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One thing about yesterday I cant get my head around is that when David Lynch won the toss why did he choose to play against that gale in the first half.Here was a Westmeath team full of confidence after getting promotion and putting in a superb display against Down in Croke park to win the league title -they were playing against a Wicklow who only won one game all year and were relegated to div.4 so why not play with the wind and if you can put up a good score and make them come out in second half and chase scores where then like the Down game we could counter attack and keep scoreboard ticking over.In any game you should take whatever advantage that helps you and that first half wind was definately a huge advantage.Im sure it wasnt David Lynch who made the call on the spot so whatever genius on the management team who called it should let us know reasoning behind such a stupid decision.Also when asked about it in the interview by Gerry Buckley after the game Dessie Dolan passed the book or blame onto David Lynch by saying"it was Lynchie who was there for the toss up-ask him."And heres the thing as well-the wind can always die down as well after 40 or 50 mins so its gone for second half.!!

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 173 - 08/04/2024 09:58:17    2536470

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Most disappointing Leinster result in many many years, apart from the fatigue argument there's not many excuses available to the lads. Definitely an air of over confidence going into the game reading into what was said on this forum and in the paper but we were entitled to some degree of confidence after a win against a good Down side in Croker. Two goals conceded absolutely criminal, letting the ball bounce in the small square a joke, wouldn't see it from an u-12 side. We have struggled under those high balls before, two goals against Carlow in the Tailtean 2 years ago both high balls too, if the great Garry Connaughton was there he would have taken ball and man, I don't know if there's an underlying problem there with the keeper?
Clutching at straws maybe. You'd have to wonder if we'll lose some lads to travelling now given there's such a big gap between games, particularly if an All Ireland series doesn't transpire. Most deflated Ive felt about the senior side in many years. Fair play to Wicklow and best of luck to them, better team won.

Lakers.for.Sam (Westmeath) - Posts: 79 - 08/04/2024 10:38:11    2536492

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The above story re manager's post match comment about the toss and playing against the wind is one that David Lynch should have words with Dessie over. The manager as good as blamed Lynch when it's his call or should be and he should be taken to task over his response. The way to deal with Wicklow was to hammer home any advantage, deflate them and their supporters, instead we did the exact opposite. Shocking stuff

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1520 - 08/04/2024 11:44:11    2536524

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Also a side note, what has happened to the defending team trying to catch a high ball coming into the square? There was a couple of scores Wicklow got yesterday (aside from the goals) that players opted to punch the ball rather than catch, when under very little pressure. If I'm not mistaken our goal came from the Wicklow midfielder punching a ball instead of catching it despite there being no Westmeath man within 5 yards of him.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 08/04/2024 12:35:46    2536549

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Disappointed result yesterday, the focus now needs to turn to getting our best team back again. Some injuries now have time to heal and get stronger.

My preferred team for the rest of the year would probably be Daly, Scahill/Dolan, Drumm, Maguire, Wallace, McCormack, Lynch, Connellan, Lynam, McCartan, O'Toole, Loughlin, McCartan, Heslin, Forde

westmeath99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 15 - 08/04/2024 13:03:24    2536566

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i will not be commenting any further on westmeath football good bye all

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1813 - 08/04/2024 13:10:19    2536572

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "i will not be commenting any further on westmeath football good bye all"
We might see you over on the hurling thread Mick, hurlers are going well.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 239 - 08/04/2024 13:51:51    2536592

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "i will not be commenting any further on westmeath football good bye all"
Oh no__ please- don't g….

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 272 - 08/04/2024 19:25:31    2536719

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Replying To jobber:  "Some people in this world delude themselves and then lash out when reality strikes."
Fair playjobber. For once it's not the hurlers at the end of an embarrassing result after delusions…

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 272 - 08/04/2024 19:27:34    2536720

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Absolutely ridiculous people commenting on the quality of David lynch. For the last five plus years he is the go to person for every specific job that the team need from man marking to tracking and covering every position on the pitch. Comparing club form and ability is madness, remember Stephen cluxton plays out field for his clubs second team. I am as disappointed as anyone here from yesterday result, I did expect and hope for more, I am sure dessie and his management team would do things very differently NOW with hindsight, but let's not turn on him. That's just football, these are amateur players giving up so much, there will be nobody more disappointed than them. I had said it was a potential banana skin and that's what happened. Team and management need to re-access and push on for the next day. I do fancy louth to beat kildare, but nobody knows where kildare are at the min, I think there will be a championship kick in them but will it be enough. I am disappointed but certainly not defeated

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 89 - 08/04/2024 20:24:48    2536740

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Replying To Bruno@1:  "One thing about yesterday I cant get my head around is that when David Lynch won the toss why did he choose to play against that gale in the first half.Here was a Westmeath team full of confidence after getting promotion and putting in a superb display against Down in Croke park to win the league title -they were playing against a Wicklow who only won one game all year and were relegated to div.4 so why not play with the wind and if you can put up a good score and make them come out in second half and chase scores where then like the Down game we could counter attack and keep scoreboard ticking over.In any game you should take whatever advantage that helps you and that first half wind was definately a huge advantage.Im sure it wasnt David Lynch who made the call on the spot so whatever genius on the management team who called it should let us know reasoning behind such a stupid decision.Also when asked about it in the interview by Gerry Buckley after the game Dessie Dolan passed the book or blame onto David Lynch by saying"it was Lynchie who was there for the toss up-ask him."And heres the thing as well-the wind can always die down as well after 40 or 50 mins so its gone for second half.!!"
Post match interview with Dessie Dolan by Gerry Russell midlands 103 sport(not Gerry Buckley)

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 173 - 09/04/2024 01:25:51    2536775

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "i will not be commenting any further on westmeath football good bye all"
Mick you shouldnt let these immature comments affect you. The age of some of these contributors became obvious to me when we saw the number of comments and the knowledge of individuals of our Minor team and games. They are only kids and their comments reflect that.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 602 - 09/04/2024 07:53:25    2536786

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Replying To Upforthegame23:  "Absolutely ridiculous people commenting on the quality of David lynch. For the last five plus years he is the go to person for every specific job that the team need from man marking to tracking and covering every position on the pitch. Comparing club form and ability is madness, remember Stephen cluxton plays out field for his clubs second team. I am as disappointed as anyone here from yesterday result, I did expect and hope for more, I am sure dessie and his management team would do things very differently NOW with hindsight, but let's not turn on him. That's just football, these are amateur players giving up so much, there will be nobody more disappointed than them. I had said it was a potential banana skin and that's what happened. Team and management need to re-access and push on for the next day. I do fancy louth to beat kildare, but nobody knows where kildare are at the min, I think there will be a championship kick in them but will it be enough. I am disappointed but certainly not defeated"
I don't see anyone commenting on Lynch's quality. Where are you getting that from. The comment was in regard to the "toss" before the game which apparently we won and the decision made. That's hardly a reflection on Lynch's playing quality.

In regard to the decision though, if it was left to Lynch to decide then that is very poor management by Dessie Dolan. It shouldn't be left to him to decide. It should have been discussed and agreed what the team would do if the toss was won.

As Mick said before, we have no god given right to beat any team as we do have the occasional poor performance in us. That just transpired on Sunday and when you couple that with injuries, fatigue and a much hungrier Wicklow team that's what happens. Its not a disaster. We are missing out on a few great battles in Leinster to try and have a day out in Croker and get a hammering there. Tailteann Cup is a more realistic target and i for one would be very happy if we finished the year with Div 3 title and at the very least a Tailteann Cup Final.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 602 - 09/04/2024 08:09:26    2536790

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Replying To Bruno@1:  "Post match interview with Dessie Dolan by Gerry Russell midlands 103 sport(not Gerry Buckley)"
Agree can't be all on pme player.

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 226 - 09/04/2024 08:57:33    2536801

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Replying To Upforthegame23:  "Absolutely ridiculous people commenting on the quality of David lynch. For the last five plus years he is the go to person for every specific job that the team need from man marking to tracking and covering every position on the pitch. Comparing club form and ability is madness, remember Stephen cluxton plays out field for his clubs second team. I am as disappointed as anyone here from yesterday result, I did expect and hope for more, I am sure dessie and his management team would do things very differently NOW with hindsight, but let's not turn on him. That's just football, these are amateur players giving up so much, there will be nobody more disappointed than them. I had said it was a potential banana skin and that's what happened. Team and management need to re-access and push on for the next day. I do fancy louth to beat kildare, but nobody knows where kildare are at the min, I think there will be a championship kick in them but will it be enough. I am disappointed but certainly not defeated"
Agreed its a bit unfair to question his ability very reliable player and good player for westmeath .

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 226 - 09/04/2024 09:00:37    2536802

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The toss decision reflects extremely badly on the team manager, if it was left up to the team captain who is only a stand in captain in Kevin Maguire's absence then the entire management team should consider their positions, it's an absolute basic that teams consider tactics re wind advantage, under 12 sides do this, presuming that the manager's comment after the game was to 'ask Lynchie' was said in an offhand way it shows scant regard for the player, the result on the day and the journalist, the interviewer a la Tommy Callaghan in Kildare with Glen Ryan recently should have challenged the manager on his response.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1520 - 09/04/2024 09:33:18    2536810

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "Fair playjobber. For once it's not the hurlers at the end of an embarrassing result after delusions…"
What embarrassing result? There's a difference in losing to the All Ireland champions Limerick by 6 points to losing to Wicklow in football. Don't be ridiculous and launching an attack on Jobber and the hurlers because your feeling sore this week after that performance on Sunday. I don't even follow the football but if you see the hurlers having a poor performance in the Joe Mc in a few weeks you won't see any of the hurling fraternity bringing up the footballers as an excuse. Foolish comment.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 815 - 09/04/2024 09:55:36    2536816

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Replying To Maroon Heaven:  "If that match had kicked off at 3pm Westmeath would have won. The wind in first half was non existent in the second half.

Westmeath must have been thinking Clare in league again where they scored 2/3 points first half, and kicked on in Second half. A bad day at the office. Good luck to Wicklow. They deserved the win. Hopefully Wicklow turn over Kildare."
It's not just Kildare that need to be beaten. That side of the draw is now:

Wicklow v Kildare
Louth v Wexford

Only Louth reaching the Leinster final keeps Westmeath in Sam Maguire competition. Tbh I'd expect Louth to come through that side but if they get turned over by any of the other three then Westmeath are back to Tailteann.

Or if any of Fermanagh, Down or Antrim reach an Ulster final, although again I don't think that they will.

anon (None) - Posts: 353 - 09/04/2024 10:28:49    2536829

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Well done Westmeath on getting promoted from division 3. Not overly concerned about the weekend result the leinster hasnt been a decent competition in years the provincials are a joke. Ulster the only decent championship. I know getting to a final is great for getting sam maguire status but its not a great system. Loads of gametime and experience given to the next crop of talent like charlie drum, Daniel scahill Matthew Whittaker, senan Baker Dan mccartan etc. Its just a pity for the players they couldn't enjoy the league win with a break. Gaa need to fix the system. I hope no players take notice of some of the comnents here by armchair experts here slating managers and players when theyve given so much to the county. Best of luck Westmeath in whatever championship lies ahead

AmberNBlack (Westmeath) - Posts: 6 - 09/04/2024 10:37:38    2536832

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Replying To AmberNBlack:  "Well done Westmeath on getting promoted from division 3. Not overly concerned about the weekend result the leinster hasnt been a decent competition in years the provincials are a joke. Ulster the only decent championship. I know getting to a final is great for getting sam maguire status but its not a great system. Loads of gametime and experience given to the next crop of talent like charlie drum, Daniel scahill Matthew Whittaker, senan Baker Dan mccartan etc. Its just a pity for the players they couldn't enjoy the league win with a break. Gaa need to fix the system. I hope no players take notice of some of the comnents here by armchair experts here slating managers and players when theyve given so much to the county. Best of luck Westmeath in whatever championship lies ahead"
Finally someone talking sense on this forum

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 405 - 09/04/2024 11:48:11    2536850

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