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When You See That Horrible Football (Over And Back ) Now Played People Will Soon Need To Be Payed To Go To A Game

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Oooooooh!!! Fair play PoolSturgeon. Be careful. Hurling people don't respond well to criticism of the game."
That's because generally the people who criticise the game are people that know very little about it. Simple.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2005 - 09/02/2023 17:24:44    2457520

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Marty Morrissey failed in his job last year when commentating the Ulster final. A commentators job is to make a game sound exciting even when it isn't but all Marty could do was complain about how bad the game was for the neutral."
FFs will ye stop blaming poor aul Marty for everything including the state of football. Hes job is to portray whats happening on the field and not make it exciting for you when it clearly wasnt.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 705 - 09/02/2023 18:12:31    2457530

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Football has never been healthier, take a look at the crowds and we're only over the second round league games. people were blowing about football 2 years ago. Dublin were the best team ever to play the game, What has changed? Nothing , just Dublin aren't champions.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2097 - 09/02/2023 18:32:30    2457538

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Marty Morrissey failed in his job last year when commentating the Ulster final. A commentators job is to make a game sound exciting even when it isn't but all Marty could do was complain about how bad the game was for the neutral."
A commentators job is to comment on what's going on in front of him. People aren't stupid, they would see through that.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 305 - 09/02/2023 18:39:01    2457540

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Replying To Temple56:  "Yes football has become more possession based but so has must field sports around the world.

I don't think managers are telling our players not to kick the ball I just think there is a fear within players that if they turnover the ball it will result in a score.

Try and watch a match from 20 years and look at the quality of football and how much better it is now. You had massive amount of wide's and turnovers. Players just kicking the ball out of defense without lifting there heads.


The All Ireland series last year was a great watch with some brilliant scores and movement of the ball."
Are you for real… of course coaches and managers are stopping players from kicking the ball… It's all gone to a game of no risks which has turned it into a boring spectacle… In nearly all games covered now you can clearly hear players and mentors shouting instructions as the crowd is so silent… Is that not enough to tell you they are bored out of their wits… Mistakes and risk taking makes any sport exciting and therefore entertaining… Gaelic football is the exact opposite and therefore boring to watch.. and I dare say boring to play as well….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2323 - 09/02/2023 18:46:43    2457541

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Tomsmith here

I have read over and over again your comments , some intelligent contributions and some of the other type particularly one ..
I feel that the Coaches who set out to change/alter/ destroy the Gaa game as we used to know it should be ousted from the Gaa
If a number of people did this to the National Sport in any other Country , if would be considered ( What will I xall it) a crime

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3923 - 09/02/2023 21:18:43    2457553

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You're missing the point badly KillingFields. The game is evolving itself. The vast majority of the rule changes in the recent past have been well intentioned but ill judged. The offensive mark is a case in point. That was followed by the defensive mark which epitomised how ridiculous some of the rule changes were and continue to be. Let the game evolve itself. There has been far too much tinkering with the playing rules. Most certainly you can look at player behaviour and introduce rules to deal with that. One intervention that is urgently needed is in relation to how substitutions are made.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5881 - 09/02/2023 11:14:46

Im missing nothing actually. the mark should have been a good thing but its implentation and management of it has been poor. the game wont evolve itself for a long time and that wont be for good of game especially in an era where the sport faces far more challengers/challenges than any time in the past.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3575 - 09/02/2023 22:01:53    2457563

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I have read over and over again your comments , some intelligent contributions and some of the other type particularly one ..
I feel that the Coaches who set out to change/alter/ destroy the Gaa game as we used to know it should be ousted from the Gaa
If a number of people did this to the National Sport in any other Country , if would be considered ( What will I xall it) a crime"
Todays game is 10 times the game played in the past, give me a Division 4 game today over the "great " 47 final any day.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2097 - 10/02/2023 08:51:15    2457569

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I sometimes think in todays game there is too much emphasis put on being an athlete rather than a footballer. I know the game has changed immensely but I think with the fitness levels there are some managers who prefer to pick a guy who can run all day rather than one who has undoubted better skills. Hence we have half fowards collecting the ball in their own half, the ball is then circulated there for five minutes, the opposition get time to regroup and ball seldom gets up to the foward line. I think a team that can perfect the long ball approach by getting the ball in early to a forward line, with genuine forwards, will go far. What I mean by genuine forwards is people who know how to play there not people who have been manufactured to play there because they are fitter.

Ronanthehammer (Down) - Posts: 48 - 10/02/2023 09:50:31    2457581

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Todays game is 10 times the game played in the past, give me a Division 4 game today over the "great " 47 final any day."
Why do people engage with this poster? Maybe he had a funny moment back in the day, but he's just trolling you. Tomsmith is a Monaghan supporter who has an unhealthy obsession with Cavan. Its time he found a new hobby.

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 10/02/2023 09:56:08    2457586

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This is trolling nonsense from this idiot called Tom Smith. He is just bitter because his county Cavan is not good at Gaelic football. A bit like Meath really. Has beens.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2541 - 10/02/2023 10:13:50    2457593

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Replying To galwayford:  "This is trolling nonsense from this idiot called Tom Smith. He is just bitter because his county Cavan is not good at Gaelic football. A bit like Meath really. Has beens."
agree with most of what you said regarding the poster and meath (although that is trolling in itself) but cavan won a provincial championship recently unlike meath, and think they would have a few more if they had to play new york or leitrim in the final......who knows

DCFCGAA (Derry) - Posts: 65 - 10/02/2023 11:10:54    2457608

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Replying To Greengrass:  "There are a lot more spoofers pontificating on Hoganstand."
Ouch!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9352 - 10/02/2023 11:30:35    2457613

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Replying To DCFCGAA:  "agree with most of what you said regarding the poster and meath (although that is trolling in itself) but cavan won a provincial championship recently unlike meath, and think they would have a few more if they had to play new york or leitrim in the final......who knows"
Ding Ding...."Seconds out" - Round 2

ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 229 - 10/02/2023 11:31:54    2457614

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Replying To galwayford:  "This is trolling nonsense from this idiot called Tom Smith. He is just bitter because his county Cavan is not good at Gaelic football. A bit like Meath really. Has beens."
He's from Monaghan actually. Also, after posting that, there's a certain irony to you calling him a troll! Galway haven't won a championship in over 20 years. You're not exactly tearing it up either!!

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 10/02/2023 11:48:06    2457618

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Replying To DCFCGAA:  "agree with most of what you said regarding the poster and meath (although that is trolling in itself) but cavan won a provincial championship recently unlike meath, and think they would have a few more if they had to play new york or leitrim in the final......who knows"
Tomsmith is from Monaghan.

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 10/02/2023 11:48:50    2457619

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Replying To galwayford:  "This is trolling nonsense from this idiot called Tom Smith. He is just bitter because his county Cavan is not good at Gaelic football. A bit like Meath really. Has beens."
Love how you've managed to squeeze in a pop at Meath in a thread where we haven't even been mentioned once. :)

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 10/02/2023 12:09:48    2457623

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I loved the old game, all the aimless shooting and passing, players who got the ball and their first thought was get rid of it, anywhere, somewhere, like a hot potato they were holding.
I mean, god forbid a player in hurling or football would think for a second about where they were playing the ball to.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1238 - 10/02/2023 12:25:26    2457632

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Replying To galwayford:  "This is trolling nonsense from this idiot called Tom Smith. He is just bitter because his county Cavan is not good at Gaelic football. A bit like Meath really. Has beens."
It's not saying much for those poster's intelligence that engage with him / her, it has nothing to do with football good or bad, in truth it's probably, - - -

tomsmith (Cavan) aka KillingFields (Limerick)

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2955 - 10/02/2023 12:33:37    2457634

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Marty Morrissey failed in his job last year when commentating the Ulster final. A commentators job is to make a game sound exciting even when it isn't but all Marty could do was complain about how bad the game was for the neutral."
Commentating on that 'excessive passing about' is difficult enough, but if you charge them with the task of pretending it's entertaining as well, that could be a bridge too far. Might need to bring in Conor Moore, or Mario, on co-comn to give yourself any chance with that.

Pat to Mike to Martin to Stephen back to Pat etc and on and on....sometimes for 2or3 minutes.....or is it less, but feels like 2or3mins watching it....wheres the fun in that?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3718 - 10/02/2023 12:46:05    2457640

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