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There will be a mixed reaction to McEntee being retained rightly so, but there will be very positive reaction to Henry continuing.
What do you mean by the "You know the saying about the devil you know is better than the devil you don't"
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1607 - 02/08/2023 20:15:11 2498750Link 0
MrUnderhill (Sligo) - Posts: 48 - 03/08/2023 08:24:53 2498778Link 0
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 03/08/2023 10:05:56 2498793Link 0
His job was to get us out of Div 4 and he did that.
The draw for the championship meant that we should get to the Connacht final and we ticked that box.
That put us up against much stronger teams, all bar one played in Div 1. Kildare were the exception and we drew with them . A lot of players were enticed back into the set up, there was really only one player that didn't commit and that's his business. MC Entee is well entitled to another year. There will be a few new lads coming in to the set up. Hopefully Davitt will join up (he was injured last year)
Henry is a terrific manager and has a proven track record. Approx 12 of the starting 15 from the U.20 final are eligible again next year. This brings its own pressures. People can very easily lose the run of themselves (ask any Mayo person )and forget that we are starting from scratch again. We have already lost one of those players for next year with a cruciate injury. Henry would be the first person to say that we need to manage our expectations carefully.
With regard to the devil you know bit.....
We all know what MC Enter is like, if he left we don't know who will come in. I doubt if Sloyane or MC Gowan are ready just yet or indeed may not want the job. Without naming names we have had some shocking appointments. Last year Limerick seem to have landed a top man who was actually favourite for the Mayo job but half way through the year they parted company. Something similar in Donegal.
I hope that clarifies my post and I'm leaving it at that.
I won't be getting into a tit for tat with you because that's what you want.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 03/08/2023 13:01:59 2498833Link 0
onthefortyfive (Sligo) - Posts: 19 - 03/08/2023 13:59:34 2498864Link 0
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 03/08/2023 14:28:29 2498875Link 0
This is a bad decision by the county board. Sean Carroll hasnt got much wrong since he came un particularly at underage winning 3 connaught totles but this is a bad call. There seems to be no freshening up of the mgmt team eithe. Keane gets a 6th year, what has he done to for such loyalty - 1 promotion appears to be sufficient.
Anto (Sligo) - Posts: 336 - 03/08/2023 17:58:34 2498926Link 0
Those surface level objectives had far more to do with the calibre of opposition than McEntee or Keane developing or progressing the team.
We got promoted, did you see the results of Laois and Leitrim in the tailtean. They were the only 2 teams that could have caught us. Down 8-16 Laois 2-12. Leitrim finished bottom of their group without winning a game.
As for the Connacht final achievement, 28 other counties would have achieved the same. The bare minimum. We need to set our sights and standards higher and the County Board statement alludes to this. It was well worded and you can sense the undertones.
I seen little development of players from the matches I watched. Basic skill level was pretty poor for some of the seniors. They didn't give much game time to u20s and it will be interesting to see how that goes next year with Canice, Daire and Dylan etc.. going in. I wouldn't say McEntee or Keane are the greatest communicators and have their favorites. Their match ups were atrocious against the bigger teams and player evaluation after 3 and 5 years remains poor. The match up on Tierney and Enda Smith defied belief, his team selection against Laois. Certain players regressed under them and hopefully they can regain form with their clubs. It will be interesting to see who they ask in from the club championship. You talked about pace and I just look at how they are using Mark Walsh and it galls me. There doesn't seem to be a measurable clear pathway for players into the starting team. I sense personality plays a big part. Heaven forbid you are a quiet assassin.
I think there is far more pressure on McEntee next year because he won't get away with the mistakes he made this year or the tactical or team selection errors. The support for the seniors was poor this year for a few reasons.
In terms of other options, McGowan may not want to be a manager, I don't know the Tourlestrane lads on here should give us some insight but if he did and interviewed very well I'd be giving him the job tomorrow, his experience with Tourlestrane for years and Clare and Roscommon is plenty to bring into the Sligo senior manager role. He has always maximised where he is at and I have only heard good things. Timing is key because Henry and Mitchell are surely a future senior management ticket too. Selector options Sloyane, O Hara and I am interested to see how Mark Brehony does with Marys again this year. Hopefully the next Sligo Manager will have Caroline Currid involved as well.
As for the u20s Henry and Mitchell have worked wonders at underage. Last year was even more impressive given the schools success would have impacted early integration. The round robin is ok because the best team usually comes out on top. Remember Kildare lost to Westmeath in the opening round last year. If its knockout we are at home to the big dogs so you'd like to think we can push on. Either way this group have always responded well to the most pressure and they have a incredible pool of players. Pressure is a privilege simple as that. Once the players keep working hard on their own game and physique we should be fine. You have to trust in that this group are improving as they get older.
All that being said we have to accept McEntee for another year but my tolerance is very low with regards his basic mistakes he makes. He wouldn't get away with that in Armagh that's for sure.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1607 - 03/08/2023 18:44:04 2498931Link 0
McEntee by right should be kept on. I personally amnt a fan of him or his approach but he achieved all the goals set out for him this year. I'd like to see a freshening up of management if we do not get promotion next year. There should be no more morale victories in Sligo. Either achieve or leave. And to be fair McEntee achieved everything he had to. Whether we like it or not. He needs to get new players in after the club championship. He needs to get lads who won't commit to commit. And our county board should be doing everything to do so.
Sligobuck21 (Sligo) - Posts: 114 - 04/08/2023 10:40:53 2498975Link 0
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 04/08/2023 17:05:37 2499066Link 0
The first of the league finals are this evening. It really pisses me off to see a cover charge for Div 4A and 4B finals. All you are doing is roasting the poor people who coming out to support the club's second team.. Div 4 is a pretty poor standard.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 04/08/2023 18:46:21 2499080Link 0
How leagues would have finished under normal rules:
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 06/08/2023 14:41:35 2499245Link 0
St Molaise Gaels 15
St Marys 15
Shamrock Gaels 14
St Farnans 5
Be interesting to see what will happen now as Shamrock Gaels are tied under the new rule with Marys and Molaise and as one poster put up they believe they should qualify based on points available in their games against Marys and Molaise. Wouldn't have been an issue in normal system. Same two teams would have been relegated.
Calry, Coolera and Shamrock Gaels the big winners with the change gaining 3 and 4 points. If ever there was an argument for 8 team league then the difference between the top teams and bottoms in this division proves it. There's not much between any of the bottom 4/5 sides who year on year will be trying to avoid relegation rather than reach a league final. The huge score differences also tell the tale of gulf in class. You'd expect them in an underage table but not the premier adult one.
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 06/08/2023 17:03:21 2499262Link 0
ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 06/08/2023 17:47:30 2499266Link 0
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 06/08/2023 18:19:18 2499269Link 0
On a serious note, was this years leagues not the best in some time? I can't recall the top and bottom of our main leagues being so tight all the way through in 10+ years. Whinging and moaning about GAA is a national sport now and it has seeped into this forum. We won zero underage titles from 1968 to 2021 and we have won 3 since yet posters here have the knives out.
ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 06/08/2023 18:38:51 2499273Link 0
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1574 - 06/08/2023 18:45:02 2499274Link 0
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 06/08/2023 18:45:39 2499275Link 0
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 331 - 06/08/2023 20:34:10 2499294Link 0
ShellyGael (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 06/08/2023 22:20:22 2499316Link 0