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Unfortunately this kind of abuse and over the top criticism of officials and indeed managers and players is rife around the county, and not just at adult level, I'm even seeing it at under 13 games, and this tension on the line then feeds into the young players on the field and ruins them. Team officials and spectators need to cop on and watch their behaviour, referees should not have to be engaging with coaches and parents at underage level as to their behaviour on the line. I will counter slightly by saying that there are some referees who probably fuel this a little with their own inconsistency of performance and don't do themselves any favours with their own manner, however this is no excuse and there are ways of communicating a message that don't involve abusing people. CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 270 - 01/09/2022 10:20:05 2439278 Link
Replying To BigSur: "So any whispers around the new senior football manager. Apparently a sub-committee being appointed at tonight's county board meeting but you'd imagine this is just for optics and formalities. No doubt there is lots of work going on behind the scenes as they surely got an advanced warning from Jack. Don't know if Anthony Cunningham is interested but I suspect he is. Could he come in as the boss and have Keane and Dolan as selectors plus say Damien Gavin ?? Do we know if Keane and Dolan are willing to stay on ? Declan Kelly turned down his native county already this year so can't see him getting involved but who knows. Any of those Mayo gangs that missed out available ?" mayo gangs . are we serious . the only management team that should be considered is dessie and john , we do not want a circus mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1802 - 01/09/2022 11:16:37 2439286 Link
Replying To mickcunningham: "mayo gangs . are we serious . the only management team that should be considered is dessie and john , we do not want a circus" Wasn't Maughan in for the job when Jack was appointed? But seriously I think it's important that Dessie and John are retained to continue on the good work that was being done. No need to reinvent the wheel by bringing in a whole new management set up. The good news is Jack will be still involved with development squads. A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 175 - 01/09/2022 11:45:56 2439292 Link
Replying To BigSur: "So any whispers around the new senior football manager. Apparently a sub-committee being appointed at tonight's county board meeting but you'd imagine this is just for optics and formalities. No doubt there is lots of work going on behind the scenes as they surely got an advanced warning from Jack. Don't know if Anthony Cunningham is interested but I suspect he is. Could he come in as the boss and have Keane and Dolan as selectors plus say Damien Gavin ?? Do we know if Keane and Dolan are willing to stay on ? Declan Kelly turned down his native county already this year so can't see him getting involved but who knows. Any of those Mayo gangs that missed out available ?" I wouldn't have Damien Gavin. He has underachieved in the u20 position as far as I am concerned and has been given more than enough time in that role. If Keane could be kept on in a coaching capacity I think it would be massive. I don't know how interested he would be in the manager's job. Even with Garrycastle he seemed to be the main man as regards coaching and let Gary Dolan assume the managers position. I wouldn't be against Anthony Cunningham with Keane/Dessie alongside him. mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 01/09/2022 12:33:21 2439300 Link
Replying To mickcunningham: "mayo gangs . are we serious . the only management team that should be considered is dessie and john , we do not want a circus" they could be a shrewd appointment but are they interested is the question. i dont believe in joint managers. one person has to be the boss i think. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 01/09/2022 16:43:58 2439338 Link
Earlier this week fixtures for the quarter finals of the senior and intermediate football championships were announced. I have heard that that these fixtures have been changed . How are clubs, teams and supporters expected to make plans with this carry on. Apparently one game has been switched from Sunday afternoon in Cusack Park to Saturday evening in Moate. To date the Westmeath gaa website has not even published the revised fixtures. It has taken down the original fixtures. Extremely unfair on everyone involved . Can anyone explain the reason for these changes ? loughree (Westmeath) - Posts: 66 - 01/09/2022 21:25:19 2439368 Link
It looks like the Tubbercclair v Castledaly intermediate q/f was taken out of Cusack Park to facilitate St.Josephs juniors. Westmeath gaa politics at its best. Junior match should be in Moate. loughree (Westmeath) - Posts: 66 - 02/09/2022 17:19:30 2439458 Link
Replying To loughree: "Earlier this week fixtures for the quarter finals of the senior and intermediate football championships were announced. I have heard that that these fixtures have been changed . How are clubs, teams and supporters expected to make plans with this carry on. Apparently one game has been switched from Sunday afternoon in Cusack Park to Saturday evening in Moate. To date the Westmeath gaa website has not even published the revised fixtures. It has taken down the original fixtures. Extremely unfair on everyone involved . Can anyone explain the reason for these changes ?" There have been multiple changes to every round of fixtures. It's a joke. Just make them at the start of the championship and let players, management, clubs, referees, families, supporters and everyone else affected can plan their lives around it. Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 02/09/2022 19:03:05 2439468 Link
There have not been multiple changes to fixtures. At least stick to facts. Joseph's juniors deserve their chance in Cusack Park and Castledaly and Tubberclair have played there in recent weeks. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 02/09/2022 21:15:41 2439482 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "There have not been multiple changes to fixtures. At least stick to facts. Joseph's juniors deserve their chance in Cusack Park and Castledaly and Tubberclair have played there in recent weeks." There has absolutely been multiple changes to fixtures in every round. For example in round 4 Tyrrellspass V Athlone was changed from 6pm in Cusack to 12pm in Tubberclair. In round 1 Milltown V Castledaly was changed from the Saturday to the Sunday to accommodate a Milltown wedding. Round 3 Mullingar Shamrocks Vs. The Downs was changed from Cusack park to Kinnegad. While fixtures secretary is a difficult job, I can't see why the CCC can't just fix every round at the start and that's the bulk of their work done. If Roscommon, Offaly, Cavan, Meath, kildare, etc can all manage to send all their fixtures out at the start of the championship I don't see why Westmeath can't do the same. Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 03/09/2022 10:39:58 2439509 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "There have not been multiple changes to fixtures. At least stick to facts. Joseph's juniors deserve their chance in Cusack Park and Castledaly and Tubberclair have played there in recent weeks." Don't understand this comment, going out of your way to disagree with someone even though you are wrong. westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 03/09/2022 12:00:36 2439515 Link
Can anybody explain why on Monday night mullingar shamrocks are playing garrycastle in a playoff in junior 1? borisdblade (Westmeath) - Posts: 55 - 03/09/2022 13:58:26 2439531 Link
Multiple changes in every round hasn't happened. That's a fact. Poster named one change in each round, hardly multiple changes. A club looks for a change to accommodate a wedding and county board agreed to facilitate club and players, board is damned if they do and damned if they don't. If the fixture organisation is so straightforward get your club to nominate you at next club meeting, Brendan Shaw would be thrilled to get assistance, might reduce his voluntary workload from 25 hours per week to a more manageable 15. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 03/09/2022 14:12:54 2439533 Link
Replying To Iarmhi04: "Can anybody explain why on Monday night mullingar shamrocks are playing garrycastle in a playoff in junior 1?" Level on points. Head to head - they drew. Points difference doesn't work due to Athlone concession. Neither want to play Joseph's I guess! jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 03/09/2022 15:05:19 2439537 Link
Replying To jamsie: "Level on points. Head to head - they drew. Points difference doesn't work due to Athlone concession. Neither want to play Joseph's I guess!" And are Athlone still playing Multy ? I'm guessing so Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 03/09/2022 16:39:44 2439551 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Multiple changes in every round hasn't happened. That's a fact. Poster named one change in each round, hardly multiple changes. A club looks for a change to accommodate a wedding and county board agreed to facilitate club and players, board is damned if they do and damned if they don't. If the fixture organisation is so straightforward get your club to nominate you at next club meeting, Brendan Shaw would be thrilled to get assistance, might reduce his voluntary workload from 25 hours per week to a more manageable 15." In round 1 multy V Loughnavalley was changed from Friday to Thursday. Tang V Athlone was changed from 7:30, back to 6, then back to 7:30. In round 3, Killucan Vs. Athlone was changed from Cusack park to Kinnegad. There just some more examples. Castledaly V Milltown was the supposedly changed for a wedding but turns out Milltown had a player coming home from holidays on the Saturday night. If the CCC made all the fixtures at the start that's the bulk of their work done for the championship and that would cut down on the 25 hours per week. Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 04/09/2022 10:07:28 2439600 Link
Replying To Motte: "No real strong opinion on Caulry team , they have some very good footballers but I dont like unsporting behaviour that is persistent wihin Caulry GAA . How many times has manager been put behind the wire for mouthing at referees . The Caulry players and supporters feed off this . The abuse some of their supporters were shouting at Garrycastle was disgrace . I dont know what it is but they feel that the ref is on their back every match ? Cork is my county but to let you know Im living in Westmeath 35 years and attend matches on a regular basis ." Every club has so called supporters who shout all sorts of abuse at officials from the sideline. Caulry are no different but I wouldnt hold it against the team that are on the field playing the game. Caulry club/parish has grown over the past 25yrs and their teams have benefited hugely. Id say 2/3 of their team have no roots in the club so I dont think there should be a vendetta against this team. Id say a significant majority of those abusive supporters were shouting at refs 20yrs ago when Caulry were junior and have no connection to the current players. They didnt help their cause by appointing current manager and the appeal they made to overturn a 9 point loss based on a team sheet is truly embarrassing. borisdblade (Westmeath) - Posts: 164 - 04/09/2022 12:22:31 2439622 Link
Replying To Jack_Sparrow: "And are Athlone still playing Multy ? I'm guessing so" No consequences whatsoever for Athlone, despite not bothering to travel to Mullingar to fulfil their final Junior championship fixture in Section A against Shamrocks. They preserve their 4th place position and its now Garrycastle and Shamrocks that have to go and play each other again, in a game neither side wants, to re-establish 2nd/3rd place. Just doesn't seem right to me. I'll be shocked if the eventual winner of this years Junior doesn't come from Section B, you'd have to fancy Multy. Its Killucan who play a relegation match with Ballinagore, the bottom team in Section B. KooCullen (Westmeath) - Posts: 82 - 04/09/2022 19:08:05 2439659 Link
Replying To KooCullen: "No consequences whatsoever for Athlone, despite not bothering to travel to Mullingar to fulfil their final Junior championship fixture in Section A against Shamrocks. They preserve their 4th place position and its now Garrycastle and Shamrocks that have to go and play each other again, in a game neither side wants, to re-establish 2nd/3rd place. Just doesn't seem right to me. I'll be shocked if the eventual winner of this years Junior doesn't come from Section B, you'd have to fancy Multy. Its Killucan who play a relegation match with Ballinagore, the bottom team in Section B." There's nothing in the rules regarding one walkover so nothing the CCC could do to punish Athlone unfortunately, wonder will they change the rules for next year? Two walkovers is a fine and thrown out of competition and relegated. What will happen if Ballinagore are relegated to Junior 2 and the likes of Caulry, Moate or Rosemount win Junior 2 in relation to groups for next year? Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 04/09/2022 19:18:12 2439661 Link
Replying To KooCullen: "No consequences whatsoever for Athlone, despite not bothering to travel to Mullingar to fulfil their final Junior championship fixture in Section A against Shamrocks. They preserve their 4th place position and its now Garrycastle and Shamrocks that have to go and play each other again, in a game neither side wants, to re-establish 2nd/3rd place. Just doesn't seem right to me. I'll be shocked if the eventual winner of this years Junior doesn't come from Section B, you'd have to fancy Multy. Its Killucan who play a relegation match with Ballinagore, the bottom team in Section B." Seems the walkover prevents scoring difference being used to separate teams for obvious mathematical reasons. But i thought rule 6.21 included an option to remove the results vs the team who gave the walkover (Athlone) and calculate the score difference etc accordingly. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 04/09/2022 20:09:37 2439667 Link