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Replying To jobber:  "So now amatuar players who have played 8 competitive games in 9-10 weeks are not entitled to celebrate a huge achievement so the likes of you can wallow in self pity."
Yes I get that. That's a whole different conversation in that Westmeath had to play 7 days after a national final. That was completely wrong. More injuries were picked up as a result of all the back to back games.

They could have went for a few pints on Saturday night in Dublin and left it at that. But it was far from a few quiet pints were had for a lot of them.…. I'll leave it there!!

Matthew (None) - Posts: 1008 - 10/04/2024 11:49:35    2537091

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Replying To Matthew:  "Yes I get that. That's a whole different conversation in that Westmeath had to play 7 days after a national final. That was completely wrong. More injuries were picked up as a result of all the back to back games.

They could have went for a few pints on Saturday night in Dublin and left it at that. But it was far from a few quiet pints were had for a lot of them.…. I'll leave it there!!"
Thanks for leaving it there Matthew, I don't think I'd be able for any further news reports on amateur athletes going for pints and unwinding in their spare time especially after a long league campaign. Please don't call the guards this time

AmberNBlack (Westmeath) - Posts: 6 - 10/04/2024 13:22:40    2537122

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Players celebrating winning a national title in croke park, absolutely shameful stuff altogether they should all make a public apology

Tailteannchamps (Westmeath) - Posts: 21 - 10/04/2024 14:00:21    2537135

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Celebrations can't have been too excessive, they were training first thing on Sunday morning in The Downs and the weather was dreadful. Presume the players will return to the clubs for a couple of league games before regrouping.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 10/04/2024 14:45:50    2537151

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Replying To philbrown:  "Shud just put a notice up here that no negative feedback or criticism is permitted. Only allowed be positive or you get banned . Like North Korea , your not allowed have an opinion unless its to say everything is rosey and we're all great according to a lot of people . I dont for a second condone going in personally on management or players . They've given us a lot of great days with league and tailteann Cup. But if it becomes a situation where you can't call out a poor performance for what it is then I think we're heading towards a putin esque regime of censorship . Credit has to be given for promotion and the reaction of players in league final in particular following sligo defeat, great resilience and got there just rewards. But losing to wicklow is so disappointing. Leinster championship is not doubt very flawed but I'm sure players and management wud love to have progressed as far as possible and build up momentum . Hopefully the panel can regroup , reset and set the record straight either in tailteann or all ireland series . Chance to clear up injuries and all going well have full fit panel when we take the field again .Tough pill to swallow on Sunday but all is not lost"
You're spot on Phil. Numerous posts of mine removed because I said I didn't think a certain player should start. Lads give their starting 15s all the time but I can say I believe someone shouldn't start. I've also been labelled as abusive for the crime of giving my opinion on a football thread meant for football chat.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 10/04/2024 16:01:14    2537176

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Replying To westmeathman99:  "This point of view drives me mad.. basically saying 'the Leinster championship is pointless cause we have no chance of winning it'. News flash, we have no chance of winning the All-Ireland either so should we just throw that away too?

Of course not. We should go hell for leather at every championship game. The Leinster championship is still hugely important as it would have been a way to keep our faith in our own hands rather than having to rely on others to do us a favour."
Leinster championship = pointless championship

Teams play the same teams every year just to eventually get smashed and embarrassed by Dublin in Croke Park.

The All Ireland was great experience last year played 3 teams we have hardly ever played in championship and gave a great account of ourselves in 3 games. We drew with the 2021 All Ireland Championship.

Players having a drink after the league final is nothing to be worried about. Some amount of brainless people on this forum who have never experienced playing high level sport and the pressure that is involved.

I'm proud of Dessie Dolan as a Westmeath Man and this he's doing a great job as manager. Yes, I would like to see him play more attacking football but let's be honest the players in Westmeath are not good enough to. Jack Cooney played the same style of football don't remember this outrageous when we lost the 1st round against Laois in 2019 under Jack.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 405 - 10/04/2024 17:09:22    2537188

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It was Monday morning in The Downs when they trained and the players had a few drinks after the league win, fully entitled to and it was a late night but considering they didn't leave Croke Park until after 10.00 that's understandable. No one should have an issue with a few celebratory drinks after a league title. They never got a chance during league to overly indulge. Training on Sunday morning after the league final would have been madness.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1520 - 10/04/2024 17:34:10    2537191

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Agree about opinions but at same some called out one player who has been key player for westmeath in my opinion asif he wasn't crucial for county and club but same time it's person right to disagree as long as if it is not personal

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 226 - 10/04/2024 19:27:06    2537204

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Agree about opinions but at same some called out one player who has been key player for westmeath in my opinion asif he wasn't crucial for county and club but same time it's person right to disagree as long as if it is not personal"
And that's 100% fair enough, I have no problem with you or anyone else disagreeing with me… I do it myself on here plenty.

But I did not get personal in my comments and it was the furthest thing from abuse you can imagine. In the same post I spoke of the respect I had for him, and what he has done for Westmeath.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 10/04/2024 20:58:29    2537223

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""" Yes, I would like to see him play more attacking football but let's be honest the players in Westmeath are not good enough to. """
Temple56, I have to call you out on this and ask you to retract your statement above. Lynam was named at midfeild on the Sigerson team of the year 2024, his counter parts in SIgesons where mainly marquee players from top division sides.
We have player of fantastic abilities which was acknowledged by many top football pundits after our league final win against Down.
It is the synergies between players on the pitch combined with good tactics which make a succesfull Team particulaly in attack.
Westmeath has seen highs and low in one week. Great team are built by learning from these lessons.

BarrRst (Westmeath) - Posts: 14 - 10/04/2024 23:15:18    2537263

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Replying To BarrRst:  """" Yes, I would like to see him play more attacking football but let's be honest the players in Westmeath are not good enough to. """
Temple56, I have to call you out on this and ask you to retract your statement above. Lynam was named at midfeild on the Sigerson team of the year 2024, his counter parts in SIgesons where mainly marquee players from top division sides.
We have player of fantastic abilities which was acknowledged by many top football pundits after our league final win against Down.
It is the synergies between players on the pitch combined with good tactics which make a succesfull Team particulaly in attack.
Westmeath has seen highs and low in one week. Great team are built by learning from these lessons."
Lynam a great player and having a great season but if we played a more attacking way of football like kicking the ball more often, Lynam would be one of the lads that would miss out as this isn't his game. We do have players of fantastic abilities but abilities are not as good as other counties. This is the reason Jack Cooney played this way and Dessie was apart of that management team and he has continued Jack's ways.

Stop Ronan O Toole and Ray Connellen and you will stop Westmeath playing football every other player around the middle would struggle to pick out a kick pass over 25 yards with pressure on them

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 405 - 11/04/2024 12:13:53    2537312

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Team i would like to see and play more attacking, most forwards nowadays do there fair share of defending so we dont need defenders playing 10 and 12.

1.Daly
2.Smith
3.Maguire if fit Drumm also do fine here
4.Gonoud
5.Dolan
6. Wallace
7. Dillon
8 .Connellan
9. Lynam
10.Mccartan
11.O'Toole
12. C.Mccormack/Whittaker
13.Loughlin
14. Heslin
15. Forde

For me Andy mccormack, Lynch all too conservative dont look to kick the ball inside and with Heslin, Loughlin and Forde in there they need good quality ball as does every forward, Give license to Dolan and Dillon to Bomb forward. Kieran Martin then for impact and still some decent cover off the bench. Need a bit of freshness.

PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 33 - 11/04/2024 12:52:00    2537323

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Replying To Temple56:  "Lynam a great player and having a great season but if we played a more attacking way of football like kicking the ball more often, Lynam would be one of the lads that would miss out as this isn't his game. We do have players of fantastic abilities but abilities are not as good as other counties. This is the reason Jack Cooney played this way and Dessie was apart of that management team and he has continued Jack's ways.

Stop Ronan O Toole and Ray Connellen and you will stop Westmeath playing football every other player around the middle would struggle to pick out a kick pass over 25 yards with pressure on them"
Temple; If you watched Sigerson, Lynam in Midfeild succesfully played high quality ball into the attacking and scoring forward line of UCD. It was part of the reaoning behind his inclusion as the best Midfield player of the tourmanent and this counters you agruement that our players are not as good as other counties.

Negetive comments such as your serve to undermine the team. Westmeath won their division in the league and are now in Divison 2.
Certainly impovement need to be made in particular to the attacking and tactical game play. We have a very high emphaises on position Football rather than taking strageic risk in playing high quality ball forward which need a high degree of synergy/ understanding between the team players.
I believe some work and adjustment in this area can lead to intresting results hopfull in the Sam Maguire,

BarrRst (Westmeath) - Posts: 14 - 11/04/2024 14:12:18    2537337

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Replying To PowellJohn3:  "Team i would like to see and play more attacking, most forwards nowadays do there fair share of defending so we dont need defenders playing 10 and 12.

1.Daly
2.Smith
3.Maguire if fit Drumm also do fine here
4.Gonoud
5.Dolan
6. Wallace
7. Dillon
8 .Connellan
9. Lynam
10.Mccartan
11.O'Toole
12. C.Mccormack/Whittaker
13.Loughlin
14. Heslin
15. Forde

For me Andy mccormack, Lynch all too conservative dont look to kick the ball inside and with Heslin, Loughlin and Forde in there they need good quality ball as does every forward, Give license to Dolan and Dillon to Bomb forward. Kieran Martin then for impact and still some decent cover off the bench. Need a bit of freshness."
I am not sure if you looked at your team or comments when you said "need a bit of freshness".
Where is the freshness in that particular team.

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 89 - 11/04/2024 15:43:23    2537360

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Replying To BarrRst:  "Temple; If you watched Sigerson, Lynam in Midfeild succesfully played high quality ball into the attacking and scoring forward line of UCD. It was part of the reaoning behind his inclusion as the best Midfield player of the tourmanent and this counters you agruement that our players are not as good as other counties.

Negetive comments such as your serve to undermine the team. Westmeath won their division in the league and are now in Divison 2.
Certainly impovement need to be made in particular to the attacking and tactical game play. We have a very high emphaises on position Football rather than taking strageic risk in playing high quality ball forward which need a high degree of synergy/ understanding between the team players.
I believe some work and adjustment in this area can lead to intresting results hopfull in the Sam Maguire,"
Can we stop this accusing of people of being negative all the time? A fella gives his opinion on the team, how we should play, and who should play and is told he is negative and is undermining the team.

BarrRst I agree with everything else in your post but if you think what Temple said is 'too negative and undermine the team' you're well wide of the mark. Any player worth his salt won't take any notice of what any of us say on here, never mind will it affect his game.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 11/04/2024 17:14:46    2537382

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Replying To Upforthegame23:  "I am not sure if you looked at your team or comments when you said "need a bit of freshness".
Where is the freshness in that particular team."
Again I say still in modern game lynch are needed he is good player

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 226 - 11/04/2024 23:23:37    2537441

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Minor footballers out at the weekend against our neighbours, Meath. Looking at the competition structure, a draw or win will see us through to knockout stages as 3rd placed team in group 2. At this level anything can happen and a result at the weekend could hopefully be the start of a bit of a run. We need it; something to get behind for the next few weeks. Best of luck to all involved.

fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 148 - 12/04/2024 09:31:31    2537464

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Replying To fizzygravy:  "Minor footballers out at the weekend against our neighbours, Meath. Looking at the competition structure, a draw or win will see us through to knockout stages as 3rd placed team in group 2. At this level anything can happen and a result at the weekend could hopefully be the start of a bit of a run. We need it; something to get behind for the next few weeks. Best of luck to all involved."
Any word on a team for minors. Westmeath appeared to be competitive in both previous games until the last 10mins. Hopefully they put in a 60min performance and get a win.

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 89 - 13/04/2024 08:05:38    2537606

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Six championship defeats out of six between senior, 20s and minors in last four weeks, what's wrong with Westmeath football at inter county level? Not intended to personally criticise, what can we do better?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1520 - 13/04/2024 22:14:26    2537705

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Six championship defeats out of six between senior, 20s and minors in last four weeks, what's wrong with Westmeath football at inter county level? Not intended to personally criticise, what can we do better?"
I wonder is the structure there, an U14/15 for example, are they being monitored in the off season, provided with s&C or do they just go back to the clubs and hope they develop there. I feel this may be an issue, we seem to lack the physicality of almost every other county at underage, I can't see it changing until this is addressed and I'm certain the funding won't be allocated to change it. To be fair to the coaches it's very difficult to get top people to coach an underage squad so are we being left with the people who are willing rather than suitable. I would assume U17 management will change hands as the two years are up.

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 142 - 14/04/2024 09:06:09    2537720

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