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Replying To B&G:  "How did LongfordU-20's do yesterday. Was the final on yesterday"
Game was supposed to on in Lacken GAA pitch Cavan but venue was switched to Darver in County Louth, Longford supposedly objected and refused to travel and the Philly McGuinness Cup was then awarded to Armagh.

pologrounds1947 (Cavan) - Posts: 24 - 12/03/2023 18:42:44    2463571

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Replying To Mull93:  "Has that been confirmed? How will they do that. It was probably straightforward last year in that the bottom team in each group went down. This year you have a different amount of teams in each group. Maybe a playoff is the answer is the fairest way with second from bottom in the group with 6 playing the bottom team in the group with 5.

If the County Board were more transparent and actually put this sort of stuff up on the website then it would make them look better in the long run. As it is people never know what is happening until it happens, or sometimes until the next season!

Things I would like to see on the website:
Bye-Laws - surely these are on a document and it wouldn't be hard to put them on website.
How relegation, promotion etc. is going to be decided.
Transfers - It would be interesting to see the movement each year within the county.

We are 23 years into the 21st century and this sort of information still only goes out to the club secretaries. I'm certain that if this information was more easily available then it would reduce the needless queries that the County Board Secretary and Board members get."
Ask your club secretary or delegates what is going on, that is what they are there for. "Confusion" only seems to arise from trolls here with ulterior motives.
All transfers are on the GAA and Leinster websites

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 219 - 12/03/2023 20:54:51    2463622

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "
Replying To Mull93:  "Has that been confirmed? How will they do that. It was probably straightforward last year in that the bottom team in each group went down. This year you have a different amount of teams in each group. Maybe a playoff is the answer is the fairest way with second from bottom in the group with 6 playing the bottom team in the group with 5.

If the County Board were more transparent and actually put this sort of stuff up on the website then it would make them look better in the long run. As it is people never know what is happening until it happens, or sometimes until the next season!

Things I would like to see on the website:
Bye-Laws - surely these are on a document and it wouldn't be hard to put them on website.
How relegation, promotion etc. is going to be decided.
Transfers - It would be interesting to see the movement each year within the county.

We are 23 years into the 21st century and this sort of information still only goes out to the club secretaries. I'm certain that if this information was more easily available then it would reduce the needless queries that the County Board Secretary and Board members get."
Ask your club secretary or delegates what is going on, that is what they are there for. "Confusion" only seems to arise from trolls here with ulterior motives.
All transfers are on the GAA and Leinster websites"
I've only seen transfers where players are switching clubs in different counties. Put up the link where the transfers within a county are, as I have not seen one.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1247 - 12/03/2023 21:10:14    2463628

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Replying To Spinx:  "
Replying To liosbreac6265:  "[quote=Mull93:  "Has that been confirmed? How will they do that. It was probably straightforward last year in that the bottom team in each group went down. This year you have a different amount of teams in each group. Maybe a playoff is the answer is the fairest way with second from bottom in the group with 6 playing the bottom team in the group with 5.

If the County Board were more transparent and actually put this sort of stuff up on the website then it would make them look better in the long run. As it is people never know what is happening until it happens, or sometimes until the next season!

Things I would like to see on the website:
Bye-Laws - surely these are on a document and it wouldn't be hard to put them on website.
How relegation, promotion etc. is going to be decided.
Transfers - It would be interesting to see the movement each year within the county.

We are 23 years into the 21st century and this sort of information still only goes out to the club secretaries. I'm certain that if this information was more easily available then it would reduce the needless queries that the County Board Secretary and Board members get."
Ask your club secretary or delegates what is going on, that is what they are there for. "Confusion" only seems to arise from trolls here with ulterior motives.
All transfers are on the GAA and Leinster websites"
I've only seen transfers where players are switching clubs in different counties. Put up the link where the transfers within a county are, as I have not seen one."]I misread above, you're right, there is no online database for transfers within the county. Same thing though, this is what our club secretaries and delegates are for.

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 219 - 12/03/2023 21:24:14    2463632

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Replying To pologrounds1947:  "Game was supposed to on in Lacken GAA pitch Cavan but venue was switched to Darver in County Louth, Longford supposedly objected and refused to travel and the Philly McGuinness Cup was then awarded to Armagh."
Not true

williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 343 - 13/03/2023 10:12:22    2463659

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Groups and changes for this years league:

Division 1: From 12 to 11 teams. Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels out, Sean Connollys in.
Division 2: From 6 to 7 teams. Killashee out, Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels in.
Division 3: Stays at 7 teams. Ballymore up to Div 2, Killashee down to Div 3.

Division 1 - Group 1
Colmcille
Abbeylara
Dromard
Killoe
Clonguish

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Granard
Carrickedmond
Mostrim
Seán Connollys

Division 2
Fr. Manning Gaels
Rathcline
Ardagh Moydow
Kenagh
Ballymahon
Cashel
Ballymore

Division 3
Killashee
Legan Sarsfields
Grattan Óg
Colmcille 2
Killoe 2
Longford Slashers 2
Clonguish 2

100% agree with posters asking for league and championship rules to be published. Just add a simple news item, that would do it. The website exists to communicate with the public. Delegates are not elected to act as the communications arm of the County Board. They are there to represent the interests of their club and to enable decision making. The county website and social media is there to communicate information of interest to the public, so it's entirely reasonable in my opinion for league/championship rules to be published there.

On the 'two tables' thing, this is frustrating, but I don't think it's the County Boards fault. All county and club fixtures across the country are managed through a central database which websites and apps link to for fixtures, results and tables. That uses the normal points allocation for win or draw. In Longford those points are now different for each half of the season (with and without county players). I don't think they can change that central database, so to display the divisions correctly for that bespoke arrangement in Longford, they have to create separate manual tables. That's my understanding, happy to be corrected if wrong.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 500 - 13/03/2023 11:59:22    2463680

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Groups and changes for this years league:

Division 1: From 12 to 11 teams. Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels out, Sean Connollys in.
Division 2: From 6 to 7 teams. Killashee out, Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels in.
Division 3: Stays at 7 teams. Ballymore up to Div 2, Killashee down to Div 3.

Division 1 - Group 1
Colmcille
Abbeylara
Dromard
Killoe
Clonguish

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Granard
Carrickedmond
Mostrim
Seán Connollys

Division 2
Fr. Manning Gaels
Rathcline
Ardagh Moydow
Kenagh
Ballymahon
Cashel
Ballymore

Division 3
Killashee
Legan Sarsfields
Grattan Óg
Colmcille 2
Killoe 2
Longford Slashers 2
Clonguish 2

100% agree with posters asking for league and championship rules to be published. Just add a simple news item, that would do it. The website exists to communicate with the public. Delegates are not elected to act as the communications arm of the County Board. They are there to represent the interests of their club and to enable decision making. The county website and social media is there to communicate information of interest to the public, so it's entirely reasonable in my opinion for league/championship rules to be published there.

On the 'two tables' thing, this is frustrating, but I don't think it's the County Boards fault. All county and club fixtures across the country are managed through a central database which websites and apps link to for fixtures, results and tables. That uses the normal points allocation for win or draw. In Longford those points are now different for each half of the season (with and without county players). I don't think they can change that central database, so to display the divisions correctly for that bespoke arrangement in Longford, they have to create separate manual tables. That's my understanding, happy to be corrected if wrong."
That is exactly what delegates are for, they attend county board meetings and bring the information back to their club. The county secretary also circulates the information to each club secretary. All necessary information is there for anyone who wants it.

All league standings for the coming year as are they should be. So much for the "corruption"

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 219 - 13/03/2023 12:44:08    2463690

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Groups and changes for this years league:

Division 1: From 12 to 11 teams. Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels out, Sean Connollys in.
Division 2: From 6 to 7 teams. Killashee out, Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels in.
Division 3: Stays at 7 teams. Ballymore up to Div 2, Killashee down to Div 3.

Division 1 - Group 1
Colmcille
Abbeylara
Dromard
Killoe
Clonguish

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Granard
Carrickedmond
Mostrim
Seán Connollys

Division 2
Fr. Manning Gaels
Rathcline
Ardagh Moydow
Kenagh
Ballymahon
Cashel
Ballymore

Division 3
Killashee
Legan Sarsfields
Grattan Óg
Colmcille 2
Killoe 2
Longford Slashers 2
Clonguish 2

100% agree with posters asking for league and championship rules to be published. Just add a simple news item, that would do it. The website exists to communicate with the public. Delegates are not elected to act as the communications arm of the County Board. They are there to represent the interests of their club and to enable decision making. The county website and social media is there to communicate information of interest to the public, so it's entirely reasonable in my opinion for league/championship rules to be published there.

On the 'two tables' thing, this is frustrating, but I don't think it's the County Boards fault. All county and club fixtures across the country are managed through a central database which websites and apps link to for fixtures, results and tables. That uses the normal points allocation for win or draw. In Longford those points are now different for each half of the season (with and without county players). I don't think they can change that central database, so to display the divisions correctly for that bespoke arrangement in Longford, they have to create separate manual tables. That's my understanding, happy to be corrected if wrong."
How many rounds are played with/without county players

B&G (Longford) - Posts: 287 - 13/03/2023 13:02:56    2463700

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Replying To B&G:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Groups and changes for this years league:

Division 1: From 12 to 11 teams. Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels out, Sean Connollys in.
Division 2: From 6 to 7 teams. Killashee out, Rathcline & Fr. Manning Gaels in.
Division 3: Stays at 7 teams. Ballymore up to Div 2, Killashee down to Div 3.

Division 1 - Group 1
Colmcille
Abbeylara
Dromard
Killoe
Clonguish

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Granard
Carrickedmond
Mostrim
Seán Connollys

Division 2
Fr. Manning Gaels
Rathcline
Ardagh Moydow
Kenagh
Ballymahon
Cashel
Ballymore

Division 3
Killashee
Legan Sarsfields
Grattan Óg
Colmcille 2
Killoe 2
Longford Slashers 2
Clonguish 2

100% agree with posters asking for league and championship rules to be published. Just add a simple news item, that would do it. The website exists to communicate with the public. Delegates are not elected to act as the communications arm of the County Board. They are there to represent the interests of their club and to enable decision making. The county website and social media is there to communicate information of interest to the public, so it's entirely reasonable in my opinion for league/championship rules to be published there.

On the 'two tables' thing, this is frustrating, but I don't think it's the County Boards fault. All county and club fixtures across the country are managed through a central database which websites and apps link to for fixtures, results and tables. That uses the normal points allocation for win or draw. In Longford those points are now different for each half of the season (with and without county players). I don't think they can change that central database, so to display the divisions correctly for that bespoke arrangement in Longford, they have to create separate manual tables. That's my understanding, happy to be corrected if wrong."
How many rounds are played with/without county players"
1 full round.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1247 - 13/03/2023 15:02:58    2463739

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B&G (Longford): How many rounds are played with/without county players?

Last year wasn't it first 5 games played without county players, and last 5 played with them, so the points you got was different for the last 5 games versus the first 5?

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 500 - 13/03/2023 19:38:30    2463799

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First half of ACFL is from 8th April to 28th May without county players. The last group game in Tailteann Cup is on weekend of 3rd June, so if Longford don't qualify for the knock-out stage, the second half of ACFL resumes around 10th June with county players. If it's the same as last year, the fixtures for the second half of the league won't be published until Longford is out of Tailteann Cup. (PS - If Offaly beats Longford in Leinster Championship on 9th April, there is no county game for 5 weeks until Tailteann Cup starts on 13-14th May, but county players cannot go back to play for their clubs for any of the 3 rounds of ACFL that happens during that period).

My understanding is that for first half of the league (8-Apr to 28-May), it's 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw, and in second half of league it's 3 for a win and 2 for a draw. Last year this applied to Divisions 1 and 2 (not to Division 3).

Using panel from the last game against Offaly, here is breakdown of how many county players per club likely won't be featuring in first half of ACFL:

Division 1 - Group 1
Killoe = 4
Colmcille = 2
Abbeylara = 2
Dromard = 2
Clonguish = 0

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta = 3
Longford Slashers = 2
Granard = 1
Carrickedmond = 1
Sean Connollys= 1
Mostrim = 0

Division 2
Rathcline = 2
Fr. Manning Gaels = 1
Kenagh = 1
Cashel = 1
Ardagh Moydow = 0
Ballymahon = 0
Ballymore = 0

Division 3
Killashee = 1
Legan = 0
Grattans = 0

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 500 - 14/03/2023 11:43:28    2463855

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "First half of ACFL is from 8th April to 28th May without county players. The last group game in Tailteann Cup is on weekend of 3rd June, so if Longford don't qualify for the knock-out stage, the second half of ACFL resumes around 10th June with county players. If it's the same as last year, the fixtures for the second half of the league won't be published until Longford is out of Tailteann Cup. (PS - If Offaly beats Longford in Leinster Championship on 9th April, there is no county game for 5 weeks until Tailteann Cup starts on 13-14th May, but county players cannot go back to play for their clubs for any of the 3 rounds of ACFL that happens during that period).

My understanding is that for first half of the league (8-Apr to 28-May), it's 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw, and in second half of league it's 3 for a win and 2 for a draw. Last year this applied to Divisions 1 and 2 (not to Division 3).

Using panel from the last game against Offaly, here is breakdown of how many county players per club likely won't be featuring in first half of ACFL:

Division 1 - Group 1
Killoe = 4
Colmcille = 2
Abbeylara = 2
Dromard = 2
Clonguish = 0

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta = 3
Longford Slashers = 2
Granard = 1
Carrickedmond = 1
Sean Connollys= 1
Mostrim = 0

Division 2
Rathcline = 2
Fr. Manning Gaels = 1
Kenagh = 1
Cashel = 1
Ardagh Moydow = 0
Ballymahon = 0
Ballymore = 0

Division 3
Killashee = 1
Legan = 0
Grattans = 0"
Are extended panel members outside the 26 excluded from the first 5 league games, or are they allowed to play?

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 14/03/2023 12:56:57    2463875

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Replying To honda15:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "First half of ACFL is from 8th April to 28th May without county players. The last group game in Tailteann Cup is on weekend of 3rd June, so if Longford don't qualify for the knock-out stage, the second half of ACFL resumes around 10th June with county players. If it's the same as last year, the fixtures for the second half of the league won't be published until Longford is out of Tailteann Cup. (PS - If Offaly beats Longford in Leinster Championship on 9th April, there is no county game for 5 weeks until Tailteann Cup starts on 13-14th May, but county players cannot go back to play for their clubs for any of the 3 rounds of ACFL that happens during that period).

My understanding is that for first half of the league (8-Apr to 28-May), it's 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw, and in second half of league it's 3 for a win and 2 for a draw. Last year this applied to Divisions 1 and 2 (not to Division 3).

Using panel from the last game against Offaly, here is breakdown of how many county players per club likely won't be featuring in first half of ACFL:

Division 1 - Group 1
Killoe = 4
Colmcille = 2
Abbeylara = 2
Dromard = 2
Clonguish = 0

Division 1 - Group 2
Mullinalaghta = 3
Longford Slashers = 2
Granard = 1
Carrickedmond = 1
Sean Connollys= 1
Mostrim = 0

Division 2
Rathcline = 2
Fr. Manning Gaels = 1
Kenagh = 1
Cashel = 1
Ardagh Moydow = 0
Ballymahon = 0
Ballymore = 0

Division 3
Killashee = 1
Legan = 0
Grattans = 0"
Are extended panel members outside the 26 excluded from the first 5 league games, or are they allowed to play?"
Surly extended panel members outside the 26 can play some part of the first half of the league. obviously the 26 will change slightly but it is going to leave 10+ of our county footballers with no match time whatsoever for approx 2-3 months if so!

Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 87 - 14/03/2023 14:07:12    2463899

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The numbers above are for the current panel of 26 from the Offaly game (i.e. 24 + Foy + Connerton). I would think extended panel members outside of the 26 would be able to play in the first half of the league, but absent any published rules, I don't know.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 500 - 14/03/2023 15:25:33    2463908

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "The numbers above are for the current panel of 26 from the Offaly game (i.e. 24 + Foy + Connerton). I would think extended panel members outside of the 26 would be able to play in the first half of the league, but absent any published rules, I don't know."
[email protected]

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 219 - 14/03/2023 17:16:46    2463933

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "The numbers above are for the current panel of 26 from the Offaly game (i.e. 24 + Foy + Connerton). I would think extended panel members outside of the 26 would be able to play in the first half of the league, but absent any published rules, I don't know."
[email protected]"
Both honda15 (Longford) and Garmin (Longford) asked the question about the extended squad, not me. If you have information to help answer their question, please add it. If you don't and have no value to add beyond showing your knowledge of email addresses, then maybe don't post. This is a forum for sharing of opinions and information. You clearly think that both of them should, for some reason, contact the secretary of the Killoe club to get an answer for the county panel question both of them asked. I will let you explain to them why you think that makes sense on an online forum designed to debate exactly these sorts of questions.

In the meantime, if anyone has an answer to the question posed by the two posters above about the extended panel, (which I am also interested to know) please let us know.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 500 - 14/03/2023 18:39:05    2463949

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "The numbers above are for the current panel of 26 from the Offaly game (i.e. 24 + Foy + Connerton). I would think extended panel members outside of the 26 would be able to play in the first half of the league, but absent any published rules, I don't know."
Surely they should put it out in the open for everyone to know. What's the big secret?

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1247 - 14/03/2023 20:30:44    2463957

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I see we have 5 clubs from the County playing in the Leinster League this year. Should be a good run out for them.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1247 - 14/03/2023 20:33:21    2463960

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Replying To Spinx:  "I see we have 5 clubs from the County playing in the Leinster League this year. Should be a good run out for them."
where is this?

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 15/03/2023 11:15:45    2463990

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https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/leinster-club-leagues-2023/

Seems Interesting, fair play to the clubs that have entered as I feel the football schedule seems pretty packed as it is, but its a great way of preparing for the year ahead with some strong teams involved!

Also I agree on the above both about this forum, less of the childish bull lads, no need whatsoever!!

Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 87 - 15/03/2023 12:03:57    2464000

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