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Replying To cavanman47:  "Mayo clubs don't take it seriously?? Castlebar have lost 2 finals in the last 3 years! No club is going to play right through to Paddy's day of the following year if they're not taking the competition seriously.

You really will manipulate any stat you get your hands on to suit your argument. There's a big difference in winning provincial titles (which Mayo and Kerry teams regularly do) and not winning your opening game in Ulster - which Cavan teams rarely manage.

I wouldn't like to see any team absolutely dominate our championship, but if Ramor do win next year, I would expect them to their celebrations to be more restrained than this year (understandably) and for them to approach Ulster with realistic designs on winning it."
The point I'm making is club football has no bearing whatsoever on how your county team does. None whatesoever. Slaughtneil are one of the best clubs in Ulster this past few years. Where's Derry football? Same with Crossmaglen.. where's Armagh football... when Cavan Gaels were at their pomp in Cavan in the noughties did it improve Cavan county team? No. same goes for Corofin this past few years .. and portlaise .. and lots more clubs in both codes Wexford hurling included.

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 07/11/2016 15:57:05    1932418

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "The point I'm making is club football has no bearing whatsoever on how your county team does. None whatesoever. Slaughtneil are one of the best clubs in Ulster this past few years. Where's Derry football? Same with Crossmaglen.. where's Armagh football... when Cavan Gaels were at their pomp in Cavan in the noughties did it improve Cavan county team? No. same goes for Corofin this past few years .. and portlaise .. and lots more clubs in both codes Wexford hurling included."
That's the point I made a few pages ago. But it is NOT the point you made - you said those clubs don't take the competition seriously, which is plain untrue.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 07/11/2016 16:56:33    1932445

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Replying To cavanman47:  "That's the point I made a few pages ago. But it is NOT the point you made - you said those clubs don't take the competition seriously, which is plain untrue."
Mayo and kerry don't take it serious....

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 07/11/2016 18:21:31    1932479

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Mayo and kerry don't take it serious...."
They do. I've answered that above re castlebar (just one of the big mayo clubs who do). Ballina are another, crossmalinagh did when they were good enough.

As for kerry, Ask colm Cooper if he takes it seriously.


I've written that answer on the assumption that you're not just wumming but I'm not sure.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 07/11/2016 21:19:52    1932539

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Replying To cavanman47:  "They do. I've answered that above re castlebar (just one of the big mayo clubs who do). Ballina are another, crossmalinagh did when they were good enough.

As for kerry, Ask colm Cooper if he takes it seriously.


I've written that answer on the assumption that you're not just wumming but I'm not sure."
No mayo or Kerry team have won the club championship for 10/12 years. So they don't take it that serious do they??? Tell me now it's not about winning!!

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 07/11/2016 22:04:36    1932558

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "No mayo or Kerry team have won the club championship for 10/12 years. So they don't take it that serious do they??? Tell me now it's not about winning!!"
By that brilliant logic then Mayo don't take the All Ireland seriously as they haven't won it in donkeys years

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 422 - 08/11/2016 04:01:48    1932586

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "No mayo or Kerry team have won the club championship for 10/12 years. So they don't take it that serious do they??? Tell me now it's not about winning!!"
Mayo haven't won the all-ireland since '51. I suppose they're not taking it seriously???

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 08/11/2016 08:23:13    1932593

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Mayo haven't won the all-ireland since '51. I suppose they're not taking it seriously???"
We're talking about club football here. The original post was kerry , Dublin and Mayo take the club championship serious. My reply was that only Dublin seem to do . If kerry took it serious well how come a Waterford team and a Tipperary team contested last years munster club final??
When was the last kerry team to win the club Ireland??
The law of averages they only have to beat the cork champs to reach an all Ireland club semi.
And they still can't win it because they ain't bothered after winning the county.

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/11/2016 10:02:50    1932619

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The bottom line is the season is too long and players lose interest.
Players like Connolly and Keegan are still playing football having started in January. Crazy stuff for amateurs.
The Ulster championship for example should be played over 6 weeks not 3 months.
4 quarter finals played as 2 double headers quarter finals plus a double header semi finals and final could be all played in 6 weeks.
Same goes for Connaught and Munster.
Provincial finals should be all over mid June leaving 2 months til mid August to run off all Ireland qualifying series.

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/11/2016 10:31:11    1932630

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "We're talking about club football here. The original post was kerry , Dublin and Mayo take the club championship serious. My reply was that only Dublin seem to do . If kerry took it serious well how come a Waterford team and a Tipperary team contested last years munster club final??
When was the last kerry team to win the club Ireland??
The law of averages they only have to beat the cork champs to reach an all Ireland club semi.
And they still can't win it because they ain't bothered after winning the county."
Why did a Tipp and Wford team contest the final - because there are decent teams in those counties. Look at St. Galls, one of the best club sides to ever come out of Ulster yet even when their players committed to Antrim, there weren't enough players from other clubs to make them successful.

I don't know off the top of my head when a Kerry team last won it, but;

1. Crokes lost the final in 07 i think it was, and
2. Often, the Kerry champions don't actually get to progress to the Munster championship due to their regional teams structure.


There may well be counties whose clubs don't take it seriously (tho I can't think of any) but Mayo and Kerry are certainly not 2 of those counties!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 08/11/2016 11:06:34    1932639

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "The bottom line is the season is too long and players lose interest.
Players like Connolly and Keegan are still playing football having started in January. Crazy stuff for amateurs.
The Ulster championship for example should be played over 6 weeks not 3 months.
4 quarter finals played as 2 double headers quarter finals plus a double header semi finals and final could be all played in 6 weeks.
Same goes for Connaught and Munster.
Provincial finals should be all over mid June leaving 2 months til mid August to run off all Ireland qualifying series."
The Ulster Championship started on 15 May 2016 and ended on 17 July 2016. Nice rounding.

The new proposals that will go to congress in 2017 would reduce the length to seven weeks. So go to your club and try to influence things.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 08/11/2016 11:35:36    1932645

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Replying To Skelling:  "The Ulster Championship started on 15 May 2016 and ended on 17 July 2016. Nice rounding.

The new proposals that will go to congress in 2017 would reduce the length to seven weeks. So go to your club and try to influence things."
i wouldn't bother with him at this stage - starting to suspect he might be Tom Smith's alter ego

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 08/11/2016 12:51:47    1932677

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Replying To cavanman47:  "i wouldn't bother with him at this stage - starting to suspect he might be Tom Smith's alter ego"
Your kinda like tomsmith yourself with 2000+ posts with very little ideas or substance.. maybe your Fredflint in disguise!!

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/11/2016 15:30:31    1932752

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Your kinda like tomsmith yourself with 2000+ posts with very little ideas or substance.. maybe your Fredflint in disguise!!"
If you read any of my posts you'll see them backed up with plenty of substance. I'll happily stand over anything I've said.

I have no issue if you wish to pull me up on what I've said - this is an opinion forum after all.


But of all the topics to challenge anyone on, using the argument that Mayo clubs aren't taking the club championship seriously isn't going to do you any favours!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 08/11/2016 15:38:13    1932753

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Replying To cavanman47:  "If you read any of my posts you'll see them backed up with plenty of substance. I'll happily stand over anything I've said.

I have no issue if you wish to pull me up on what I've said - this is an opinion forum after all.


But of all the topics to challenge anyone on, using the argument that Mayo clubs aren't taking the club championship seriously isn't going to do you any favours!"
When the last time a Mayo club won the all Ireland? .. after all they have only Corofin and st Bridget's to beat year after year .. and they haven't won it for 10/12 years.
Now that's serious!!

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/11/2016 16:49:00    1932794

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "When the last time a Mayo club won the all Ireland? .. after all they have only Corofin and st Bridget's to beat year after year .. and they haven't won it for 10/12 years.
Now that's serious!!"
Corofin and St Bridgets are 2 of the best teams in the country, and Castlebar won 2 Connaughts in 3 years! and went onto the final in both those years.


I'm sorry, but I have to say it again -

Losing in the final does not mean you are not taking a competition seriously! If that was the case, then you'd have to say only Ballyboden took the club championship seriously last year. Are you really saying that????

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3587 - 08/11/2016 17:50:56    1932810

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Corofin and St Bridgets are 2 of the best teams in the country, and Castlebar won 2 Connaughts in 3 years! and went onto the final in both those years.


I'm sorry, but I have to say it again -

Losing in the final does not mean you are not taking a competition seriously! If that was the case, then you'd have to say only Ballyboden took the club championship seriously last year. Are you really saying that????"
If you saw certain players last Friday night in Dublin you would realise that they don't take the club championship serious. Because I saw them. Enough said!

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/11/2016 21:29:46    1932887

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