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Replying To martinjoe:  "Donegal are 1/3 red hot favs to beat Mayo.

Donegal are 6/1 3rd favs to win SAM

Mayo are 25/1 to win SAM.

Tyrone were 4/11 favs to beat Mayo last Saturday, so the bookies get it wrong sometimes, but very seldom."
Odds mean nothing this year, most fans and pundits would find this game hard to call, particularly with the new rules and the unpredictable nature of games now.

IMO Armagh, Kerry and Galway are the leading challengers for the All Ireland, followed in no particular order by Donegal, Dublin, Mayo and Tyrone, with Monaghan and Derry potentially moving into that bracket. It remains to be seen whether Donegal can make the jump to the next level.

If we can get Shaun Patton, Jason McGee and Caolan McGonigle back and fit and keep other key players fit, then we definitely will have a chance, but I'm not sure we done anything to justify being 3rd favourites, well apart from winning Ulster..

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1365 - 03/06/2025 13:07:40    2614549

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Replying To Cbar:  "No disrespect meant to Cavan but I cannot see them getting a result against Tyrone.

If we assume that Tyrone beat Cavan, Donegal cannot top the table, regardless of the result of the final game - they will either finish second or third and are facing 3 games in 3 weeks, 2 of which will be knock-out.

The only thing that hangs on the Mayo game would be home advantage for a prelim- Q final.

Will this impact on Donegals approach for the game??

I could see a scenario whereby Tyrone are winning comfortably at HT and Jim turns his eye to the following week.

Thoughts - am I clutching at straws here?"
Tyrone will beat Cavan.
Donegal will qualify for the prelim q final its just where will they play (Ballybofey, Navan, Parc Esler or Croke Park)

Mayo need a draw for third or win for 2nd place and defeat means out.

The other teams in the prelim q finals will be Louth (3) & Down (2), Meath (2) and Cork (3), Galway (3) and Dublin (2).

The question for Donegal is how much do they want a home draw against (Louth, Cork or Galway) compared to an away match v (Down, Meath or Dublin).

Both teams would take a draw, no injuries or suspensions going into the following two weeks.

If Donegal get through the prelim q finals - they cant face Armagh or Tyrone so will leaves them in an All Ireland qfinal v either Monaghan or Kerry.

It will be a big challenge to beat Mayo, Galway/Dublin and Kerry to get to a semi.
Might not be that bad in the long run to ease up for three weeks now and prep for the knock out stages.

Mayo have to produce a big performance v Donegal, then win a prelim qfinal (Louth or Cork) before facing Armagh, Kerry or Monaghan.

Only Galway have ever won a qfinal after going through the prelims.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 03/06/2025 15:10:25    2614591

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It seems mayo GAA made Connacht rugby pay upfront because they didn't think it would sell out. Which means mayo GAA lost out because gates receipts were better value as it sold out.

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 185 - 03/06/2025 15:17:55    2614594

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Tyrone will beat Cavan.
Donegal will qualify for the prelim q final its just where will they play (Ballybofey, Navan, Parc Esler or Croke Park)

Mayo need a draw for third or win for 2nd place and defeat means out.

The other teams in the prelim q finals will be Louth (3) & Down (2), Meath (2) and Cork (3), Galway (3) and Dublin (2).

The question for Donegal is how much do they want a home draw against (Louth, Cork or Galway) compared to an away match v (Down, Meath or Dublin).

Both teams would take a draw, no injuries or suspensions going into the following two weeks.

If Donegal get through the prelim q finals - they cant face Armagh or Tyrone so will leaves them in an All Ireland qfinal v either Monaghan or Kerry.

It will be a big challenge to beat Mayo, Galway/Dublin and Kerry to get to a semi.
Might not be that bad in the long run to ease up for three weeks now and prep for the knock out stages.

Mayo have to produce a big performance v Donegal, then win a prelim qfinal (Louth or Cork) before facing Armagh, Kerry or Monaghan.

Only Galway have ever won a qfinal after going through the prelims."
A Mayo win likely puts them into the qfinal on the Tyrone head to head, as Tyrone likely will win v Cavan.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4194 - 03/06/2025 15:29:27    2614602

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Replying To Cbar:  "No disrespect meant to Cavan but I cannot see them getting a result against Tyrone.

If we assume that Tyrone beat Cavan, Donegal cannot top the table, regardless of the result of the final game - they will either finish second or third and are facing 3 games in 3 weeks, 2 of which will be knock-out.

The only thing that hangs on the Mayo game would be home advantage for a prelim- Q final.

Will this impact on Donegals approach for the game??

I could see a scenario whereby Tyrone are winning comfortably at HT and Jim turns his eye to the following week.

Thoughts - am I clutching at straws here?"
I think yes, the straws are half burnt in a fire and now are soaking wet. Jim Mc. will have Donegal going all out and if Mayo don't match them it will be over at half time. Play like we did against Tyrone the its anyone's game like against Cavan then its time for the golf clubs and a long summer.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 542 - 03/06/2025 15:30:23    2614603

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Tyrone will beat Cavan.
Donegal will qualify for the prelim q final its just where will they play (Ballybofey, Navan, Parc Esler or Croke Park)

Mayo need a draw for third or win for 2nd place and defeat means out.

The other teams in the prelim q finals will be Louth (3) & Down (2), Meath (2) and Cork (3), Galway (3) and Dublin (2).

The question for Donegal is how much do they want a home draw against (Louth, Cork or Galway) compared to an away match v (Down, Meath or Dublin).

Both teams would take a draw, no injuries or suspensions going into the following two weeks.

If Donegal get through the prelim q finals - they cant face Armagh or Tyrone so will leaves them in an All Ireland qfinal v either Monaghan or Kerry.

It will be a big challenge to beat Mayo, Galway/Dublin and Kerry to get to a semi.
Might not be that bad in the long run to ease up for three weeks now and prep for the knock out stages.

Mayo have to produce a big performance v Donegal, then win a prelim qfinal (Louth or Cork) before facing Armagh, Kerry or Monaghan.

Only Galway have ever won a qfinal after going through the prelims."
A Mayo win gets us direct to the quarter finals by virtue of our win over Tyrone. We would both be on 4 points with Donegal finishing third and Cavan out.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 542 - 03/06/2025 15:33:20    2614607

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Tyrone will beat Cavan.
Donegal will qualify for the prelim q final its just where will they play (Ballybofey, Navan, Parc Esler or Croke Park)

Mayo need a draw for third or win for 2nd place and defeat means out.

The other teams in the prelim q finals will be Louth (3) & Down (2), Meath (2) and Cork (3), Galway (3) and Dublin (2).

The question for Donegal is how much do they want a home draw against (Louth, Cork or Galway) compared to an away match v (Down, Meath or Dublin).

Both teams would take a draw, no injuries or suspensions going into the following two weeks.

If Donegal get through the prelim q finals - they cant face Armagh or Tyrone so will leaves them in an All Ireland qfinal v either Monaghan or Kerry.

It will be a big challenge to beat Mayo, Galway/Dublin and Kerry to get to a semi.
Might not be that bad in the long run to ease up for three weeks now and prep for the knock out stages.

Mayo have to produce a big performance v Donegal, then win a prelim qfinal (Louth or Cork) before facing Armagh, Kerry or Monaghan.

Only Galway have ever won a qfinal after going through the prelims."
That last point won't be as much of a factor this year, because two of the groups are loaded, and the other two are weak and very very weak 'respectively'. It's a group scenario that should see stronger 3rd place teams away to weaker 2nd placed teams in at least one, and perhaps even two , of the preliminary qfinals.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4194 - 03/06/2025 15:52:03    2614612

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Replying To cluichethar:  "I think yes, the straws are half burnt in a fire and now are soaking wet. Jim Mc. will have Donegal going all out and if Mayo don't match them it will be over at half time. Play like we did against Tyrone the its anyone's game like against Cavan then its time for the golf clubs and a long summer."
I wouldn't be so sure.

If Tyrone are well ahead of Cavan with 40-50 minutes gone Donegal are guaranteed to be in the preliminary qfs. It would only be natural then for McGuiness to sub off Murphy and one or two other frontline players in preparation for the following two weekends.

However we can only worry about our own performance. I've always maintained we have the players. Show up like we did vs Tyrone and most of the Connacht final and we won't be too far away.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 463 - 03/06/2025 15:52:21    2614613

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Game confirmed for the Hyde - Sunday 15th at 4pm

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1213 - 03/06/2025 15:59:23    2614617

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Game confirmed for the Hyde - Sunday 15th at 4pm"
Hyde Park is a bit of a surprise, I thought Carrick was a closer option

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 542 - 03/06/2025 16:31:16    2614633

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Replying To MayoDan:  "I wouldn't be so sure.

If Tyrone are well ahead of Cavan with 40-50 minutes gone Donegal are guaranteed to be in the preliminary qfs. It would only be natural then for McGuiness to sub off Murphy and one or two other frontline players in preparation for the following two weekends.

However we can only worry about our own performance. I've always maintained we have the players. Show up like we did vs Tyrone and most of the Connacht final and we won't be too far away."
I tend to agree - if at HT Tyrone are well ahead that will feed through to the Donegal players and management. Donegal would be naive to risk players knowing they are out again for 2 knock out games the next 2 weeks in a row.

Mayo don't have any such concerns - its win or bust.

It's not a bad position for Mayo to be in and in typical Mayo fashion I really wouldn't be surprised if we pulled this out of the fire to qualify for a QF.

Of course there is 50/50 a chance that we will play worse than we did against Cavan and lose by 20+ points.

The never ending roller coaster of being a Mayo fan!

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 362 - 03/06/2025 16:54:35    2614639

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Hyde Park is a bit of a surprise, I thought Carrick was a closer option"
GAA will be thinking full house and more money - you get more into the Hyde

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 03/06/2025 17:10:04    2614643

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Not sure capacity in Carrick would have been suitable.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11621 - 03/06/2025 22:31:45    2614687

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Replying To Cbar:  "I tend to agree - if at HT Tyrone are well ahead that will feed through to the Donegal players and management. Donegal would be naive to risk players knowing they are out again for 2 knock out games the next 2 weeks in a row.

Mayo don't have any such concerns - its win or bust.

It's not a bad position for Mayo to be in and in typical Mayo fashion I really wouldn't be surprised if we pulled this out of the fire to qualify for a QF.

Of course there is 50/50 a chance that we will play worse than we did against Cavan and lose by 20+ points.

The never ending roller coaster of being a Mayo fan!"
Fair amount of praise going around for the team performance we put in up in Omagh and while I agree I'm holding fire on praise until we see what happens in the Donegal game. Fact is can they now back up that performance (which was not outstanding) with another and beat Donegal? If we don't and get knocked out that Tyrone win will have meant absolutely nothing.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11621 - 04/06/2025 11:44:09    2614779

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Fair amount of praise going around for the team performance we put in up in Omagh and while I agree I'm holding fire on praise until we see what happens in the Donegal game. Fact is can they now back up that performance (which was not outstanding) with another and beat Donegal? If we don't and get knocked out that Tyrone win will have meant absolutely nothing."
Forwards still only scored 1-6 from play.
Any praise was for effort - not for quality

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 04/06/2025 16:40:55    2614909

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Forwards still only scored 1-6 from play.
Any praise was for effort - not for quality"
And more quality will be needed to have any chance v Donegal. The bookies odds certainly reflect that. We are big underdogs.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11621 - 04/06/2025 17:36:46    2614921

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