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I'd be in the more hopeful camp for Monaghan to do well this year. After the Derry beating last year they could have folded. Instead they adjusted and were playing at the level needed at the business end of the season where other more fancied teams had fallen by the way side. You have to take advantage of the opportunities as they present themselves. I'd be expecting to see the same attitude in 2 weeks and I'd be very surprised to see Monaghan as open as they seemed to be in the league, though I suppose it's very much injury dependent. Cavan will definitely pressure the Monaghan kickout hoping they'll go long and make it a real battle. Hughes, Mohan, Lavelle, Wilson, McCarville, and hopefully Leonard will probably all see some game time around the middle. This is where the game will be won or lost as usual. PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 158 - 26/03/2024 16:04:30 2533923 Link
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Sonny. I was going to Monaghan games long before the accident that ended up as you. All you proved in that last attempt of wit is to show the lack of knowledge of the club coaches that you speak to. Glad to see that you are at least rowing back on your "job for Darren" plan following on your monkey says what monkey hears diatribe. Until and if Rory returns the man who should be our keeper is Darren alright, Darren McDonnell. You are supposedly a long time follower, so you would recall the level that Rory was at in 2013/14. In your simple mind every goal conceded by Monaghan is the keeper's fault. Hopefully with your long distance trips to chat with your experienced players and club coach friends, that they will enlighten you that a county can't lose half of their starting team and in a few months operate at the same level as before. Like most sunshine supporters your knowledge of how the game works is limited. Onwards and upwards with Vinny and his rebuild." At no point did I blame the Keeper alone for every goal conceded or as the sole reason for our overall difficulty in Division 1, your seeing things that aren't there. By the way I didn't start the conversation about outfield players going in goal, I added my opinion as to who on the panel I think would be best suited to it, which unless I missed something is the whole point of a message board. Why don't you have a go at the posters who opened the topic if you find it so offensive? I will leave you at it lad, rather than argue any more with you. I have no clue who you are or what you know about football, the same way you don't have a clue who I am or what/who I know. The one thing I do know is I have been a "sunshine" supporter of the Monaghan football team for as far back as I can remember, through a lot more thin than thick and if things go thin again I will turn up and support them as often as l can, that's good enough for me, I won't worry about anyone else. TheHunter (Monaghan) - Posts: 14 - 26/03/2024 16:57:36 2533940 Link
Replying To Jimsam12: "Was Darren Hughes the last keeper to play a competitive game since Beggan or who was it out of a matter of interest. If memory serves me right I think a small lad came on against us in the league a few years ago but could possibly have been McKenna cup" Not sure about league, but Mark Keogh would have been the keeper during the Eamon McEnaney era 2011/2012 so I reckon he would have been the last man to play a championship game before Beggan TheHunter (Monaghan) - Posts: 14 - 26/03/2024 17:00:50 2533941 Link
Anyone venture a starting 15 for the Cavan game at this point? Assuming everyone available, and alternately if O'Hanlon Ward Leonard and McAnespie are missing Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1058 - 26/03/2024 18:51:30 2533967 Link
Replying To TheHunter: "Not sure about league, but Mark Keogh would have been the keeper during the Eamon McEnaney era 2011/2012 so I reckon he would have been the last man to play a championship game before Beggan" Keogh and Beggan rotated the Jersey in the 2013 league. With Keogh's last appearance being against Wicklow in round 5 of the league that year. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 26/03/2024 18:55:53 2533970 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "Keogh and Beggan rotated the Jersey in the 2013 league. With Keogh's last appearance being against Wicklow in round 5 of the league that year." David Kirk in 2020 came on for Beggan after a black card in the league. Cian Mohan played McKenna cup too in 2016 There's a quiz question and answer! veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 390 - 26/03/2024 19:32:13 2533977 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "David Kirk in 2020 came on for Beggan after a black card in the league. Cian Mohan played McKenna cup too in 2016 There's a quiz question and answer!" Are these two still around the panel or even worth a shot? Jimsam12 (Donegal) - Posts: 12 - 26/03/2024 23:22:21 2534025 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "David Kirk in 2020 came on for Beggan after a black card in the league. Cian Mohan played McKenna cup too in 2016 There's a quiz question and answer!" My god is that what we had as our second best that year? We have it good now that was a tough year Bantysbabes123 (Monaghan) - Posts: 21 - 27/03/2024 07:02:33 2534036 Link
Replying To Bantysbabes123: "My god is that what we had as our second best that year? We have it good now that was a tough year" Conor Forde played McKenna cup final in 2020 too… veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 390 - 27/03/2024 08:06:15 2534039 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "David Kirk in 2020 came on for Beggan after a black card in the league. Cian Mohan played McKenna cup too in 2016 There's a quiz question and answer!" David Kirk is correct. I remember this article from that time: https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-30987268.html Its interesting for these lines: 'When David Kirk came on for Monaghan against Donegal in Round 5 of the Allianz League, he became just the 23rd player to feature for the Farney in the campaign. Andrew Woods and Colin Walshe have only three substitute appearances between them also, meaning boss 'Banty' McEnaney has effectively worked off an ultra-slim core of just 20 players so far. It's the same story year in, year out with Monaghan, a small county of around 60,000, who similarly used the least number of players in the 2016, 2017 and 2019 Division 1 campaigns.' MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 112 - 27/03/2024 08:36:13 2534043 Link
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "Anyone venture a starting 15 for the Cavan game at this point? Assuming everyone available, and alternately if O'Hanlon Ward Leonard and McAnespie are missing" As it stands i believe Mc anespie, Ward, Leonard will be out. Also if O Hanlon isn't fully fit, he might not start with an eye o the bigger picture. Also its a big call to start Hamill too if he is coming back from injury, all depends how he is going in training etc. There is one spot on the half forward line everyone is fighting for, whoever is fittest will get it. The team I think Vinny will go with is Mc Donnell Wylie Lavelle O toole Karl Duffy Mc Carthy Mohan Darren Mc Nulty Bannigan O Hanlon/Hamill/Ward/Woods/Mc anespie Mc Manus/Jones Jack Irwin monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 27/03/2024 09:11:14 2534048 Link
Replying To MrPBoylan: "David Kirk is correct. I remember this article from that time: https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-30987268.html Its interesting for these lines: 'When David Kirk came on for Monaghan against Donegal in Round 5 of the Allianz League, he became just the 23rd player to feature for the Farney in the campaign. Andrew Woods and Colin Walshe have only three substitute appearances between them also, meaning boss 'Banty' McEnaney has effectively worked off an ultra-slim core of just 20 players so far. It's the same story year in, year out with Monaghan, a small county of around 60,000, who similarly used the least number of players in the 2016, 2017 and 2019 Division 1 campaigns.'" In fairness Banty used a lot of new players .. kirk, woods, philly donellly, pauric Keenan, Keith mceneaney, Shane woods, mcbennett, o toole, mulligan , Fergal Hanratty , Shane hanratty, Irwin , Gallagher … Pretty sure all them came into the team in banty time veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 390 - 27/03/2024 09:41:09 2534055 Link
Replying To TheHunter: "I missed the game yesterday and as RTE decided we were not even worthy of a short highlights package can't make any comment on it, but talking to a few who were at it, the general consensus is there needs to be a change in Keeper. On the topic of outfield players stepping into goal, in Darren Hughes we have a ready made keeper. I believe he played keeper as a Minor and he definitely played in goals during the run to the 2010 Ulster final (not sure if he played the final) so he has the fundamentals. He definitely knows how to keep a defence organised and he would of course be comfortable in open play and general distribution. Its a bit late in the day to start chopping and changing before the Cavan match, but should there be a crash and burn defensively during that game then there could be worse ideas to work on before the All Ireland series." I thank the lord every day that Hoganstand users do not manage our county senior team. A 'ready made keeper' gave me a good chuckle. Darren Hughes played as a keeper when all he had to do for his kickouts was to boot the ball out as far as possible. Can you imagine the scenes if Darren Hughes was being asked to pick out men in tight spaces against a press? This is no slight on the man, because how on earth could he be expected to fulfill such a role. If we had him in goal, the only option would be to boot it out the middle… whilst we might genuinely have the weakest midfield options in Ulster, so I can't imagine that working too well. Hell of a plan. HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 27/03/2024 14:19:12 2534094 Link
Replying To HB245: "I thank the lord every day that Hoganstand users do not manage our county senior team. A 'ready made keeper' gave me a good chuckle. Darren Hughes played as a keeper when all he had to do for his kickouts was to boot the ball out as far as possible. Can you imagine the scenes if Darren Hughes was being asked to pick out men in tight spaces against a press? This is no slight on the man, because how on earth could he be expected to fulfill such a role. If we had him in goal, the only option would be to boot it out the middle… whilst we might genuinely have the weakest midfield options in Ulster, so I can't imagine that working too well. Hell of a plan." Ha ha, that's fair enough assessment. As ideas go it doesn't really stand up to much scrutiny so it's probably best filed under Monday morning BS talk. You see it is possible to take down an idea without getting personal or aggressive in tone with other posters no matter how cracked the idea. I generally keep my mouth shut on tactics n formations in the modern game as its practically a different sport to the one I played, way back when, which is probably the wisest course of action. That's why I like popping on here and chatting to lads who are playing the game now as it opens the eyes as to how much its changed. TheHunter (Monaghan) - Posts: 14 - 27/03/2024 17:27:58 2534146 Link
Replying To HB245: "I thank the lord every day that Hoganstand users do not manage our county senior team. A 'ready made keeper' gave me a good chuckle. Darren Hughes played as a keeper when all he had to do for his kickouts was to boot the ball out as far as possible. Can you imagine the scenes if Darren Hughes was being asked to pick out men in tight spaces against a press? This is no slight on the man, because how on earth could he be expected to fulfill such a role. If we had him in goal, the only option would be to boot it out the middle… whilst we might genuinely have the weakest midfield options in Ulster, so I can't imagine that working too well. Hell of a plan." I think the men suggesting he do goal would be men who don't believe in this short kick out stufff .. they come form an era where ball was booted out long and far and they thought it was great football veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 390 - 27/03/2024 18:29:04 2534157 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "David Kirk in 2020 came on for Beggan after a black card in the league. Cian Mohan played McKenna cup too in 2016 There's a quiz question and answer!" Jamie smith of rockcorry played mc kenna cup in 2016 aswel If I remember correctly McGuirk1985@ (Monaghan) - Posts: 71 - 27/03/2024 18:36:45 2534160 Link
anything to be said for bringing colin walshe and drew wylie back in? lol MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 180 - 28/03/2024 10:53:45 2534259 Link
Replying To MalsBalls: "anything to be said for bringing colin walshe and drew wylie back in? lol" Drew would be a good goalkeeper. he would at least be safe under a high ball!! Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 801 - 28/03/2024 12:06:08 2534275 Link
2 from 2 for the U20's conjack76 (Monaghan) - Posts: 84 - 28/03/2024 12:22:59 2534283 Link
Replying To conjack76: "2 from 2 for the U20's" A big win for the U20s against a Down side heavily backed by the bookies after a draw vs Tyrone! monaghan12 (Monaghan) - Posts: 11 - 28/03/2024 13:16:33 2534291 Link