Replying To JimB1991: "It isnt a matter of opinion, its a fact that there not fair, the numbers alone confirm that before you even get into the relative strength of the teams.
Beating two hurling counties in Munster should not give you the same seeding as beating 3 or 4 teams in Ulster or Leinster, that shouldn't even be up for debate."
So we should toss 140 years of tradition in the bin. We will replace the provincial championships with the leagues in terms of status and importance. We will then move the league into the provincial championships window of the season and play the provincial championships out of the way. Sure they will stand on their own two feet and wont be damaged at all. Gotcha. Great idea.....
Replying To Tadhg2020: "So we should toss 140 years of tradition in the bin. We will replace the provincial championships with the leagues in terms of status and importance. We will then move the league into the provincial championships window of the season and play the provincial championships out of the way. Sure they will stand on their own two feet and wont be damaged at all. Gotcha. Great idea....."
Ah yes the great tradition of competitiveness between Kerry and Clare or maybe it's the Cork V Waterford rivalry you're talking about? Or Dublin v Carlow? The 'tradition' is the local rivalries between teams competitive with each other, that will still happen and actually happen more often and matter more if the league is moved and linked to a tiered championship.
Replying To Tadhg2020: "Whether they are equal or not is a matter of opinion. They are held in equal standing by the Association and that is the opinion that counts. Ulster was the weakest province for many a year. They put in great work to turn that around and now have the strongest. Connacht was considered very weak for years too and they turned that around. Leinster was considered to be very strong and it no longer is. These things go in cycles. Winning your province should mean a seeding in the All Ireland series in any format."
Really, how anyone can align Armaghs route in Ulster to Kerry route in munster and then say they start at the same point in all-ireland? Even numerically, never mind quality wise there is a massive difference.
Replying To Tadhg2020: "Whether they are equal or not is a matter of opinion. They are held in equal standing by the Association and that is the opinion that counts. Ulster was the weakest province for many a year. They put in great work to turn that around and now have the strongest. Connacht was considered very weak for years too and they turned that around. Leinster was considered to be very strong and it no longer is. These things go in cycles. Winning your province should mean a seeding in the All Ireland series in any format."
When is the tipp, limerick,clare cycle of parity expected?
Replying To legendzxix: "Galway v Roscommon and Kerry v Cork are standalone events. No influence whatsoever on the All Ireland championship. If the finals are standalone events, the championships can be standalone events as well - if the majority agree at Congress."
Yes, if you have a good enough competition and proper calendar time, it will stand alone. Ulster and Leinster being shoehorned at present, will lead to some teams not prioritizing a provincial title, because it gives other's a better schedule. Interesting to see how Donegal progress this year??
Replying To Expertinall: "Yes, if you have a good enough competition and proper calendar time, it will stand alone. Ulster and Leinster being shoehorned at present, will lead to some teams not prioritizing a provincial title, because it gives other's a better schedule. Interesting to see how Donegal progress this year??"
Replying To JimB1991: "Ah yes the great tradition of competitiveness between Kerry and Clare or maybe it's the Cork V Waterford rivalry you're talking about? Or Dublin v Carlow? The 'tradition' is the local rivalries between teams competitive with each other, that will still happen and actually happen more often and matter more if the league is moved and linked to a tiered championship."
The tradition and culture is in winning your province and representing your province as champions. You should know this because for all but 2 years in your existence its all you've had.