Are we talking actual Towns/Cities or hinterlands? And if we are talking hinterlands, how big a hinterland and where is the border between these hinterlands i.e. how do you decide if an area is a hinterland to one town or another is there are two towns close together. Think it's easier myself if you stick to actual towns/cities.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/12/2015 12:51:43    1811220

Oh and African or European hinterland.......

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/12/2015 12:52:26    1811221

Wicklowman I stand corrected. Just been reading up on Emmets. I see a certain John Henderson ex-Kilkenny is involved there. I presume its some of his lad's that feature on the hurling team?
Apparently 31K, almost 32K, is the population so plenty room for two clubs

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1066 - 03/12/2015 13:03:29    1811224

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Cardiff or Edinburgh surely! No one said it was only Ireland!! ;-)

got there before you bald eagle .. see my post re: Mexico City.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 03/12/2015 13:27:21    1811230

I see your Mexico and I raise it to Tokyo....

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/12/2015 14:24:21    1811239

The clue is in the title...TOWN!

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 03/12/2015 14:39:45    1811245

Define a Town though Ollie? Armagh has City status but has less than 15,000 population whereas Bangor is a town with almost 60,000. Hence me saying Town/City.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/12/2015 14:57:08    1811250

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Define a Town though Ollie? Armagh has City status but has less than 15,000 population whereas Bangor is a town with almost 60,000. Hence me saying Town/City.

A city usually has a Cathedral? A town does not.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 03/12/2015 15:13:28    1811257

See a City is technically just a large town. There are no specific criteria to get City status but they are historically given to towns with Cathedrals (though I believe there are towns without Cathedrals given City status and also towns with Cathedrals who are just plain boring old towns). Don't think having a Cathedral should exclude you from this pop list and anyway, most Irish cities do have more than one GAA club.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/12/2015 16:09:15    1811270

in terms of gaa towns, portlaoise surely has to have the largest pick? its been fairly obvious what advantages that brings, you just have to look at the roll of honour..

GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 193 - 03/12/2015 18:11:16    1811304

A city is a big town. The cathedral reasoning is nonsense, there's cathedrals in places like Loughrea, Mullingar and Skibbereen, there's no way they can be classed as cities. If you want to get ecumenical about it there's even a C of I cathedral in Trim in Meath, which has a population of maybe 8'000.

Places like Kilkenny and Newry are cities in name only as far as I'm concerned.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1677 - 03/12/2015 19:05:13    1811314

Maroonatic - The second club in Bray are a poor outfit. Feargal Og. A bad junior club. Bray Emmetts are a serious outfit now. Yes John Henderson is heavily involved. John won a county title at full forward with my club Glenealy in 1997 I think. He scored 1-2 in the final. John then effectively from scratch set up the Bray Emmetts hurling club. Bray is now the fastest growing hurling town in Ireland. I'm 36 and in underage hurling they never even had a team, not a proper one anyway. Now they win the majority of underage and minor championship, though not this year. Henderson's son is centre back on he Wicklow county team and Bray have won the last 2 Wicklow hurling championships - their first since the 1930s. A major contributing factor to Bray's success was the sale of their grounds just off Bray main street for £10-12 Irish pounds. Huge money. They bought land out on the motorway on the Dublin-Wicklow border. They also employed Ireland's first full time underage paid coach. They make real advantage of their border status and enter both the Wicklow and Dublin leagues. They are a serious outfit now. And more power to them. Hopefully, my club and our traditional rivals Carnew will rise to the challenge and this will be to the overall betterment of Wicklow hurling.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1142 - 03/12/2015 20:01:59    1811323

Castleisland and Listowel in Kerry have only one club two big towns

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 03/12/2015 21:41:33    1811333

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Really disagree about your points that the GAA have no interest in working class areas.

Dublin 12 is a soccer strong hold in itself and always has been - clubs there are James' Gaels, Robert Emmets, Crumlin, Good Counsel.. Templeogue/SS clubhouse is in lower Crumlin..

GAA do plenty in working class areas but you can't make young people choose GAA over soccer or make them play sports.

Dublin has certain areas across the city where some sports (Soccer and Rugny) are just far stronger than GAA. And hats off to Dublin GAA they are trying to break that mould and are getting development officers into as many schools as possible now

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 04/12/2015 08:07:18    1811335

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1811335 Gael85
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Really disagree about your points that the GAA have no interest in working class areas.

Dublin 12 is a soccer strong hold in itself and always has been - clubs there are James' Gaels, Robert Emmets, Crumlin, Good Counsel.. Templeogue/SS clubhouse is in lower Crumlin..

GAA do plenty in working class areas but you can't make young people choose GAA over soccer or make them play sports.

Dublin has certain areas across the city where some sports (Soccer and Rugny) are just far stronger than GAA. And hats off to Dublin GAA they are trying to break that mould and are getting development officers into as many schools as possible now


James' Gaels, Robert Emmets, Crumlin, Good Counsel and even Ballyfermot/Liffey Gaels are struggling big time. These clubs cant afford a proper GPO and Dublin County Board are doing litte to help in this area. I hate to say GAA is becoming a upper class sport in Dublin now

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 04/12/2015 09:16:45    1811346

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Cardiff or Edinburgh surely! No one said it was only Ireland!! ;-)

got there before you bald eagle .. see my post re: Mexico City.
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Bald Eagle (None) - Posts: 1009 - 04/12/2015 12:01:30    1811390

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Define a Town though Ollie? Armagh has City status but has less than 15,000 population whereas Bangor is a town with almost 60,000. Hence me saying Town/City.

A city usually has a Cathedral? A town does not.
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Bald Eagle (None) - Posts: 1009 - 04/12/2015 12:07:41    1811392

does Tokyo have a cathedral though ?

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 04/12/2015 13:13:39    1811415

Castlebravo

We have 2 cities on this island Dublin and then Belfast,

Cork in geographical term is a big town
Derry next has roughly 100,000 big town
Limerick
Lisburn - 75,000 really should be part of Belfast
Galway - take the students out and its small - Bangor is bigger!!!
and that is it

By local was made a city but in reality Newry is a medium sized town.
Armagh has roughly 12,000 but it was made a city due to the fact that it is the heart of the two churches on the island.

But who made Kilkenny a city - did they just call it a city??? - it's smaller than Newry...

Cashel was once a city and the most important 1,500 yrs ago.....

So Derry with 100,000 has few clubs
Lisburn with 75,000 has only one i think - St. Patrick's - might be one in poleglass!!!

But in reality there are large areas of the north with no GAA clubs - most of north Down, Portadown only has one club, East Belfast with a massive population is decimated - all clubs cease to exist....

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 04/12/2015 13:16:17    1811418

does Tokyo have a cathedral though ?

Ha - good man.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 04/12/2015 13:30:47    1811423