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Replying To Viking66: "It was our only Leinster minor win in my adult lifetime! And I'm 53 now!" Wexford's last 4 Leinster minor's wins were in 1970, 1980, 1985, 2019. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 01/03/2024 18:34:38 2529120 Link
Yes it's interesting to see what comes out of each year especially the team that was most successful in recent times Foley and Cian byrne fethard a year younger than Richie and molly. Just shows you prob only get one 2 , 3 or 4 max most years which would be a great return . Average inter county career 7 to 10 years so a panel. Of prob 30 realistically who have a chance of playing needs to get turnover of 3 to 4 players off every years minor group to keep the conveyer belt moving. Thats an average some lasl longer 12 years inter County othesr 5 to 10 so average balances out . The good offaly team at present will still possibly only get 3 or 4 to top level too of that group . Like ourselves and every other county we Need to keep and improve the standards year on year . Possibly could more from 19 squad may push on in near future too . Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 379 - 01/03/2024 19:26:00 2529125 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Wexford's last 4 Leinster minor's wins were in 1970, 1980, 1985, 2019." I wasn't even born in 1970! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16600 - 01/03/2024 19:27:48 2529126 Link
Just on the question of the minors in 2019, 4 lads in the senior panel now who were u17 in 2019, Molloy and Richie Lawlor were starters in 2019, Tucker Kinsella I think was involved in Celtic Challenge panel I don't think Eoin Ryan was involved at all in 2019. 5 lads in the senior panel now who were u16 in 2019, Cian Byrne and Conor Foley came on in most games from memory and started v Kilkenny in a round robin game in Bellefield. Think Darragh Carley and Michael Dundon were in the Celtic Challenge panel while I'm not sure on Corey Dunbar, I know he played a few sports, played underage soccer for Wexford FC and Bray and was told competed in boxing at a high level too. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 01/03/2024 19:49:22 2529133 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I wasn't even born in 1970!" Apologies Viking. I've just realised you said 'adult' lifetime. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2866 - 01/03/2024 20:09:52 2529135 Link
Replying To Formertownie: "Yes it's interesting to see what comes out of each year especially the team that was most successful in recent times Foley and Cian byrne fethard a year younger than Richie and molly. Just shows you prob only get one 2 , 3 or 4 max most years which would be a great return . Average inter county career 7 to 10 years so a panel. Of prob 30 realistically who have a chance of playing needs to get turnover of 3 to 4 players off every years minor group to keep the conveyer belt moving. Thats an average some lasl longer 12 years inter County othesr 5 to 10 so average balances out . The good offaly team at present will still possibly only get 3 or 4 to top level too of that group . Like ourselves and every other county we Need to keep and improve the standards year on year . Possibly could more from 19 squad may push on in near future too ." Would be great if AJ Redmond would commit Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16600 - 01/03/2024 21:01:36 2529139 Link
Any practice game scheduled for the weekend for lads who haven't seen much minutes yet like the Laois game 2 weeks ago? TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 01/03/2024 22:11:17 2529144 Link
Replying To Formertownie: "Yes it's interesting to see what comes out of each year especially the team that was most successful in recent times Foley and Cian byrne fethard a year younger than Richie and molly. Just shows you prob only get one 2 , 3 or 4 max most years which would be a great return . Average inter county career 7 to 10 years so a panel. Of prob 30 realistically who have a chance of playing needs to get turnover of 3 to 4 players off every years minor group to keep the conveyer belt moving. Thats an average some lasl longer 12 years inter County othesr 5 to 10 so average balances out . The good offaly team at present will still possibly only get 3 or 4 to top level too of that group . Like ourselves and every other county we Need to keep and improve the standards year on year . Possibly could more from 19 squad may push on in near future too ." Max4 out of an unsuccessful team but if its considered a good team there should be more. The question we should be asking is are these the 4 that you would have picked to make it back then and if there were others where are they and why didn't they make it. There are academies for underage but what do we do to target keeping these players after minor. There is u20 but unfortunately these boys are spread out all over for third level and keeping them together is tough, the next thing is a job, has Wexford got the resources to keep them in the county? people will say that with the ease of transport and everything that shouldn't make a difference but it does. Limerick found the players and had all the resources on its doorstep to put a plan in place. Take an example - would a lad doing his leaving who would get the points to do a higher level course in a Dublin Uni accept a lower level one in SETU Waterford or eventually Wexford - Limerick didn't have those issues. It all makes you wonder why Dublin has not being able to get their act together in Hurling, they have the underage resources just cannot translate these to Senior. I would say that outside of Kilkenny, Tipperary and Cork (a lot of people will say that they haven't very successful recently in particular Cork but look at the stats), counties have to realise that to be successful you have to do something different - Limerick did it. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2028 - 02/03/2024 03:19:28 2529165 Link
Replying To zinny: "Max4 out of an unsuccessful team but if its considered a good team there should be more. The question we should be asking is are these the 4 that you would have picked to make it back then and if there were others where are they and why didn't they make it. There are academies for underage but what do we do to target keeping these players after minor. There is u20 but unfortunately these boys are spread out all over for third level and keeping them together is tough, the next thing is a job, has Wexford got the resources to keep them in the county? people will say that with the ease of transport and everything that shouldn't make a difference but it does. Limerick found the players and had all the resources on its doorstep to put a plan in place. Take an example - would a lad doing his leaving who would get the points to do a higher level course in a Dublin Uni accept a lower level one in SETU Waterford or eventually Wexford - Limerick didn't have those issues. It all makes you wonder why Dublin has not being able to get their act together in Hurling, they have the underage resources just cannot translate these to Senior. I would say that outside of Kilkenny, Tipperary and Cork (a lot of people will say that they haven't very successful recently in particular Cork but look at the stats), counties have to realise that to be successful you have to do something different - Limerick did it." That's a very interesting point. It was grand when all our best players were farmers, tradesmen and sales reps. What are they now? Wexford lads normally to well out of GAA scholarship but do they always come back? A bit of joined up thinking would be useful. SETU business school will be located in kileens. We probably need to start pushing development squad players towards financial services now. I haven't really looked into this in a long time but I remember when we played Cork in the aisf in 03. We'd played them at 21 a couple of years before. We had two of those players at senior and Cork had 8. Then again there are always exceptions. Richie lawlor was very average until minor and is arguably the best senior off that team. Roc similar. Dessy mythen was a superstar underage. Kieth Burke, Lee Murphy was the best minor in the country, John Lacey, Joe Kelly I don't know what the answer is. It's a big risk but should we just be picking out lads with good genetics at 14 or 15 and coaching them hurling every day and going all in with them for ten years? Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3838 - 02/03/2024 09:07:28 2529173 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "That's a very interesting point. It was grand when all our best players were farmers, tradesmen and sales reps. What are they now? Wexford lads normally to well out of GAA scholarship but do they always come back? A bit of joined up thinking would be useful. SETU business school will be located in kileens. We probably need to start pushing development squad players towards financial services now. I haven't really looked into this in a long time but I remember when we played Cork in the aisf in 03. We'd played them at 21 a couple of years before. We had two of those players at senior and Cork had 8. Then again there are always exceptions. Richie lawlor was very average until minor and is arguably the best senior off that team. Roc similar. Dessy mythen was a superstar underage. Kieth Burke, Lee Murphy was the best minor in the country, John Lacey, Joe Kelly I don't know what the answer is. It's a big risk but should we just be picking out lads with good genetics at 14 or 15 and coaching them hurling every day and going all in with them for ten years?" That suggestion in your last line reminds me of how the Soviet Union used to develop Olympic athletes......! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2976 - 02/03/2024 12:38:12 2529202 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "That suggestion in your last line reminds me of how the Soviet Union used to develop Olympic athletes......!" It worked;-) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16600 - 02/03/2024 15:28:19 2529229 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "That suggestion in your last line reminds me of how the Soviet Union used to develop Olympic athletes......!" Hahaha that's fair. That's basically what Limerick have done though! Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3838 - 02/03/2024 15:59:21 2529236 Link
CBD boxed for Ireland if I'm not mistaken, don't think he would've been involved with any Wexford team up until his last year at Minor in 2020. It's funny the way some players fall away who you thought were always destined to make it and then you have others who came from nowhere to play Senior for Wexford. I think Shane Reck's first involvement with Wexford might have been as a 20yo playing U21 in 2017, Eoin Ryan another who seems to have developed out of the blue ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 603 - 02/03/2024 16:13:16 2529240 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "CBD boxed for Ireland if I'm not mistaken, don't think he would've been involved with any Wexford team up until his last year at Minor in 2020. It's funny the way some players fall away who you thought were always destined to make it and then you have others who came from nowhere to play Senior for Wexford. I think Shane Reck's first involvement with Wexford might have been as a 20yo playing U21 in 2017, Eoin Ryan another who seems to have developed out of the blue" Tucker was a late developer too Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16600 - 02/03/2024 23:31:30 2529333 Link
Trying to get the calculations right in my head, I think that if we win on Sunday plus Dublin lose to Galway, we are guaranteed to be in the top division next year Big problem next Sunday will be that Waterford have been backed into a corner, they're pretty much guaranteed to be in the second division next year if they lose on Sunday barring a series of unlikely events involving Offaly beating/drawing with Cork, Dublin winning max one of their two last games, Offaly not beating Clare, and Wexford drawing with/beating Cork ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 603 - 03/03/2024 19:19:46 2529525 Link
Were there any practise matches this weekend lads? hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 03/03/2024 19:33:10 2529533 Link
Replying To hunting: "Were there any practise matches this weekend lads?" In house Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16600 - 04/03/2024 06:58:17 2529606 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Tucker was a late developer too" Hanging around Development squads from the age of 13 is not the way to go in my eyes. If lads want to box, play rugby/soccer etc during their teenage years let them at it once they are still hurling most days aswel. They can then choose and specialise around 16 or 17 and go at the hurling full time. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 970 - 04/03/2024 07:04:41 2529608 Link
Replying To Viking66: "In house" Did any of the injured players play any part in the in house match? Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/03/2024 10:54:47 2529646 Link
Replying To Afinestick: "Did any of the injured players play any part in the in house match?" Not sure I didn't go to it Afinestick. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16600 - 04/03/2024 11:54:34 2529677 Link