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Replying To tearintom: "I don't know if casey has the speed for intercounty championship hurlingjf I'm being honest, and I think reck is a fabulous player but again I don't know if he's a centre back attain level. I think Jack o Connor needs to come in, we lack size,we seem to have been breeding players that lack size and physicality in the last few years, Galway are the opposite really. If we take the same approach against Galway that we have been doing, just lamping long ball down we will,be ate alive I fear." Cathal Doyle has amazing speed and is a scoring forward, but hasn't even made the panel for the last 4 games. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15662 - 29/04/2024 07:06:54 2541346 Link
Watching the Sunday game last night, our half back back line was so poor for Antrim's goals. At one stage all 3 of them were running alongside McNaughton when he was en route to goal. Limericks half back line is the benchmark, Size, power, strong in the air and spatial awareness. Though shall not pass. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 921 - 29/04/2024 07:56:39 2541352 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Duggan Murphy, Ryan (hopefully), S Reck, O'Hanlon, D Reck, Devitt, Hearne Kevin Foley(sitting deep just in front of halfback line) Lawlor, Dwyer, Chin, Rory Byrne, Casey." I would agree with a lot of that team. We simply have to try someone else in the goals. A brilliant shot stopper but shot stopping is secondary to distribution now and to watch him play a one two with our full back line in the 2nd half and just launch the ball as far as he could over and over again was mindnumbing. We showed so little creativity with how we used the ball in the 2nd half in general. Bring in Duggan he has shown that he can spray ball around so give him a chance. I would try and O Hanlon and CB and put D Reck on the wing, I think two games is enough with Reck there, our HB line was dire the last day so changes are just crucial there. O Donoghue needs to go, hard to know what Devitt has done to find himself with no game time. Seemed very strange that Eoin R was brought on ahead of him and also very strange that Murphy was the one to be taken off. Id also consider Tucker in half forward line to add physicality. OasisorBlur (Wexford) - Posts: 51 - 29/04/2024 08:24:36 2541355 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Cathal Doyle has amazing speed and is a scoring forward, but hasn't even made the panel for the last 4 games." Seems strange viking that a lad such as Cathal Doyle who as you say has amazing speed and is a scoring forward can't even make the panel. We badly need fast scoring forwards like never before. We have tidy and neat front men but that isn't going to get us very far in championship hurling. Problem is though we are very lacking in big physical players. Jacko I believe will be available against Galway and so too will Jippo. Those two will most definately give us more power and strength in our back line and in our attack. Our lads will be hurting big time right now and I expect a big performance on Saturday. Rossi will have to make changes in personnel. What we saw in Belfast was quite simply dreadful and is just not good enough. Can we get back on track? I really don't know. Pride has been dented and surely there's much more to this team than what we witnessed over the last two weeks. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 448 - 29/04/2024 08:26:30 2541356 Link
Replying To Magpie2: "Seems strange viking that a lad such as Cathal Doyle who as you say has amazing speed and is a scoring forward can't even make the panel. We badly need fast scoring forwards like never before. We have tidy and neat front men but that isn't going to get us very far in championship hurling. Problem is though we are very lacking in big physical players. Jacko I believe will be available against Galway and so too will Jippo. Those two will most definately give us more power and strength in our back line and in our attack. Our lads will be hurting big time right now and I expect a big performance on Saturday. Rossi will have to make changes in personnel. What we saw in Belfast was quite simply dreadful and is just not good enough. Can we get back on track? I really don't know. Pride has been dented and surely there's much more to this team than what we witnessed over the last two weeks." Great news on Liam Ryan if true, I'm sure he'll be rusty if he features against Galway but with the 2 weeks break after that you'd hope he'd be firing for Carlow because most likely that'll be a Joe McDonagh shoot out by the looks of things. WEXILE_AGAIN (Wexford) - Posts: 19 - 29/04/2024 09:04:51 2541364 Link
Replying To Magpie2: "Seems strange viking that a lad such as Cathal Doyle who as you say has amazing speed and is a scoring forward can't even make the panel. We badly need fast scoring forwards like never before. We have tidy and neat front men but that isn't going to get us very far in championship hurling. Problem is though we are very lacking in big physical players. Jacko I believe will be available against Galway and so too will Jippo. Those two will most definately give us more power and strength in our back line and in our attack. Our lads will be hurting big time right now and I expect a big performance on Saturday. Rossi will have to make changes in personnel. What we saw in Belfast was quite simply dreadful and is just not good enough. Can we get back on track? I really don't know. Pride has been dented and surely there's much more to this team than what we witnessed over the last two weeks." I do believe if we had Ryan instead of Dooley the last 2 games we would have 4 points. We would've only let in 2 of the 4 goals max. Maybe less. Matthew isn't great in the fullback line he doesn't even play there for St. James. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15662 - 29/04/2024 09:11:39 2541369 Link
Replying To tearintom: "Ain't that the truth, It's actually scary how many people think if football wasn't around we would be winning all irelands left right and centre! As predictable as it is stupid! And when I generally meet these people in person they tend to be the ones who haven't a clue about the GAA in this county and do shag all to help it. Some of the posts here are fair evidence of that." We can do both of course but the udnerage season should be 11 months. i was shocked tp hear that this was not the case and that the clubs rejected co board suggestions to extend the season last year. wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 29/04/2024 09:20:50 2541370 Link
Antrim are crap, and we were crap on Saturday. Kilkenny showed how crap they are and some players only joined the panel when there was a Portuguese training camp. But we made heroes of them, through poor effort and a second rate attitude rather than us going out and putting them to the sword. The intensity of the matches yesterday was a street ahead from what I saw (falling asleep during Limerick Tipp) and there is no way anybody can say we can live with that and anyone saying we can is delusional. We did in 2019 but have not done so since against anybody bar Kilkenny teams with nothing to play for. A general point, up to this year I could have gone home for 6 weeks and played all our meaninful hurling. Even stretching it out is padding. We are trying to sit between hurling and football stools and failing at both. Its not as though we are shooting the lights out at football a la the noughties and our hurlers are brutal. We are brutal at both. I think some in Wexford don't care about being s*e once we are se at both games. We simply can't play important hurling or football for 8 weeks of the year and expect to be any good at either of them. Its just not how it works. For either game. Soccer is king in Wexford and it serves the GAA right that they mopped up the remainder of the calendar through their own inability to provide a year round calendar for players. If Lee Chin had kept playing both he might have been a good player, but since he dedicated himself to one he has become a hero saving Wexford hurling from a cataclysmic situation. One other point, I played both adult hurling and football in the county for almost 8 years and I think unlike other counties our championships completely lack cut and fire and brimstone. There was about 4-5 real scraps in that time involving our club, I know clubs in Kilkenny and Tipp where that would happen in a season. Its completely lacking in real edge and dog eat dog. Well done to the minors, they can hopefully back it up on Saturday v Galway and gave us a beacon of hope. StoreysTash (Wexford)* - Posts: 1826 - 29/04/2024 09:21:58 2541371 Link
Devastated leaving corrigan park Saturday. We just cant close out any tight games and panic. To me we are losing the battle from our half back line to half forward line . We need to add physicality and aggression to these area of the field. Have been very disappointed with management lads are performing very poorly and either they are being kept on the whole game or being brought off far too late. We need to be far more decisive on the line. 40 minutes is plenty for a lad to get into his stride and if he's not performing he shouldnt be there. We need to up our game 50% in the next 3 games to save our season. Very hard to see it now but we have to try turn this around starting on Saturday. We need Jippo and Jacko back in a bad way for a start. If there is anything in us we have to see it Saturday and our mentality in tight games has to change . Team I would go with is Duggan ( Cant see Fanning being dropped but Duggan deserves a chance) Murphy ( Awful decision to take him off when other players in the half back line were playing worse) Jippo ( We need him back so praying hes fit) S Reck Devitt ( Surprised at his lack of game time) Hanlon D Reck ( Wing back suits him much more) Hearne ( Needs to be much more decisive on the ball) Liam Og Jacko Dwyer ( Agree with Viking we need his workrate in hf line) Chin ( we need his aerial ability and physicality more in the hf line and are too predictable when he is inside) ROC ( Roaming half forward) Mac Cian Byrne Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 571 - 29/04/2024 09:27:59 2541374 Link
Replying To tearintom: "Ain't that the truth, It's actually scary how many people think if football wasn't around we would be winning all irelands left right and centre! As predictable as it is stupid! And when I generally meet these people in person they tend to be the ones who haven't a clue about the GAA in this county and do shag all to help it. Some of the posts here are fair evidence of that." I mean it's fair to say that in Wexford most players are dual players. It's also trivially obvious the more time you spend focusing on one code, the better you'll get at it. Therefore dividing your time between the two can definitely have an impact. I definitely wouldn't say that we would win All-Irelands without football, that's way too simplistic a view, but you would have to acknowledge players dividing their attention would inevitably effect their abilities in either code. I'm completed biased anyway, my own club was always a bit more football focused, always twisting my arm into playing it but I always disliked it. As long as I can remember I've never enjoyed playing or watching it. It is only fair that it's treated as equally as possible in the county, we just have to do our best with the resources and circumstances we have. Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 266 - 29/04/2024 09:40:26 2541376 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Dwyer is a good player and usually is busy. Has started more championship games than Lawlor or Casey, and maybe Devitt too. Should've started against Antrim." Tbh, he has great speed but I think he's a relatively limited hurler and playing him in the half-forward line would be a recipe for disaster given how we struggle to win ball there at the best of times ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 476 - 29/04/2024 09:48:24 2541380 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Cathal Doyle has amazing speed and is a scoring forward, but hasn't even made the panel for the last 4 games." Realistically speaking, he's too small for senior intercounty level ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 476 - 29/04/2024 09:50:05 2541381 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "One of the lads commentary yesterday said Lee Chin reminded him of Joe Canning at his peak. No slight on Lee but I'm wondering is that part of our problem. Galway when Canning was at his best were dreadful, maybe not to the level we are now, but poor all the same. I think there were lads playing for us yesterday who wanted to pass the buck constantly by whacking it in Lee's general direction. In the league we mixed it up with running through the lines and hitting the ball into space for likes of Casey or Cian Byrne to run onto. All those patterns of play seem to have disappeared with putting Lee inside, not his fault obviously but I think it's weakened the team. There was no point whacking a high ball into Casey so players had to think about what they were doing more. Rossiter had a bit of a nightmare on the line yesterday too. Byrne went very well but bringing back in Mac for Casey was a terrible decision. Out of all the defenders, how he thought Murphy was the worst one beat all. He was far too soft in not hooking a couple of them at the break, Dunbar for one. The danger signs were there in the first half. We lacked ruthlessness on the pitch and sideline I'm afraid. I'd still give us a fair chance against an average Galway team but it's time to move on from likes of Fanning, Donohue, Mac, Foley, Dunbar and McGovern. At least start some new blood anyway and keep the older lads in reserve. No idea what to do at 6" Long trip back Saturday eve and lots of time to think - agree with everything you said here Timbertony... so thought i'd reply to it. Rossi had a chance to lay down a marker with some of these players but when it came to the crunch didn't or wouldn't make the hard decisions before or during the game. We also moved totally away from league game plan on Saturday when it was the perfect time to play the running game as Antrim crowded the back so much. Instead we go lumping long balls. Mac should never have started instead of Casey. Yes Casey wasn't good against the Dubs but was fo to man in league when we needed someone so give him a go again. Gleeson made his first sub around the 30th minute son Saturday - Rossi waited until the 50+ minutes to first take off a back first (don't know how it was Murphy and not Donahue either). Then waited until the 60th minute to take off Dunbar when him especially and Mac and even Rory at nothing all of the first half. What's the point of trying lads in league if the manager is not brave enough to throw them in during champ. In the car on the way home we counted 10 lads that played in the AI Semi in 2019 and that started on Saturday - throw in Dee and Jippo and Paudie if here and that would've been 13.That's not much changing of the guard.... Some of these lads have been given far too many chances and at this stage they know they'll be given a jersey, starting spot and will last most of the game regardless of how they perform or even make an effort to run after their man. grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 180 - 29/04/2024 10:05:47 2541387 Link
Replying To tearintom: "I don't know if casey has the speed for intercounty championship hurlingjf I'm being honest, and I think reck is a fabulous player but again I don't know if he's a centre back attain level. I think Jack o Connor needs to come in, we lack size,we seem to have been breeding players that lack size and physicality in the last few years, Galway are the opposite really. If we take the same approach against Galway that we have been doing, just lamping long ball down we will,be ate alive I fear." Was Jacko on the bench at the weekend? Did seem surprising that he wasn't brought on given there were any amount of players who couldn't have complained if replaced. Rossiter had a nightmare on the line in truth. In saying all that, when has Jacko ever done it consistently for us? Has all the attributes to be a top player but something missing with him. I just hope Rossiter goes back to basics this week and picks players who will give everything for the cause v Galway. Don't care how limited they are. Shane Reck on Mannion but man to man everywhere else. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 398 - 29/04/2024 10:06:58 2541388 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I do believe if we had Ryan instead of Dooley the last 2 games we would have 4 points. We would've only let in 2 of the 4 goals max. Maybe less. Matthew isn't great in the fullback line he doesn't even play there for St. James." MOH wasn't the problem for the two goals against Antrim though and against Dublin, I'd nearly say the bigger problem was that we didn't put a sweeper back there for the last few minutes to close out the game ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 476 - 29/04/2024 10:50:48 2541410 Link
Rumour is Ryan going be at no11 when back, sounds strange though lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 243 - 29/04/2024 10:56:31 2541412 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "MOH wasn't the problem for the two goals against Antrim though and against Dublin, I'd nearly say the bigger problem was that we didn't put a sweeper back there for the last few minutes to close out the game" MOH would've won that ball that Dooley didn't for the 2nd goal against Antrim Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15662 - 29/04/2024 11:06:07 2541415 Link
Lads on here watch wexford play and still think jacko shouldnt be a starter. Wow. Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 268 - 29/04/2024 11:20:53 2541418 Link
Replying To lefty: "Rumour is Ryan going be at no11 when back, sounds strange though" I really hope that's not true he is not a forward Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 571 - 29/04/2024 11:25:41 2541420 Link
Replying To Afinestick96: "Devastated leaving corrigan park Saturday. We just cant close out any tight games and panic. To me we are losing the battle from our half back line to half forward line . We need to add physicality and aggression to these area of the field. Have been very disappointed with management lads are performing very poorly and either they are being kept on the whole game or being brought off far too late. We need to be far more decisive on the line. 40 minutes is plenty for a lad to get into his stride and if he's not performing he shouldnt be there. We need to up our game 50% in the next 3 games to save our season. Very hard to see it now but we have to try turn this around starting on Saturday. We need Jippo and Jacko back in a bad way for a start. If there is anything in us we have to see it Saturday and our mentality in tight games has to change . Team I would go with is Duggan ( Cant see Fanning being dropped but Duggan deserves a chance) Murphy ( Awful decision to take him off when other players in the half back line were playing worse) Jippo ( We need him back so praying hes fit) S Reck Devitt ( Surprised at his lack of game time) Hanlon D Reck ( Wing back suits him much more) Hearne ( Needs to be much more decisive on the ball) Liam Og Jacko Dwyer ( Agree with Viking we need his workrate in hf line) Chin ( we need his aerial ability and physicality more in the hf line and are too predictable when he is inside) ROC ( Roaming half forward) Mac Cian Byrne" Very sensible post......it was tough stuff leaving Corrigan Park on Saturday. buckler91 (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 29/04/2024 11:33:10 2541426 Link