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I really don't understand this. Third person on here that have said "the local lads on the radio said the ref was biased towards Leitrim so it must be true" (I've paraphrased).

Free's given to Wexford - 21
Free's given to Leitrim - 10
*Source was Wexford GAA twitter page. Think he might've been leaning your way.

The referee had to officiate a very physical game. In my opinion he made 4 mistakes that would have changed the outcome of the game.

1. Wexford number 15 struck Leitrim number 10 twice in the face in front of the linesman. They weren't punches but still it's a striking action and should have been a red card.
2. Leitrim goal ruled as a square ball. From my angle he was outside the box.
3. Leitrim number 6 should have received a second yellow for a high tackle
4. Penalty given was soft. Possibly a push/pull from Wexford fullback but it didn't look like a penalty.

This goes on in our own forum too. Lad's who don't even attend the match but think they can give an opinion on how someone played, how the referee was etc. Fair enough you can commentate on the penalty situation because it was filmed but that's it.

Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 240 - 20/02/2024 15:09:00    2527210

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Can't remember the last time a Wexford football match provoked such discussion here, especially with people from the other county!

Anyway - maybe for some further clarity and context -

I was listening to South East Radio and I've honestly no recollection of any commentator being so strong in his words as to say the referee was biased against Wexford. Yes, there were some comments that questioned certain decisions (either some of the frees awarded to Leitrim, or times a free wasn't awarded to us), but that's par for the course on local radio.

Commentary about the penalty was just along the lines of "did you see what that was for?", and "no, I don't know what it was for either". And in fairness, I'd say the small bit of a tug that led to the penalty wasn't spotted by too many as it happened.

As regards "the national media taking it up", all I've seen is a few places (including the news section of this site) running stories about tweets posted by two former players who can be....let's say "outspoken". One of them in particular. Not that I'd criticise them for that, because both are passionate about Wexford football, and it's a pity we don't have more of that passion. But my main point is that in fairness, neither our team nor our Co. Board have been griping on about it or running to the media to complain.

Look - you win some, you lose some. Sometimes the big decision goes your way, and sometimes it goes the other way. It's just that as Viking pointed out about, it was particularly hard to take in Wexford this week, after video evidence clearly showed we were hard done by with another refereeing decision in our hurling match against Offaly the previous weekend.

Good luck to Leitrim for the rest of the campaign, and you're definitely in the box seat for promotion right now. But, I have to be honest, and don't take it personally - I still have to hope you lose a couple of matches somewhere along the way, so that we might get back into the mix too!"
No I don't take that personally. We would be the exact same.We ofcourse want you to beat Tipp Carlow and Wexford as we have the head to head.We will probably meet again in the Tailteann Cup.

I agree your manager and team took it as it was and didn't go over the top about it.

Your comments about other so called stars going wild are interesting .

Good luck to your hurlers too.Leitrim would tend to support them

joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 463 - 20/02/2024 15:20:04    2527213

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Replying To Leitrimforliam:  "I really don't understand this. Third person on here that have said "the local lads on the radio said the ref was biased towards Leitrim so it must be true" (I've paraphrased).

Free's given to Wexford - 21
Free's given to Leitrim - 10
*Source was Wexford GAA twitter page. Think he might've been leaning your way.

The referee had to officiate a very physical game. In my opinion he made 4 mistakes that would have changed the outcome of the game.

1. Wexford number 15 struck Leitrim number 10 twice in the face in front of the linesman. They weren't punches but still it's a striking action and should have been a red card.
2. Leitrim goal ruled as a square ball. From my angle he was outside the box.
3. Leitrim number 6 should have received a second yellow for a high tackle
4. Penalty given was soft. Possibly a push/pull from Wexford fullback but it didn't look like a penalty.

This goes on in our own forum too. Lad's who don't even attend the match but think they can give an opinion on how someone played, how the referee was etc. Fair enough you can commentate on the penalty situation because it was filmed but that's it."
Just to throw another cat among the pigeons :)

With regard to your number 2 (Leitrim goal that was ruled out for a square ball offence) - friend of mine who was at it, and who tends to be an honest and fair observer of both football and hurling, tells me that the square ball decision looked dubious from his viewpoint all right.

But he also tells me he thought there was a fairly blatant push in the back on a Wexford man that allowed Leitrim to gain possession and start the move that led to the disallowed goal.

As regards the free count and how just taking the figures alone would actually suggest bias in favour of Wexford - he feels there were far more "soft" frees awarded against Leitrim all right, but some more serious things went unpunished, like that push in the back and the incident that you say should have led to a second yellow card for your number 6.

Finally, I don't know if he's doing the old Arsene Wenger thing or not, but he says he didn't actually see the Ben Brosnan (our number 15) incident that you mention.

Anyway....can't help thinking we'd do some amount of talking if we ever met in a closely-contested final or some other bigger match!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 20/02/2024 16:25:32    2527227

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Definitely a penalty? No wonder New York beat ye, clueless about football."
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WONDERING WOULD ANYONE GO THERE!!! GOOD ONE

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 20/02/2024 16:27:11    2527228

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Thought disallowing the goal for a square ball was the correct decision. One of the few he had.

SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 395 - 20/02/2024 17:39:03    2527242

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Just to throw another cat among the pigeons :)

With regard to your number 2 (Leitrim goal that was ruled out for a square ball offence) - friend of mine who was at it, and who tends to be an honest and fair observer of both football and hurling, tells me that the square ball decision looked dubious from his viewpoint all right.

But he also tells me he thought there was a fairly blatant push in the back on a Wexford man that allowed Leitrim to gain possession and start the move that led to the disallowed goal.

As regards the free count and how just taking the figures alone would actually suggest bias in favour of Wexford - he feels there were far more "soft" frees awarded against Leitrim all right, but some more serious things went unpunished, like that push in the back and the incident that you say should have led to a second yellow card for your number 6.

Finally, I don't know if he's doing the old Arsene Wenger thing or not, but he says he didn't actually see the Ben Brosnan (our number 15) incident that you mention.

Anyway....can't help thinking we'd do some amount of talking if we ever met in a closely-contested final or some other bigger match!"
I'm not saying that the higher free count in favour of Wexford suggested any bias from the referee. I believe it is because you had more possession so we fouled you more and our defense is poor and continuously gave away soft frees.

If Leitrim was as good at football as we are at talking football we'd be among the best. It definitely will make it interesting if we meet in the T Cup. Best of luck for the rest of league would hope ye get promoted if we don't.

Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 240 - 20/02/2024 17:52:20    2527247

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I see the team announced for Saturday's match v Waterford. Good to see Mark Rossiter in line for a start again.

I notice though that there's no number 16, and instead the subs run from 17 to 27. Surely tells its own story about the goalkeeper situation.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 23/02/2024 10:02:00    2527662

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I see the team announced for Saturday's match v Waterford. Good to see Mark Rossiter in line for a start again.

I notice though that there's no number 16, and instead the subs run from 17 to 27. Surely tells its own story about the goalkeeper situation."
The goalkeeper situation is very strange.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1338 - 23/02/2024 10:15:14    2527668

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I see the team announced for Saturday's match v Waterford. Good to see Mark Rossiter in line for a start again.

I notice though that there's no number 16, and instead the subs run from 17 to 27. Surely tells its own story about the goalkeeper situation."
The goalkeeper situation is very strange.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1338 - 23/02/2024 12:07:52    2527690

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3 goalies in the panel at the start of the season, 1 is injured and another left the panel of his own accord just before the national league.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1727 - 23/02/2024 13:22:54    2527708

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "3 goalies in the panel at the start of the season, 1 is injured and another left the panel of his own accord just before the national league."
Yes, but I'd consider it unusual that another one hasn't been drafted in, so that we'd have at least some cover by a recognised goalkeeper. Your guess is as good as mine as regards what the Plan B is if Tubritt happened to get injured during a game.

Wonder might it be the case that others were approached but turned it down?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 23/02/2024 17:36:38    2527754

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "3 goalies in the panel at the start of the season, 1 is injured and another left the panel of his own accord just before the national league."
nevin rossiter has being sub keeper the last 2 days, showed up very well in training i hear, great kick out, injuried gor tomorrow , feeney sub keeper tomorrow

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 23/02/2024 19:39:12    2527769

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Yes, but I'd consider it unusual that another one hasn't been drafted in, so that we'd have at least some cover by a recognised goalkeeper. Your guess is as good as mine as regards what the Plan B is if Tubritt happened to get injured during a game.

Wonder might it be the case that others were approached but turned it down?"
Could be the case, usually a good bit of turnover of 2nd and 3rd choice keepers in county squads, any lad coming in might think their 3rd in the peaking order so might not be willing to commit.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1727 - 23/02/2024 22:22:42    2527787

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "nevin rossiter has being sub keeper the last 2 days, showed up very well in training i hear, great kick out, injuried gor tomorrow , feeney sub keeper tomorrow"
Naomhan Rossiter wasn't in the squad for the Leitrim match. Feeney is not in the squad for the Waterford match (or not the squad named on social media anyway)

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 24/02/2024 10:47:26    2527823

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Good second half performance with plenty of pace and power. I hope we don't regret the goals missed at the end of the season. We'll done to the players and management for getting over the last day!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11877 - 24/02/2024 19:57:08    2527892

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Naomhan Rossiter wasn't in the squad for the Leitrim match. Feeney is not in the squad for the Waterford match (or not the squad named on social media anyway)"
dont know then, thats what a player told me in pettits one day

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 25/02/2024 09:07:29    2527952

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Looking at the Carlow Leitrim result today makes the phantom penalty award from the game last weekend even more infuriating in all honesty.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1338 - 25/02/2024 20:19:26    2528108

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "dont know then, thats what a player told me in pettits one day"
Rossiter was the back-up 'keeper against Laois all right, but hasn't been in the squad since. Don't know how far Darragh Brooks is from recovery, but if he doesn't make it for next week v Carlow, will be interesting to see if there's somebody else drafted in instead to provide some cover.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 25/02/2024 21:16:24    2528128

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Replying To tearintom:  "Looking at the Carlow Leitrim result today makes the phantom penalty award from the game last weekend even more infuriating in all honesty."
There's a chance we could win our next three games, finish on 10 points, and be denied promotion mainly because of that penalty decision. Would be a tough one to take.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2249 - 25/02/2024 21:17:09    2528129

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "There's a chance we could win our next three games, finish on 10 points, and be denied promotion mainly because of that penalty decision. Would be a tough one to take."
If we finish on 10 points we will go up. How about that for positive thinking Pikeman;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11877 - 26/02/2024 08:07:41    2528187

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