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Replying To jobber:  "The Intermediate hurling has two semi finals.Ringtown and Castletown are already through and Raharney should make it that leaves the last place between Clonkill,Southern Gaels and possibly Turin?.what happens if all three end up on 6 points?"
its surely an anomaly that if Southern Gaels and Clonkill finish on 8 points Clonkill will go through but if they finish on 6 Southern Gaels qualify.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1118 - 31/08/2022 13:01:12    2439242

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Replying To jobber:  "its surely an anomaly that if Southern Gaels and Clonkill finish on 8 points Clonkill will go through but if they finish on 6 Southern Gaels qualify."
Southern Gaels are effectively out of the championship, they will not beat Castletown and even if they do Clonkill will beat Turin so they will be out on head to head either way

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 190 - 31/08/2022 20:38:22    2439260

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Replying To Leftpeg1:  "Castletown to beat Pollard by 10 points at the weekend"
Yep

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 190 - 31/08/2022 20:39:01    2439261

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "Southern Gaels are effectively out of the championship, they will not beat Castletown and even if they do Clonkill will beat Turin so they will be out on head to head either way"
the competition is skewed by the fact some teams are getting weaker as it goes on.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1867 - 31/08/2022 22:01:49    2439268

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Replying To valley84:  "the competition is skewed by the fact some teams are getting weaker as it goes on."
It is only slightly skewed, because even when they're weakened with losses to the seniors the second strings are still competitive with the likes of Turin, Southern Gaels and Ringtown. There's little alternative to what's there other than a separate competition for second teams, but there's only 15 clubs in the whole of the county… so that would mean 5 teams each at senior, intermediate and junior grades, and we all know that most of the clubs with grandiose delusions of their status would never agree to that

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 190 - 01/09/2022 10:07:21    2439277

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "It is only slightly skewed, because even when they're weakened with losses to the seniors the second strings are still competitive with the likes of Turin, Southern Gaels and Ringtown. There's little alternative to what's there other than a separate competition for second teams, but there's only 15 clubs in the whole of the county… so that would mean 5 teams each at senior, intermediate and junior grades, and we all know that most of the clubs with grandiose delusions of their status would never agree to that"
Ringtown have comfortably bet clonkill and raharney and drew to castletown while almost playing their own second string team. It was a bit ridiculous the start of the season for Southern Gaels to play Clonkill and Raharney in the first 2 games before any SENIOR championship games had been played, while ringtown played Turin in the opening game. Southern Gaels narrowly lost both games by a point and 4 points, with both clonkill and raharney losing between 7-10 players since. To my knowledge there was a rule brought in in recent years that intermediate clubs would not have to play "2nd teams" until at least 1 senior championship game was played, this was evident last year while intermediate teams were seperated for the group stage and the year before where the opening round of each group did not include senior teams. Southern Gaels we're at a disadvantage from the beginning playing arguably the 2 biggest clubs first, and now chance missing out on head to head to a dissolved Clonkill team who edged them by one point prior to losing numerous players!! Turin have a better chance of beating clonkill than SGaels have of beating CG, so I wouldn't be writing them out just yet before this weekend

Truthspeaker56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 02/09/2022 16:15:59    2439440

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Truthspeaker56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 02/09/2022 17:38:25    2439460

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Replying To Truthspeaker56:  "Ringtown have comfortably bet clonkill and raharney and drew to castletown while almost playing their own second string team. It was a bit ridiculous the start of the season for Southern Gaels to play Clonkill and Raharney in the first 2 games before any SENIOR championship games had been played, while ringtown played Turin in the opening game. Southern Gaels narrowly lost both games by a point and 4 points, with both clonkill and raharney losing between 7-10 players since. To my knowledge there was a rule brought in in recent years that intermediate clubs would not have to play "2nd teams" until at least 1 senior championship game was played, this was evident last year while intermediate teams were seperated for the group stage and the year before where the opening round of each group did not include senior teams. Southern Gaels we're at a disadvantage from the beginning playing arguably the 2 biggest clubs first, and now chance missing out on head to head to a dissolved Clonkill team who edged them by one point prior to losing numerous players!! Turin have a better chance of beating clonkill than SGaels have of beating CG, so I wouldn't be writing them out just yet before this weekend"
If southern gaels beat castletown and turin beat Clonkil then that means southern gaels, turin and clonkil all level on 6 points, southern gaels beat turin but lost to clonkil, clonkil beat southern gaels but lost to turin and turin lost to southern gaels but beat clonkil. What happens then to decide 4th place?

Hurlingmad12 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 03/09/2022 12:27:17    2439520

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Replying To Hurlingmad12:  "If southern gaels beat castletown and turin beat Clonkil then that means southern gaels, turin and clonkil all level on 6 points, southern gaels beat turin but lost to clonkil, clonkil beat southern gaels but lost to turin and turin lost to southern gaels but beat clonkil. What happens then to decide 4th place?"
Doubtful that will happen. Turin won't beat Clonkill.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1867 - 03/09/2022 13:56:18    2439530

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Replying To valley84:  "Doubtful that will happen. Turin won't beat Clonkill."
I dont know about that, a weakened clonkil team with 8 or 9 players gone to senior team and turin always bring a fight to clonkil when playing them

Hurlingmad12 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 03/09/2022 17:42:45    2439558

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Replying To Hurlingmad12:  "I dont know about that, a weakened clonkil team with 8 or 9 players gone to senior team and turin always bring a fight to clonkil when playing them"
I stand corrected

Hurlingmad12 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 03/09/2022 19:37:20    2439580

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "Southern Gaels are effectively out of the championship, they will not beat Castletown and even if they do Clonkill will beat Turin so they will be out on head to head either way"
You got it spot on.I thought Southrn Gaels would trouble Castletown.Watching your prediction for todays big game with interest.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1118 - 04/09/2022 10:23:08    2439602

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CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 190 - 04/09/2022 10:37:19    2439605

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Any predictions lads/Ladies,
Wins for the gaels as clonkill won't be pushing hard to mind players and the gaels will want to finish the year on a high , Castletown marginally by 1-3 points and raharney by 15+ points.
Hard to see past raharney joining clonkill in the final

James73 (Westmeath) - Posts: 40 - 04/09/2022 10:42:13    2439608

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Replying To jobber:  "You got it spot on.I thought Southrn Gaels would trouble Castletown.Watching your prediction for todays big game with interest."
Well Clonkill and Raharney are through, so the match that decides the final placing is Castletown v Castlepollard, a draw would open the door for an unlikely reprieve for the Gaels but a draw is unlikely, they don't happen often. Whether or not the Gaels trouble Clonkill too much will depend on how seriously Clonkill take the game, I think they should go all out, otherwise they'll be turning up for a final next month without a truly competitive match for 8 weeks!! I think Clonkill will keep their momentum going with a win if they're focused, and in the big game of the day Castletown will see off an improving Castlepollard. Pollard looked good against poor Cullion and Gaels outfits but were found wanting in their games against teams who have been among the standard bearers and Castletown are in that bracket. Raharney Castletown semi final

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 190 - 04/09/2022 15:09:05    2439639

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Disappointing fare in the park, as previous poster stated pollard struggled when facing higher calibre opposition, young McCormack's injury left them struggling up front especially when it came to goal scoring. They needed at least 2 goals to have any chance but Castletown kept them at bay and result never in doubt Good confidence boost for Jack Gallagher with two goals and Castletown are back to full strength. Championship wide open between three teams. Surprised to see Crookedwood eliminated in senior B championship, they looked second best team throughout championship but ended fourth.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 864 - 04/09/2022 17:55:52    2439652

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Disappointing fare in the park, as previous poster stated pollard struggled when facing higher calibre opposition, young McCormack's injury left them struggling up front especially when it came to goal scoring. They needed at least 2 goals to have any chance but Castletown kept them at bay and result never in doubt Good confidence boost for Jack Gallagher with two goals and Castletown are back to full strength. Championship wide open between three teams. Surprised to see Crookedwood eliminated in senior B championship, they looked second best team throughout championship but ended fourth."
The Wood were joint second going into the last round of games today. Plunketts were fighting for survival and put in their best performance of the season so far to beat the wood by 2 today.
Brownstown beating Brigids did Plunketts the necessary favour but also put themselves into a semi. Southern Gaels beating an already qualified Delvin was the surprise result and sealed the wood's fate, pushing them down to 4th with only the top 3 going through.
Relegation play off now between Brigids and Plunketts. Delvin await the semi winners of Southern Gaels and Brownstown for the final.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1038 - 04/09/2022 20:21:05    2439670

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What sort of a team had clonkill and the gaels have out did clonkill play there full strongest Team or was there changes to previous rounds ? Did the gales care at all?

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 273 - 04/09/2022 20:55:52    2439680

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Replying To BigSur:  "The Wood were joint second going into the last round of games today. Plunketts were fighting for survival and put in their best performance of the season so far to beat the wood by 2 today.
Brownstown beating Brigids did Plunketts the necessary favour but also put themselves into a semi. Southern Gaels beating an already qualified Delvin was the surprise result and sealed the wood's fate, pushing them down to 4th with only the top 3 going through.
Relegation play off now between Brigids and Plunketts. Delvin await the semi winners of Southern Gaels and Brownstown for the final."
Southern Gaels are in the Intermediate so I imagine you are referring to Father Daltons.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1118 - 04/09/2022 21:13:01    2439682

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Fr Dalton's playing Brownstown in senior B semi final, not Southern Gaels. Be surprised if Clonkill left anyone out seeing their last game was 2 weeks ago against Cullion and the county final is 4 weeks away, that's a long time to not play competitive hurling if they rested lads today. Obviously Luke Loughlin is injured but otherwise they're operating at full strength.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 864 - 04/09/2022 21:20:18    2439685

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