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Cavan V Donegal - USFC Final 2019

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I'm quietly positive about Sunday to be fair. I was at the Tyrone V Donegal game and not taking away from the Donegal performance, Tyrone were absolutely dreadful, and despite being dreadful, they actually came back at Donegal.
Sunday is a final and is anyone's game, but if Cavan are to win it, they need to be at their absolute best and eliminate any errors. Armagh opened up the defence 3/4 times and should've scored a few goals so the defence needs to be tightened up. Michael Murphy gave a man of the match performance against Tyrone, but like I said, Tyrone were dreadful, so if we can keep Murphy someway quiet, it will be a positive stop towards winning our first Ulster Title since 1997.
What impressed me about Cavan this year is their patience, when Monaghan and Armagh started to come back at us, we didn't panic unlike previous years, we remained patient, moved the around the ball around and picked off our scores.
I remember a few months ago when a little village in Longford played a big club from Dublin in the Leinster Final and not many people gave them a chance, so I think our secret weapon on Sunday will be the manager, I think he has the ability to outsmart Bonner.
But whatever happens, Cavan Football is back on top, and hopefully we can stay there for a few years.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 441 - 18/06/2019 15:31:18    2197144

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "I'm quietly positive about Sunday to be fair. I was at the Tyrone V Donegal game and not taking away from the Donegal performance, Tyrone were absolutely dreadful, and despite being dreadful, they actually came back at Donegal.
Sunday is a final and is anyone's game, but if Cavan are to win it, they need to be at their absolute best and eliminate any errors. Armagh opened up the defence 3/4 times and should've scored a few goals so the defence needs to be tightened up. Michael Murphy gave a man of the match performance against Tyrone, but like I said, Tyrone were dreadful, so if we can keep Murphy someway quiet, it will be a positive stop towards winning our first Ulster Title since 1997.
What impressed me about Cavan this year is their patience, when Monaghan and Armagh started to come back at us, we didn't panic unlike previous years, we remained patient, moved the around the ball around and picked off our scores.
I remember a few months ago when a little village in Longford played a big club from Dublin in the Leinster Final and not many people gave them a chance, so I think our secret weapon on Sunday will be the manager, I think he has the ability to outsmart Bonner.
But whatever happens, Cavan Football is back on top, and hopefully we can stay there for a few years."
Back on top? That's a bit of a stretch in fairness, let's wait until we win something first!

GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 307 - 18/06/2019 19:17:16    2197251

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Looking forward to Sunday, even managed to bag myself a few Gerry Arthur stand tickets, hope it doesn't rain for all those season ticket holders, if you dont know by now, the GAA doesn't give a hoot about season ticket holders or anyone else for that matter, sponsors and the hierarchy will be looked after in the first instance once the provincial finals come around, same with the All Ireland finals, sponsors and hob nobs looked after first!

C'mon the Blue Men, bring the Anglo Celt back to Town where it belongs, looking forward to the big parade in Tesco Car Park on Sunday evening, Monday booked off.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 441 - 19/06/2019 14:09:44    2197591

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there's only 4 days left to a day that we waited 18 years for, sad when you think of it really!! i'm excited and nervous in equal measure. i'm going to enjoy the build up anyway and we'll see what the rest of the day brings.
I cant help but think that this inevitably will be donegals game. I do think they probably see themselves as the team that can take down the Dubs and if they beat cavan sunday they'll be on a collision course.
cavan do have a chance though and maybe the introduction of Argue to the middle of the pitch could be a wildcard move to add size to counteract Donegals physicality in murphy, mc gee, Langan, Thompson. I can definitely see ciaran Brady starting too. because regardless if Donegal go for pace on the flanks or not we're going to need it to counter attack, and we'll especially need that pace if i suspect Donegal set up more defensively in the first half to take the sting out of cavan.
As mentioned before cavans kickout strategy has to be absolutely perfect and by perfect i mean upwards of 75% retention.
it has been mentioned before that cavans defence was loose enough in the armagh game and that they could've had 2 goals in the first 5 mins, that is true but i don't think that period of time was representative of cavans defensive record this year. we're talking about a team here that had one of the best defensive records in the division 1 league !!!
one other point ill make is that Donegals defensive shield has been tested close to goals where its effective. ball after ball against Tyrone was mopped up and moved back out the field. A lot of cavans scores come from further out the pitch.

the weather aswell is going to be very important, a wet day could spell disaster for cavan (which reminds me of a donegal club team that are known for their defensive football when they won the championship a few years ago, the morning of the final at mass the priest prayed for rain as opposed to praying for their team to go out and play well) hahaha

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 390 - 19/06/2019 15:24:23    2197622

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Replying To theweanling:  "there's only 4 days left to a day that we waited 18 years for, sad when you think of it really!! i'm excited and nervous in equal measure. i'm going to enjoy the build up anyway and we'll see what the rest of the day brings.
I cant help but think that this inevitably will be donegals game. I do think they probably see themselves as the team that can take down the Dubs and if they beat cavan sunday they'll be on a collision course.
cavan do have a chance though and maybe the introduction of Argue to the middle of the pitch could be a wildcard move to add size to counteract Donegals physicality in murphy, mc gee, Langan, Thompson. I can definitely see ciaran Brady starting too. because regardless if Donegal go for pace on the flanks or not we're going to need it to counter attack, and we'll especially need that pace if i suspect Donegal set up more defensively in the first half to take the sting out of cavan.
As mentioned before cavans kickout strategy has to be absolutely perfect and by perfect i mean upwards of 75% retention.
it has been mentioned before that cavans defence was loose enough in the armagh game and that they could've had 2 goals in the first 5 mins, that is true but i don't think that period of time was representative of cavans defensive record this year. we're talking about a team here that had one of the best defensive records in the division 1 league !!!
one other point ill make is that Donegals defensive shield has been tested close to goals where its effective. ball after ball against Tyrone was mopped up and moved back out the field. A lot of cavans scores come from further out the pitch.

the weather aswell is going to be very important, a wet day could spell disaster for cavan (which reminds me of a donegal club team that are known for their defensive football when they won the championship a few years ago, the morning of the final at mass the priest prayed for rain as opposed to praying for their team to go out and play well) hahaha"
Forecast not looking good for Sunday.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 719 - 19/06/2019 16:20:33    2197648

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Replying To blueman1903:  "Forecast not looking good for Sunday."
I just checked YR there. its saying that clones will be dry sunday but that could change by this evening, the current weather pattern is very volatile and hard to judge.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 390 - 19/06/2019 16:50:37    2197666

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Replying To theweanling:  "I just checked YR there. its saying that clones will be dry sunday but that could change by this evening, the current weather pattern is very volatile and hard to judge."
Hopefully your right! I was just going by RTÉ weather after the 9 news last night.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 719 - 19/06/2019 17:43:21    2197684

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I posted earlier on a forum saying we would win well. Don't mean any disrespect, and would welcome a Cavan win if they are the better team on the day. Any team who try and break the norm, without disrespecting Cavans past, is a welcome addition and good for the gaa. Safe travels to everyone and may the best team win. Until Sunday.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 468 - 20/06/2019 16:51:14    2198049

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Jasus theRock, thats why we love Gaa.... and Donegal. Nice people.

bunnoe1 (Cavan) - Posts: 49 - 21/06/2019 02:18:26    2198187

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "I posted earlier on a forum saying we would win well. Don't mean any disrespect, and would welcome a Cavan win if they are the better team on the day. Any team who try and break the norm, without disrespecting Cavans past, is a welcome addition and good for the gaa. Safe travels to everyone and may the best team win. Until Sunday."
You couldn't possibly disrespect our past. We've won Ulster over twice as many times as every other county.

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 268 - 21/06/2019 09:21:56    2198212

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Replying To IamADragon:  "You couldn't possibly disrespect our past. We've won Ulster over twice as many times as every other county."
When Dinosaurs ruled the earth.

Samsforthehills (Donegal) - Posts: 1022 - 21/06/2019 10:21:36    2198236

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Replying To IamADragon:  "You couldn't possibly disrespect our past. We've won Ulster over twice as many times as every other county."
And we won 2 titles in the last 50 years . Some past that is!

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 21/06/2019 11:31:57    2198254

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "And we won 2 titles in the last 50 years . Some past that is!"
Go on, tell us once and for all - what county are you really from??

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3833 - 21/06/2019 12:17:26    2198263

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Seeing Donegal's excellent kickouts from the first 2 games, I wonder will Cavan management bite the bullet and decide to concede all or certainly some of the kickouts.

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 423 - 21/06/2019 18:10:23    2198377

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Replying To AudiMan:  "Seeing Donegal's excellent kickouts from the first 2 games, I wonder will Cavan management bite the bullet and decide to concede all or certainly some of the kickouts."
Kickouts are a glaring weakness for us, there's no question about that. We struggled against both monaghan and Armagh with them.

I'm hoping Cavan go short with them and build from the back. We simply don't have the options to go long. Clarke will be CHB and Gearóid will be CHF so, there's our two best ball winners not playing midfield.
If donegal push up on our kickouts we could be in trouble.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 21/06/2019 19:21:21    2198393

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Replying To Ned_Stormcrow:  "Kickouts are a glaring weakness for us, there's no question about that. We struggled against both monaghan and Armagh with them.

I'm hoping Cavan go short with them and build from the back. We simply don't have the options to go long. Clarke will be CHB and Gearóid will be CHF so, there's our two best ball winners not playing midfield.
If donegal push up on our kickouts we could be in trouble."
our only hope is that Donegal wont have any kickouts in the game...... hang on.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5280 - 21/06/2019 19:33:36    2198400

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Anyone have a photo of the stand lay out ?

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 93 - 21/06/2019 20:05:16    2198406

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Replying To Ned_Stormcrow:  "Kickouts are a glaring weakness for us, there's no question about that. We struggled against both monaghan and Armagh with them.

I'm hoping Cavan go short with them and build from the back. We simply don't have the options to go long. Clarke will be CHB and Gearóid will be CHF so, there's our two best ball winners not playing midfield.
If donegal push up on our kickouts we could be in trouble."
Hi Ned_Stormcrow: I'd say Donegal will try and force ye long. Could be an aerial and breaking ball battle.

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 423 - 21/06/2019 22:30:13    2198441

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Replying To blueman1903:  "Forecast not looking good for Sunday."
Pitch will be fairly damp come tomorrow with the amount of salty tears the Armagh lads will drop on pitch this evening after we dump them out. Best of luck to Cavan tomorrow and in our absence from final due to not playing yee in first half in Breffni I hope you manage to keep score respectable and at least make it an occasion on the hallowed turf of ulster football.

FarneyLenny (Monaghan) - Posts: 110 - 22/06/2019 07:11:52    2198481

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Replying To Ned_Stormcrow:  "Kickouts are a glaring weakness for us, there's no question about that. We struggled against both monaghan and Armagh with them.

I'm hoping Cavan go short with them and build from the back. We simply don't have the options to go long. Clarke will be CHB and Gearóid will be CHF so, there's our two best ball winners not playing midfield.
If donegal push up on our kickouts we could be in trouble."
If Cavan try to play from the back it will fail. You say about Galligan's kick out's as it stands with his long kicks there is no need for a midfield player when he is kicking long so you need a good strong half forward line supported by one of the midfielders every time so the second midfielder can pick up the break downs. Galligan fails when he tries to kick short to the side lines for the majority he will kick out over the side line. It's not for the want of practice I can tell you. The problem for tomorrow for Cavan is that Donegal have players that one man will find it hard to mark and they are well capable of exploiting any weaknesses in the Cavan set up. Cavan don't have the luxury of being able to man mark, Murphy on his own is worth 3 men. He will be all over the park he puts up phenomenal milage during a game
Have the team being named when you say Clarke will be CHB and McKiernan full forward. McKiernan will be listed as FF but will be in the middle as usual.
In Galligan's defense Cavan don't have a goalkeeper of his calibre at the moment and he made some vital saves against Monaghan and Armagh. A lot of credit must go to him for Cavan being where they are at "tomorrow". The best of luck to all in Clones.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4533 - 22/06/2019 09:35:42    2198506

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