National Forum

Sanctions For Playing In America For The Summer

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Can anyone give some information on sanctions for the summer.
As far as i was aware, a player who plays inter county championship in a year is not entitled to get a sanction to play in america.
Jack Bryant and Rory Egan both have featured for Offaly but announced last week that theyre heading over to play for the summer?

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 17/05/2023 15:52:02    2479278

Link

Replying To honda15:  "Can anyone give some information on sanctions for the summer.
As far as i was aware, a player who plays inter county championship in a year is not entitled to get a sanction to play in america.
Jack Bryant and Rory Egan both have featured for Offaly but announced last week that theyre heading over to play for the summer?"
honda15 there is loads of rumours around our own county of lads heading off to play football in the US and then returning to play club championship at home, in my opinion i feel that the GAA needs to sort out this mess! every young lad is dead right to head away for a once in a life time experience but no way should be playing for 2 different clubs in the space of a few weeks!!

Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 87 - 18/05/2023 09:44:09    2479354

Link

Replying To Garmin:  "honda15 there is loads of rumours around our own county of lads heading off to play football in the US and then returning to play club championship at home, in my opinion i feel that the GAA needs to sort out this mess! every young lad is dead right to head away for a once in a life time experience but no way should be playing for 2 different clubs in the space of a few weeks!!"
Why shouldnt they be able to play for 2 different clubs in 2 different countries who will never be playing against each other in competition.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3513 - 18/05/2023 10:43:43    2479371

Link

Replying To Garmin:  "honda15 there is loads of rumours around our own county of lads heading off to play football in the US and then returning to play club championship at home, in my opinion i feel that the GAA needs to sort out this mess! every young lad is dead right to head away for a once in a life time experience but no way should be playing for 2 different clubs in the space of a few weeks!!"
Don't know what the big deal is with them playing for different clubs in different continents in different competitions?

There is an exception for players who have already been part of an inter county championshop squad. Basically, if you're a student on a J1 visa you are permitted to play for another club in the US, even if you've been a part of a county squad already in the year.

[url=]https://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/rules-regulations/overseas-sanctions

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 18/05/2023 11:13:34    2479382

Link

Replying To Lockjaw:  "Don't know what the big deal is with them playing for different clubs in different continents in different competitions?

There is an exception for players who have already been part of an inter county championshop squad. Basically, if you're a student on a J1 visa you are permitted to play for another club in the US, even if you've been a part of a county squad already in the year.

Lockjaw the rule only applies once your county is knocked out.
Both Egan and Bryant have featured this year and Offaly arent out so this is where my question lies.
Also agree playing for the club makes no odds really as club championships are only getting going by the time they are back.

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 18/05/2023 11:40:05    2479389

Link

Replying To honda15:  "
Replying To Lockjaw:  "Don't know what the big deal is with them playing for different clubs in different continents in different competitions?

There is an exception for players who have already been part of an inter county championshop squad. Basically, if you're a student on a J1 visa you are permitted to play for another club in the US, even if you've been a part of a county squad already in the year.

Lockjaw the rule only applies once your county is knocked out.
Both Egan and Bryant have featured this year and Offaly arent out so this is where my question lies.
Also agree playing for the club makes no odds really as club championships are only getting going by the time they are back."
Yeah I should have added that bit as well. Your county has to be fully out before the sanction can be approved. So it'll all depend on how Offaly get on in the TC I suppose.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 18/05/2023 12:20:49    2479400

Link

The fact that it's semi professional doesn't seem to upset anyone not even the "pure gaels" to whom the Amateur Erhos is the be all and end all.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1448 - 18/05/2023 12:40:47    2479412

Link

What's so wrong with the odd few playing in the US and then coming home and playing in Ireland later in the year?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 18/05/2023 13:09:24    2479417

Link

Replying To Garmin:  "honda15 there is loads of rumours around our own county of lads heading off to play football in the US and then returning to play club championship at home, in my opinion i feel that the GAA needs to sort out this mess! every young lad is dead right to head away for a once in a life time experience but no way should be playing for 2 different clubs in the space of a few weeks!!"
Can their own clubs object to this?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1916 - 18/05/2023 13:30:22    2479420

Link

Replying To honda15:  "Can anyone give some information on sanctions for the summer.
As far as i was aware, a player who plays inter county championship in a year is not entitled to get a sanction to play in america.
Jack Bryant and Rory Egan both have featured for Offaly but announced last week that theyre heading over to play for the summer?"
Players on inter county panels can get sanctions to USGAA as long as they are in college and can't play until county is out of the championship Think these lads went to Parnells in Chicago

louthspeaker (Louth) - Posts: 41 - 19/05/2023 14:37:12    2479661

Link

Replying To honda15:  "Can anyone give some information on sanctions for the summer.
As far as i was aware, a player who plays inter county championship in a year is not entitled to get a sanction to play in america.
Jack Bryant and Rory Egan both have featured for Offaly but announced last week that theyre heading over to play for the summer?"
Can't play in NY though if you are on a County panel

louthspeaker (Louth) - Posts: 41 - 19/05/2023 14:37:51    2479662

Link

The big issue isn't the lads going put in the summer legally it's the illegal inter county transfers that transfer out in March and aren't legally resident in America

louthspeaker (Louth) - Posts: 41 - 19/05/2023 14:39:28    2479663

Link

Replying To louthspeaker:  "Players on inter county panels can get sanctions to USGAA as long as they are in college and can't play until county is out of the championship Think these lads went to Parnells in Chicago"
Does this mean they have to wait for offaly to be knocked out to play? Because they both played championship

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 22/05/2023 09:47:08    2480316

Link

Replying To MesAmis:  "What's so wrong with the odd few playing in the US and then coming home and playing in Ireland later in the year?"
Can only speak for my own club but after covid a few lads have done this every year since. They leave and other lads play away in the league and when the americans come back the lads that were playing get dropped for championship/league semis - the first year it happened it put a few noses out of joint but the last two years it's led to a exodus of players from the panel. Numbers at training have gone from high 30's to in and around 20 - before the chosen few head off… The club is blind to it and can't understand why numbers are so low at training. I'd imagine there's a few other set ups experiencing the same?

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 152 - 22/05/2023 11:29:10    2480414

Link

Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Can only speak for my own club but after covid a few lads have done this every year since. They leave and other lads play away in the league and when the americans come back the lads that were playing get dropped for championship/league semis - the first year it happened it put a few noses out of joint but the last two years it's led to a exodus of players from the panel. Numbers at training have gone from high 30's to in and around 20 - before the chosen few head off… The club is blind to it and can't understand why numbers are so low at training. I'd imagine there's a few other set ups experiencing the same?"
I understand it's hard on the lads who remain at home but you won't stop young lads heading away each summer. It's a great experience for those that can do it and I'd encourage any young lad to do it if they have the opportunity.

So the options would appear to be:
1. A ban on any sanctions/transfers for young students playing summer football in the US - this would be a terrible idea in my opinion.

2. Club managers at home sticking by the lads who have played league all summer and bench the returning students.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 22/05/2023 12:08:29    2480440

Link

Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Can only speak for my own club but after covid a few lads have done this every year since. They leave and other lads play away in the league and when the americans come back the lads that were playing get dropped for championship/league semis - the first year it happened it put a few noses out of joint but the last two years it's led to a exodus of players from the panel. Numbers at training have gone from high 30's to in and around 20 - before the chosen few head off… The club is blind to it and can't understand why numbers are so low at training. I'd imagine there's a few other set ups experiencing the same?"
I get that those who remain would feel put out by the returning players taking their places but a club is entitled to put their best 15 players out, so if you're not good enough to start you can't have any complaints imo.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1731 - 22/05/2023 13:03:36    2480482

Link

Replying To Lockjaw:  "I understand it's hard on the lads who remain at home but you won't stop young lads heading away each summer. It's a great experience for those that can do it and I'd encourage any young lad to do it if they have the opportunity.

So the options would appear to be:
1. A ban on any sanctions/transfers for young students playing summer football in the US - this would be a terrible idea in my opinion.

2. Club managers at home sticking by the lads who have played league all summer and bench the returning students."
I understand it's hard on the lads who remain at home but you won't stop young lads heading away each summer. It's a great experience for those that can do it and I'd encourage any young lad to do it if they have the opportunity.

So the options would appear to be:
1. A ban on any sanctions/transfers for young students playing summer football in the US - this would be a terrible idea in my opinion.

2. Club managers at home sticking by the lads who have played league all summer and bench the returning students.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8504 - 22/05/2023 12:08:29

1. Definitely not it's a great experience for any young lad.

2. The lads who are getting the game time should be grateful of it as if the lads didn't head off for the summer they would be sitting on the bench.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 850 - 22/05/2023 13:07:55    2480485

Link

The GAA transfer list and sanctions list doesn't seem to be public anymore - could always see it but link doesnt work anymore.
Anyone know why this is? Nice to see what big names are heading to the states on it.

ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 29 - 02/06/2023 10:00:30    2483507

Link

Replying To ball1:  "The GAA transfer list and sanctions list doesn't seem to be public anymore - could always see it but link doesnt work anymore.
Anyone know why this is? Nice to see what big names are heading to the states on it."
Croke Park claims they are "experiencing technical difficulties" and are working feverishly to rectify the problem. A week now.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 02/06/2023 16:54:44    2483623

Link

Replying To Gaa Fan:  "Croke Park claims they are "experiencing technical difficulties" and are working feverishly to rectify the problem. A week now."
Sites are still off line. Bets are that they will appear again after the Carlow v New York game.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 06/06/2023 16:27:45    2484486

Link