about Meath then.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 17/02/2015 16:40:35    1694443

chaislain abu - if that doesn't end the debate here nothing will.

here here

dubsout (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 17/02/2015 18:22:52    1694505

chaislain abu

well said 100% agree

Rat.Lad.17 (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 18/02/2015 17:08:39    1694792

OLLIE
County: Louth
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1693938
When was the last time a senior championship was won by a club in north meath? Reguarding 5 players from the one club in Louth last year there was 5 players from Cooley on the senior Louth panel. Cooley have not won the Louth championship since 1990 and they got relegated to division 2 of the league last year via a relegation/play-off defeat.

Well Ollie, since Louth Last won the Sam Maguire in 1957, the Keegan Cup has only crossed the River Boyne/Blackwater on the way home from the Meath SFC, a grand total of twice. WolfTones in 2006 and Killmaninghamwood a decade before that (I am of coarse excluding Kells 3 wins during that time).

Cant see that stat improving anytime soon either as with the increase in population in south and east Meath, it will be difficult for the clubs up north to compete for top honors. But as the saying goes, a team can only play 15 and if a smaller club gets a good core group of players together it can be done.

NAIL_BAR (Meath) - Posts: 457 - 18/02/2015 19:58:49    1694845

Cheers Niallbar. Thats some stat. I always feel that the hugh population that is in east Meath that the Cilles have underachieved. Always one of the favs for Inter every year.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 18/02/2015 21:59:34    1694868

Nailbar

and Wolfe Tones are just about over the Boyne too! :)

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 19/02/2015 09:14:12    1694874

I don't really care what club a lad comes from if he's good enough then he should be playing for the county team. If that happens to be 5 players from the one club then so be it. What I don't understand is what this management team considers "good enough". I've been to the first 2 league games and J wallace has touched the ball once and that was when he was easily dispossessed. McMahon had a bad day against Galway but I've seen him perform well before and expect him to do so again on faster ground. The point Im making is how must players in the county feel when they see these lads picked ahead of them. Can any poster on this forum honestly say that J wallace and Mcmahon are in the top 6 forwards in the county? If they are and maybe they are and I'm completely out of line here then Meath football is at one of the lowest points in its history. Personally if pushed to do so I think I could rattle off 10-15 forwards from around the county Id rate higher than the 2 lads. Thats nothing against Ratoath or the players themselves its just how I see it

Rags_2_Royal (Meath) - Posts: 43 - 19/02/2015 13:28:25    1694979

Rags

I think Bryan McMahon is,but I don't think Joey is at this time.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 19/02/2015 14:38:46    1695012

Rags id have McMahon in the top 6/8 definitely worth his place on panel, and think bit like Stephen bray we wont see best of until summer, as for joey, in not going to do the kid down, i personally think havin him on senior panel is doing him more harm than good, it could destroy his future prospects, again nothing against him personally its just hes not ready yet.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/02/2015 17:11:24    1695071

Off you go then rags, rattle those 10-15 forwards off.
Christ, I genuinely hope the lads don't read these forums. Why on Earth would they go through the trouble of intercounty training on top of club, college and (in Joey's case) U21 when supposed fans of Meath are coming out with such crap about them?

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 19/02/2015 19:23:25    1695112

weren't moy from tyrone intermediate when tyrone won the AI in 2008???
Sean and Colm Cavanagh, Philip Jordon, Ryan Mellon and Colin Holmes.

what do the nay sayers have to say about that? the lads are good enough to be there so stop bashing them because they are ratoath

dubsout (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 21/02/2015 11:57:27    1695452

If you google the internet you will find that both Cavanagh and Jordan were part of the Tyrone team that won All Irelands in 2003, 2005 and 2008 while Ryan Mellon was part of 2005 and 2008 (ref SK interview) - that's 3 players involved in those years. Moy are one of those teams who have been up from senior and back down to intermediate over the years and they are presently senior have been beaten last year by Carrickmore in semi-final. Nobody is running down players from any club it is just that some posters think that there is no club in the county who have 5 or 6 players good enough to represent the county at senior level- I would, along with many others go along with that opinion. The best of luck to management and players for next week end's match

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 21/02/2015 14:23:35    1695475

all 5 were involved in 2008, sure what would google know

dubsout (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 21/02/2015 15:07:33    1695485