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Replying To SouthGalway: "I agree with your post 100%. And you're not alone as the following from The Irish Times points out: "There were 213,738 invalid votes, the highest number in a modern Irish election, as many voters expressed anger and frustration at the choice of candidates on the ballot and the exclusion of others."" All the political parties messed it up, there is not one that comes out of this election with their grassroots happy. The smaller parties i can understand as the cost of running their own would be too great but ibam not sure all the left leaning voters were happy with their endorsement of CC. For me all the parties let down thei public on this one. CC could be a great president and I hope for the countrys sake she is. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2106 - 27/10/2025 16:35:04 2641877 Link
Replying To Scenicparish: "Ganley had his own group, there is no doubt about that. I think it started off by people saying that they would vote for Gavin even when he withdrew his name. Ganley didn't influence them? I also know a few SF supporters that were not happy because they themselves didn't chose a canditate when they seen who FF and FG selected. Ganley didn't influence them either?" The SF supporters not happy were a very small minority . TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8591 - 27/10/2025 17:34:26 2641885 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "The SF supporters not happy were a very small minority ." They weren't a small minority in the North West or Dublin. Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 771 - 27/10/2025 17:49:01 2641889 Link
Replying To zinny: "All the political parties messed it up, there is not one that comes out of this election with their grassroots happy. The smaller parties i can understand as the cost of running their own would be too great but ibam not sure all the left leaning voters were happy with their endorsement of CC. For me all the parties let down thei public on this one. CC could be a great president and I hope for the countrys sake she is." Sean Kelly has spoken out today which paints the FG process in a poor light. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6615 - 27/10/2025 17:49:27 2641890 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "The SF supporters not happy were a very small minority ." Are you one or is this another of your Dev like intuitions? Was talking to a few in very strong areas and they are not a bit pleased. They see it as opening the door for Labour, soc Dems and PBP who they loathe as much as 90% of the rest of population. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3770 - 27/10/2025 17:54:01 2641892 Link
Replying To Scenicparish: "They weren't a small minority in the North West or Dublin." I was in the Dungloe area for the election. In hindsight they are actually happy there anyway. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8591 - 27/10/2025 18:09:17 2641894 Link
Replying To slayer: "Sean Kelly has spoken out today which paints the FG process in a poor light." Once Mairéad McGuinness had to drop out they were done for, though Kelly would have done better than Humphreys. Almost like some within Fianna Fâil and Fine Gael were conspiring against their leadership. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8313 - 27/10/2025 18:30:23 2641900 Link
SF were never going to run Mary Lou or Doherty so I really don't know what the grassroots expected. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8591 - 27/10/2025 18:37:40 2641901 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Actually no. I am referring to the civil unrest Trump and his buddies are working on all the time. They are actually creating a huge division between Americans. And a huge, huge number of those people are ill informed. We are going down the same road here. Please point out where I am wrong in relation to the spoil the vote campaign and the language used by their supporters and Declan Ganley. I can't tell you how many times the word rigged was used by him. Straight from the Trump playbook. Can you not see that ?" You are highly ignorant of what's going on in the US. Did you say the same thing about the division that Obama spread? It seems to some that only one side causes strife in the US. Then again I'm not surprised with what the Irish media says. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 19:06:19 2641905 Link
Replying To cluichethar: "You are highly ignorant of what's going on in the US. Did you say the same thing about the division that Obama spread? It seems to some that only one side causes strife in the US. Then again I'm not surprised with what the Irish media says." I am not highly ignorant of what's going on in the US. I used to live there. The change in the past few years is frightening. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8591 - 27/10/2025 19:15:43 2641909 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Again you ignore my overall point. Not everyone who spoilt their vote is stupid. And not everyone who voted Republican in America is stupid. But please keep putting words in my mouth. Cheers. The campaign was led by Declan Ganley and Maria Steen supporters. And the language used is identical to what Trump and his team used in America. How anyone can have no confidence in Catherine Connolly is beyond me? For a largely ceremonial role. I can't stand Harris or Martin by the way. And Mary Lou would have walked in had she ran. And I am not a Sinn Fein voter either but I would have voted for her. You seem to think I am of a certain political persuasion. I am not and very open minded." You have an unusual idea of open minded. I have as much confidence in Catherine Connolly as I have in Michael D Higgins and I have zero confidence in him. A rigged election comes in many guises RTE put their finger on the voting scales when Michael D won his first term and nothing happened to them when they admitted it. Simon Harris and Micheal Martin done the same this election by invoking the Party Whip. The President of Ireland is supposed to be Apolitical but it has been made highly political and I don't believe for a second that CC will have the concerns of the Irish people at the front of her mind cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 19:20:36 2641910 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "You are obviously of a certain political persuasion. People are as entitled to point that out to you as you are to invariably respond with ad hominem remarks." He most certainly isn't center never mind center right cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 19:21:47 2641911 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Again you fail to acknowledge or debate my main point. The spoil the vote campaign was led by people who copied the Trump playbook. Word for word." Good Lord the spoil the vote people didn't like what was done during the nominating period and didn't want either CC or HH seeing both as undesirable. So what would you have done in the same position, stayed home drinking tea? cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 19:25:48 2641913 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "I am not denying that but are you trying to deny the idea wasn't started by Ganley etc. Even the # on Twitter. I find it almost funny people are trying to claim they all independently would have done it themselves. They may have abstained but not spoilt." And what if it was started by Ganley or Dustin The Turkey. A lot of people were talking about spoiling the vote before Ganley said a word but he has a bigger social media profile than most so he went to the front. Maria Steen for the most part stayed out of it cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 19:29:42 2641915 Link
The idea that Catherine Connolly was an independent was a joke, she had the backing of all the left wing parties left of FF FG. She became the DeFacto nominee of Sinn Fein. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 19:35:22 2641916 Link
Replying To cluichethar: "The idea that Catherine Connolly was an independent was a joke, she had the backing of all the left wing parties left of FF FG. She became the DeFacto nominee of Sinn Fein." You do know Catherine Connolly has been an Independent TD for many years since she left the Labour Party? SF hummed and hawed for months but seem to think Mary Lou has a bigger job down the line. They then jumped on the Connolly bandwagon after the Social Democrats, Labour, PBP and the Green Party. As per usual SF like to put their own pathetic little spin on things. She wasn't the SF nominee Cumann1 (Mayo) - Posts: 105 - 27/10/2025 20:20:40 2641922 Link
Replying To Cumann1: "You do know Catherine Connolly has been an Independent TD for many years since she left the Labour Party? SF hummed and hawed for months but seem to think Mary Lou has a bigger job down the line. They then jumped on the Connolly bandwagon after the Social Democrats, Labour, PBP and the Green Party. As per usual SF like to put their own pathetic little spin on things. She wasn't the SF nominee" None of the far left parties and these include SF, SDs Labour & the PBPs put forth a candidate they all back CC thus making her their candidate. Saying you're an independent is one thing acting independent is something totally different. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 20:38:30 2641923 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "I am not highly ignorant of what's going on in the US. I used to live there. The change in the past few years is frightening." Frightening compared to what? The good old days when their southern border was wide open for Fentanyl and human trafficking and cartels, etc? The auditing of the government by doge so they cant just burn through tax payers money at will? Deporting gang members to where they came from? Snap out of it please. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 82 - 27/10/2025 20:41:29 2641924 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Declan Ganley is the person behind Maria Steen. PR wise and funding. But i am sure you knew that....." What do you mean by saying he's the person behind Maria Steen? From what I've seen Maria Steen is quite capable of standing on her own two feet as Micheál Martin found out when he debated her on tv. One might take what you said as a way to diminish Maria Steen in her own right but I hope that isn't what you're trying to do. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 27/10/2025 20:44:19 2641925 Link