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Replying To tiobraid: "Slightly hijacking this thread but if anyone didn't see that minor game it's worth looking at. Some unreal scores and forward play. Tipp came out on top scoring a very late 1-2 to win by 4 when Galway looked like they might have it. Some great performances all over the pitch. Delaney and McCormack excellent close to goal. Not many lads looked under 17. Great weekend for minor hurling." Ya great match. Delighted to see two of the lesser countys contest the final now.
Couldn't help myself Tiobraid :)
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1126 - 19/06/2022 18:38:26
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Replying To festinog: "Wouldn't buy that at all. Clare were chasing that game for 60 minutes, and but for the injuries and substitutions in the last 10 minutes it could have been a very different result. That was a game of fine margins and I'd say if those teams played each other it would be a coin toss every time." Clare have beaten Wexford 4 times now in 5 years.
Traditionally, i can only think of one championship match in my time that we lost to Wexford and that was after extra time with Clare down to 13 in normal time. Clare are to Wexford like Cork are (maybe were) to Clare. We have a bit of a jinx over them.
Clare would undeniably beat Wexford 8/10 times I think if we played each week for the next ten weeks. It certainly would not be a coin toss
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Replying To Canuck: "All the teams gave it their best and we all know what it is like to be disappointed but at the end of the day there is always only one winner. Personally myself I think the gap between Limerick and the rest has widened. Clare got with in three points of them but in the local derby tie. In the heat of an All-Ireland in Croke Park ? We got within three points of them also but I doubt if either is the true width of the gulf.
Limerick are and will be the team of this decade and may be this century. All great teams give way to someone else but when I look at their age profile they can hold court for some time with a few tweaks here and there. No issue with it either because too long the game was dominated by three counties. Of course I want us to break through also but a lot of things need to happen and line up for that to occur." I agree with you to an extent in thy I think Limerick have gone further ahead of the chasing pack with the exception of my own county.
After two draws in 70 minutes against Clare so far you cannot say that Clare this year have not closed the gap on Limerick.
I did not see anything out of Galway that would challenge Limerick in my opinion and with the bookies giving a margin of 5, I think Limerick minus 5 is free money to be honest.
Clare v KK is interesting as it is 16 years since the teams last met and therefore there is a lack of familiarity. I think we are favorites for this game though if and only if we can get back to our Munster championship form. I think we will. I think the game yesterday would have gotten rid of the Munster final feelings and we can move forward fresh. KK lost to Wexford and Galway (in the RR). Galway, although they won were poor yesteday I thought and we beat Wexford having only hurled for 15 minutes. Form wise I think we will win.
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 19/06/2022 19:02:50
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Replying To CTGAA10: "Down to the last four..I think Clare are going to be very hard to beat now and will love playing killkenny..yesterday was a game where the munster final defeat was got out of the system completely..if they get a bit more from duggan from general play then it could make a huge difference..they also have a bench who are giving valuable scores..killkenny will be hard to beat but I'd say Clare by 4/5 points..the second game gives Galway a complete free shot at limerick..they havnt really put a full performance together but pressure might be off now and they might Just go for it..mcinerney would be a huge loss for a physical encounter if injury is serious..they need to get more support for whelan.he is a great player to watch and when he's kept close to goal an absolute nightmare for any back..limerick have looked comfortable in most games and even in munster final they got round Clare eventually..hoping to have Cian and peter available,if not at least one,which would boost limerick even further..I think possibly limerick could exploit the lack of speed with some Galway backs..looking forward to a great weekends hurling in first weekend in July.." 2 great semi-finals to look forward to with novel pairings. The weekend as usual is the hurling highlight of the year often better than the final. How will Cody deal with Kelly and how will Clare face up to KK sheer honesty and refusal to ever give up. Limerick v Galway is the rivalry we could have had for the last 5 years but Galway have flattered to deceive, all we have are a few tasty league games recently and going by those neither team like each other. Whoever wins we are going to have some great stories for the final Lk v Cl in the ultimate mid West Derby, Lk v Kk in a master v pupil managerial battle, Gal v Cl would be unique and memorable or Kk v Gal in the handshake part 3. Either way 3 great games to finish the inter County hurling year.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 19/06/2022 19:32:02
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Replying To tiobraid: "Slightly hijacking this thread but if anyone didn't see that minor game it's worth looking at. Some unreal scores and forward play. Tipp came out on top scoring a very late 1-2 to win by 4 when Galway looked like they might have it. Some great performances all over the pitch. Delaney and McCormack excellent close to goal. Not many lads looked under 17. Great weekend for minor hurling." It is within your remit to hijack it, the thread title doesn't specify senior.
The minor championship has been great this year, loads of cracking games in both provinces. That said, I do question why Galway aren't in Leinster at minor as well, and just like the u20 make it the winners in the final.
I also think minor should be moved back to 18, these hurlers deserve their place in Croke Park on the biggest day of the year.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1128 - 19/06/2022 19:56:42
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Allow for the fact also that Wexford lost their star forward in Rory O'Connor.
But overall, Clare were full value for the win. They found a gear in the last 15 minutes and Wexford didn't have the bodies off the bench to stem the tide.
Reminded me of that heartbreak v Tipp in 2019. In a position to win, but didn't have the legs or the subs to finish the job.
Best of luck to Clare from here." We had also played last weekend.
WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 19/06/2022 20:01:11
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I agree with you to an extent in thy I think Limerick have gone further ahead of the chasing pack with the exception of my own county.
After two draws in 70 minutes against Clare so far you cannot say that Clare this year have not closed the gap on Limerick.
I did not see anything out of Galway that would challenge Limerick in my opinion and with the bookies giving a margin of 5, I think Limerick minus 5 is free money to be honest.
Clare v KK is interesting as it is 16 years since the teams last met and therefore there is a lack of familiarity. I think we are favorites for this game though if and only if we can get back to our Munster championship form. I think we will. I think the game yesterday would have gotten rid of the Munster final feelings and we can move forward fresh. KK lost to Wexford and Galway (in the RR). Galway, although they won were poor yesteday I thought and we beat Wexford having only hurled for 15 minutes. Form wise I think we will win." Clare should win but kilkenny have plenty of experience of big days in croke park where clare have 2018 v Galway and only a few back to 13. Cody will have been in thurles and will have taken a lot of what wexford did tactically. Mikey butler will man mark kelly and there isn't many in the game as good. Kelly only came good when Reck went off injured and the ankle strain will be an issue. Kilkenny will allow Richie Reid to sit and he has settled better into that distribution role as the year goes on. Kilkenny have a far deeper panel than wexford and the last 15 will be key. Kk will go direct into that clare FB line with Cody TJ and possibly Walter Walsh. Rory hayes season could be over after dessie Hutchinson and Flanagan cleaning him out and his manager pulling him after 10 mins v wexford. Cleary will be a watched man and Paul Flanagan will have to be on it again. Clare will need huge improvements from SoD Malone and Duggan to win this imo. I think kk will bring a huge performance. Cody has been ruthless selection wise and that can have a very positive effect in creating a 20 man panel. The form line is clare but kk have a way of taking to good elements away from your game. It's a fascinating match up.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1126 - 19/06/2022 20:20:26
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Clare have beaten Wexford 4 times now in 5 years.
Traditionally, i can only think of one championship match in my time that we lost to Wexford and that was after extra time with Clare down to 13 in normal time. Clare are to Wexford like Cork are (maybe were) to Clare. We have a bit of a jinx over them.
Clare would undeniably beat Wexford 8/10 times I think if we played each week for the next ten weeks. It certainly would not be a coin toss" I think 8 is a bit optimistic LRH. But you are a year or 2 ahead of us development wise and remember we started from a pretty low base when liam Dunne started our revival. For all the talk and worry up your way we were the only other county that really looked like we could slip away like Offaly did.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 19/06/2022 20:29:13
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Replying To tiobraid: "Slightly hijacking this thread but if anyone didn't see that minor game it's worth looking at. Some unreal scores and forward play. Tipp came out on top scoring a very late 1-2 to win by 4 when Galway looked like they might have it. Some great performances all over the pitch. Delaney and McCormack excellent close to goal. Not many lads looked under 17. Great weekend for minor hurling." Remarked on the Clare forum that yourselves and Galway, along with Limerick, Dublin and KK, seem streets ahead of us and Clare for underage S and C. I know that means Jack in terms of making the step up to Senior as any Galway fan will tell you but it surely has to be a good start though.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 19/06/2022 20:33:03
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I agree with you to an extent in thy I think Limerick have gone further ahead of the chasing pack with the exception of my own county.
After two draws in 70 minutes against Clare so far you cannot say that Clare this year have not closed the gap on Limerick.
I did not see anything out of Galway that would challenge Limerick in my opinion and with the bookies giving a margin of 5, I think Limerick minus 5 is free money to be honest.
Clare v KK is interesting as it is 16 years since the teams last met and therefore there is a lack of familiarity. I think we are favorites for this game though if and only if we can get back to our Munster championship form. I think we will. I think the game yesterday would have gotten rid of the Munster final feelings and we can move forward fresh. KK lost to Wexford and Galway (in the RR). Galway, although they won were poor yesteday I thought and we beat Wexford having only hurled for 15 minutes. Form wise I think we will win." Kilkenny lost to a better team than you beat yesterday though. Damien Reck was fully fit up til the final whistle as was ROC. Chin also. Dunbar was 1st sub on. Dwyer wasn't nursing the back injury he picked up against Kerry. Tbh if the game against Kilkenny went the way yesterday went injury wise we might not, probably wouldn't even, have won it.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 19/06/2022 20:36:43
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "It is within your remit to hijack it, the thread title doesn't specify senior.
The minor championship has been great this year, loads of cracking games in both provinces. That said, I do question why Galway aren't in Leinster at minor as well, and just like the u20 make it the winners in the final.
I also think minor should be moved back to 18, these hurlers deserve their place in Croke Park on the biggest day of the year." I agree. And u20 back to u21.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 19/06/2022 20:37:56
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I agree with you to an extent in thy I think Limerick have gone further ahead of the chasing pack with the exception of my own county.
After two draws in 70 minutes against Clare so far you cannot say that Clare this year have not closed the gap on Limerick.
I did not see anything out of Galway that would challenge Limerick in my opinion and with the bookies giving a margin of 5, I think Limerick minus 5 is free money to be honest.
Clare v KK is interesting as it is 16 years since the teams last met and therefore there is a lack of familiarity. I think we are favorites for this game though if and only if we can get back to our Munster championship form. I think we will. I think the game yesterday would have gotten rid of the Munster final feelings and we can move forward fresh. KK lost to Wexford and Galway (in the RR). Galway, although they won were poor yesteday I thought and we beat Wexford having only hurled for 15 minutes. Form wise I think we will win." No disagreement here. Clare are the nearest to them but there are a few factors. The cats make a habit of winning when they should not. They would claim they win because they are the better team. Hard to argue with them. Honestly no disrespect to them but racking up Leinster titles and getting to semi finals with that team ? The rest of Leinster should be shaking their heads. Wexford good enough to beat them but who won the tittle and are in the semi. That is problem one for ye. The second if he get over them and I hope ye do and the backs play the same, ye''ll be picking the ball 6 times out of the back of the net not 3 times. No begrudging either of ye and I am not writing Galway either just expressing an opinion.
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Clare certainly are the form team at this point. The momentum of winning yesterday and the role of all the squad shows they have a great chance. However if kk get 3 goals Clare won't win as there's little chance of keeping them to under 19 points.
Clare certainly have the warriors to go to the trenches v kk but trying to open them up with pace like cork did last year might be a clever option. You'd have to wonder How many more seasons are in tj walter et al. I think they'll produce a serious performance
Limerick are a conundrum. Backs playing well…midfield and forwards are playing in fits and starts. They've all individually had good games but rarely together. Lynchs loss has been huge. No doubting the workrate and the hunger but we haven't hit the hurling heights so far this year. Certainly teams are learning how to play us. Galway match up well physically and they'll have no fear of us. Just need to get over the line. I fear a massive Galway performance. They always have a big one every season.
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Replying To Viking66: "I think 8 is a bit optimistic LRH. But you are a year or 2 ahead of us development wise and remember we started from a pretty low base when liam Dunne started our revival. For all the talk and worry up your way we were the only other county that really looked like we could slip away like Offaly did." In fairness Viking, irrespective of where we both are in our developments we do have a bit of a jinx over ye. I was reading yesterday that we have met 11 times with the first in 2002, Clare have won 9, 1 draw and 1 win for Wexford.
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Replying To daveboy: "Ya great match. Delighted to see two of the lesser countys contest the final now.
Couldn't help myself Tiobraid :)" Haha…won't fall out over that one. We don't get to play offaly much and I'm expecting some atmosphere at this game. Some great games and coverage over the last couple of months. Great to have a bit of a feel good factor back in Tipp!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/06/2022 08:16:58
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I agree with you to an extent in thy I think Limerick have gone further ahead of the chasing pack with the exception of my own county.
After two draws in 70 minutes against Clare so far you cannot say that Clare this year have not closed the gap on Limerick.
I did not see anything out of Galway that would challenge Limerick in my opinion and with the bookies giving a margin of 5, I think Limerick minus 5 is free money to be honest.
Clare v KK is interesting as it is 16 years since the teams last met and therefore there is a lack of familiarity. I think we are favorites for this game though if and only if we can get back to our Munster championship form. I think we will. I think the game yesterday would have gotten rid of the Munster final feelings and we can move forward fresh. KK lost to Wexford and Galway (in the RR). Galway, although they won were poor yesteday I thought and we beat Wexford having only hurled for 15 minutes. Form wise I think we will win." Yes Clare have the AI in the bag LRH and they must now be considered the greatest team of all time!
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Replying To tommy k: "Yes Clare have the AI in the bag LRH and they must now be considered the greatest team of all time!" I wouldnt go that far Tommy but glad to hear you think so.
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 20/06/2022 10:26:27
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Replying To tiobraid: "Haha…won't fall out over that one. We don't get to play offaly much and I'm expecting some atmosphere at this game. Some great games and coverage over the last couple of months. Great to have a bit of a feel good factor back in Tipp!" Beware of that Offaly team Tiobraid. I'm sure your lads will have played challenge games etc against them since u13. They are very good.
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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "In fairness Viking, irrespective of where we both are in our developments we do have a bit of a jinx over ye. I was reading yesterday that we have met 11 times with the first in 2002, Clare have won 9, 1 draw and 1 win for Wexford." Yep. Sure do. Maybe you sent Biddy down here???!!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11818 - 20/06/2022 10:44:41
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Replying To Viking66: "Yep. Sure do. Maybe you sent Biddy down here???!!!!" Please keep her!!! 81 years of pain.
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 20/06/2022 10:49:52
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