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Replying To monaghanmad: "Murtagh didnt look like much of an all star in clones this year, when push came to shove in the 2nd half he couldny be found. That is where all stars appear." Roscommon can have no complaints. We flopped in Clones against a bang average Monaghan team. This season is done. On to next year and I have high hopes for the Rossies in their primrose and blue.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2797 - 30/10/2026 21:06:35
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Replying To endgame: "Roscommon can have no complaints. We flopped in Clones against a bang average Monaghan team. This season is done. On to next year and I have high hopes for the Rossies in their primrose and blue." Haven't we all?
Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 996 - 30/10/2026 23:21:20
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Replying To monaghanmad: "In the end roscommon looked fairly average with everyone" With everyone fairly average then they wouldn't have stayed up in Division 1 and won Connacht against two Division 1 teams.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 1008 - 31/10/2026 00:04:43
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Bad day for Four Roads and Roscommon hurling with a 37 point defeat. Game as contest was over after 10 minutes. Was like watching a minor team up against inter county senior team given the difference in physicality and conditioning. Not sure if such a match did Tooreen much good either.
The manner they beat Ballyhaunis and how Four Roads was lucky to beat a 14 man Dominic's and Oran twice the writing was on the wall.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4534 - 31/10/2026 15:06:06
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Replying To The_analyser: "Bad day for Four Roads and Roscommon hurling with a 37 point defeat. Game as contest was over after 10 minutes. Was like watching a minor team up against inter county senior team given the difference in physicality and conditioning. Not sure if such a match did Tooreen much good either.
The manner they beat Ballyhaunis and how Four Roads was lucky to beat a 14 man Dominic's and Oran twice the writing was on the wall." Shocking reflection on Roscommon hurling considering how dominant Four Roads have been. Doesn't seem that long ago when the Roscommon clubs would routinely beat Tooreen. The gap seems huge now.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 641 - 31/10/2026 18:14:43
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Replying To FullOfPorter: "Shocking reflection on Roscommon hurling considering how dominant Four Roads have been. Doesn't seem that long ago when the Roscommon clubs would routinely beat Tooreen. The gap seems huge now." Time for our champions to go Junior?
Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 996 - 31/10/2026 18:57:22
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Replying To Seanfan: "Time for our champions to go Junior?" You may have a point. Four Roads rode their luck to win the Roscommon championship but this results points to serious regression. Interesting to see how far Tooreen progress. That is a wake up call if ever there was one for the state of Roscommon club hurling. Like Athleague and Ros Gaels are out of the conversation at the moment in club context in Roscommon. This result is saying that our club champions are very poor and that the pretenders are no better.
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1536 - 31/10/2026 19:50:57
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Replying To Seanfan: "Time for our champions to go Junior?" Tooreen to Senior should have been the case for a number of years now a bit of nonsense that they had to win the All-Ireland to be allowed to play at a higher level.
Into a 12th year without a win in the Connacht championship or against a Mayo club now.
Today the worst of the lot.
2025 Four Roads lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2024 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2023 Four Roads lost by 9 points to Tooreen
2022 Four Roads lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2021 Athleague lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2020 no championship
2019 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2018 Athleague lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2017 Pearses lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2016 Oran lost by 6 points to Ballyhaunis
2015 Four Roads beat Ballyhaunis by 3 points
So how and why did the 5 to 15 point defeats become 37 today is the main question.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4534 - 31/10/2026 22:37:24
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Replying To FullOfPorter: "Shocking reflection on Roscommon hurling considering how dominant Four Roads have been. Doesn't seem that long ago when the Roscommon clubs would routinely beat Tooreen. The gap seems huge now." No shame. Tooreen have a brilliant team. Could have won the all Ireland this year against Tipp opposition and three years ago against Limerick opposition. Will be interesting to see how they get on against stronger Galway opposition this year.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 12313 - 31/10/2026 22:39:58
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Replying To Seanfan: "Time for our champions to go Junior?" Probably. Would Four Roads beat the Sligo hurling champions, for instance? Probably not.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4111 - 01/11/2026 09:31:05
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Replying To The_analyser: "Tooreen to Senior should have been the case for a number of years now a bit of nonsense that they had to win the All-Ireland to be allowed to play at a higher level.
Into a 12th year without a win in the Connacht championship or against a Mayo club now.
Today the worst of the lot.
2025 Four Roads lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2024 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2023 Four Roads lost by 9 points to Tooreen
2022 Four Roads lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2021 Athleague lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2020 no championship
2019 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2018 Athleague lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2017 Pearses lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2016 Oran lost by 6 points to Ballyhaunis
2015 Four Roads beat Ballyhaunis by 3 points
So how and why did the 5 to 15 point defeats become 37 today is the main question." Roscommon clubs were edging the Mayo clubs when they all went into a senior Connacht championship. That is a shocking record in intermediate level. Would dual players having played for Aidans in the junior final explain how that 5-15 point margin reached nearly 40? I think Tooreen have upped their game this year in preparation for stronger Galway opposition and the hurt of losing that final last year. Are Four Roads playing challenges against Galway intermediate teams?
Tooreen probably should be playing senior but then again the Galway intermediate club this year should be around the same standard.
I agree with Yew no shame in losing or even getting a bit of a hiding from a great Tooreen team that should have won at least one of the two All Ireland's but a near 40 point defeat is brutal.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 641 - 01/11/2026 10:54:57
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Replying To FullOfPorter: " Replying To The_analyser: "Tooreen to Senior should have been the case for a number of years now a bit of nonsense that they had to win the All-Ireland to be allowed to play at a higher level.
Into a 12th year without a win in the Connacht championship or against a Mayo club now.
Today the worst of the lot.
2025 Four Roads lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2024 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2023 Four Roads lost by 9 points to Tooreen
2022 Four Roads lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2021 Athleague lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2020 no championship
2019 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2018 Athleague lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2017 Pearses lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2016 Oran lost by 6 points to Ballyhaunis
2015 Four Roads beat Ballyhaunis by 3 points
So how and why did the 5 to 15 point defeats become 37 today is the main question." Roscommon clubs were edging the Mayo clubs when they all went into a senior Connacht championship. That is a shocking record in intermediate level. Would dual players having played for Aidans in the junior final explain how that 5-15 point margin reached nearly 40? I think Tooreen have upped their game this year in preparation for stronger Galway opposition and the hurt of losing that final last year. Are Four Roads playing challenges against Galway intermediate teams? Tooreen probably should be playing senior but then again the Galway intermediate club this year should be around the same standard. I agree with Yew no shame in losing or even getting a bit of a hiding from a great Tooreen team that should have won at least one of the two All Ireland's but a near 40 point defeat is brutal."
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1536 - 01/11/2026 14:47:40
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Would dual players having played for Aidans in the junior final explain how that 5-15 point margin reached nearly 40?
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Probably played a part in it as 15 Aidans players are part of the Four Roads set up so would be a lack of training and prep for those players with Four Roads and would have celebrated their Junior success.
Still doesn't fully explain how and why the margin went out to near 40 points. If Tooreen beat London opposition by the same margin next weekend it might explain it better.
Won't be easy for the Aidans lads involved to pick things up for their Connacht Junior Quarter final v Ardagh in Castlebar on Saturday.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4534 - 01/11/2026 16:30:56
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Replying To moros: " Replying To FullOfPorter: "[quote=The_analyser: "Tooreen to Senior should have been the case for a number of years now a bit of nonsense that they had to win the All-Ireland to be allowed to play at a higher level.
Into a 12th year without a win in the Connacht championship or against a Mayo club now.
Today the worst of the lot.
2025 Four Roads lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2024 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2023 Four Roads lost by 9 points to Tooreen
2022 Four Roads lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2021 Athleague lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2020 no championship
2019 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2018 Athleague lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2017 Pearses lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2016 Oran lost by 6 points to Ballyhaunis
2015 Four Roads beat Ballyhaunis by 3 points
So how and why did the 5 to 15 point defeats become 37 today is the main question." Roscommon clubs were edging the Mayo clubs when they all went into a senior Connacht championship. That is a shocking record in intermediate level. Would dual players having played for Aidans in the junior final explain how that 5-15 point margin reached nearly 40? I think Tooreen have upped their game this year in preparation for stronger Galway opposition and the hurt of losing that final last year. Are Four Roads playing challenges against Galway intermediate teams? Tooreen probably should be playing senior but then again the Galway intermediate club this year should be around the same standard. I agree with Yew no shame in losing or even getting a bit of a hiding from a great Tooreen team that should have won at least one of the two All Ireland's but a near 40 point defeat is brutal."
Teams in Roscommon would it not be much better put all in one group snd play 6 matches surely it would have to help all clubs improve because as it is it ain't helping snd in reality if u in a group with 3 win one game ur into semi ,,
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1190 - 01/11/2026 17:53:47
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Replying To Kickitout: " Replying To moros: "[quote=FullOfPorter: "[quote=The_analyser: "Tooreen to Senior should have been the case for a number of years now a bit of nonsense that they had to win the All-Ireland to be allowed to play at a higher level.
Into a 12th year without a win in the Connacht championship or against a Mayo club now.
Today the worst of the lot.
2025 Four Roads lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2024 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2023 Four Roads lost by 9 points to Tooreen
2022 Four Roads lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2021 Athleague lost by 15 points to Tooreen
2020 no championship
2019 Four Roads lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2018 Athleague lost by 5 points to Tooreen
2017 Pearses lost by 10 points to Tooreen
2016 Oran lost by 6 points to Ballyhaunis
2015 Four Roads beat Ballyhaunis by 3 points
So how and why did the 5 to 15 point defeats become 37 today is the main question." Roscommon clubs were edging the Mayo clubs when they all went into a senior Connacht championship. That is a shocking record in intermediate level. Would dual players having played for Aidans in the junior final explain how that 5-15 point margin reached nearly 40? I think Tooreen have upped their game this year in preparation for stronger Galway opposition and the hurt of losing that final last year. Are Four Roads playing challenges against Galway intermediate teams? Tooreen probably should be playing senior but then again the Galway intermediate club this year should be around the same standard. I agree with Yew no shame in losing or even getting a bit of a hiding from a great Tooreen team that should have won at least one of the two All Ireland's but a near 40 point defeat is brutal."
Teams in Roscommon would it not be much better put all in one group snd play 6 matches surely it would have to help all clubs improve because as it is it ain't helping snd in reality if u in a group with 3 win one game ur into semi ,,"]Two things at play, Four Roads and Roscommon hurling is regressing dramatically and this is an exceptional Tooreen side. Tooreen are a joy to watch, great first touch and proper heads up hurling. I really hope they go one further this year and win it out.
We cant deny the results and we now need to be regraded to the provincial junior championship and I agree with previous posts we would struggle to beat the Sligo champions.
It's sad to see how our standard has fallen , lets hope its a cycle that will turn upwards again. We have to work collectively at improving first touch and the speed and intensity at which we play across all the clubs.
facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 233 - 01/11/2026 19:40:48
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Im going to cover a lot of the above posts in one here.
1. Tooreen are streets ahead of every club team in Connacht outside of the Galway Senior hurling championship. What they are achieving there is exceptional and should serve as an inspiration to everyone trying to promote hurling in football country. It can be done. They deserve their opportunity to try to win their all ireland and shouldn't be pushed up to senior just because they are better as has been suggested.
2. Roscommon hurling is actually improving. Im around the county for 25 years now and I saw the decline year on year. In my opinion there is a lot of talented hurlers now coming through across the 7 clubs. Hanley is a loss to the county team but if they can replace him with someone of similar knowledge and ability then they can grow as a team. They are a young squad , in general, and need a lot of S+C work but the hurling is in them given the right structure and guidance to establish themselves as a Christy Ring team and even move towards winning it given time.
3. The Club championship, within the county, is probably as competitive as it has been in many a year. 4 Roads are still winning it but that's, currently, more through others not taking their chance than 4 roads dominance. The power of the jersey and making less mistakes rather than superior hurling.
4. The Club championship structure. Id like to see the 7 teams plsy each other once (6 games) too. I dont know if it can fit in the calender though. As it stands each team plays 4 championship round robin games( its a complicated system that i dont fully understand that decides who plays who) and then there is 2 quarter finals followed by semi finsls and a final so it takes a minimum of 6 games to win it.
There is also a senior and junior league before that with 6 games in each plus a final so there are plenty of games now.
5. The standard is low in terms of quality and fitness but it is rising. Young playes are coming through in every club and raising the standard. Some of the older lads are still hurling well too. I wouldnt judge hurling in the rest of connacht (outside galway) by Tooreen standards. They are exceptional as I said earlier. 4 roads, Dominics, Oran would compete strongly with Ballyhaunis and any other club in Mayo, Sligo and Leitrim. Id back them to win in most games.
Thats my opinion on where Roscommon hurling is. Yesterday was a bad day for Four Roads on a good day for a very good Tooreen. It isnt a reflection on Roscommon or even Mayo hurling. Roscommon county hurling team is at a cross roads. If the county board makes a good management team appointment they can progress together and achieve real progress. If they get it wrong an opportunity will be lost, I would argue again..
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Im going to cover a lot of the above posts in one here.
1. Tooreen are streets ahead of every club team in Connacht outside of the Galway Senior hurling championship. What they are achieving there is exceptional and should serve as an inspiration to everyone trying to promote hurling in football country. It can be done. They deserve their opportunity to try to win their all ireland and shouldn't be pushed up to senior just because they are better as has been suggested.
2. Roscommon hurling is actually improving. Im around the county for 25 years now and I saw the decline year on year. In my opinion there is a lot of talented hurlers now coming through across the 7 clubs. Hanley is a loss to the county team but if they can replace him with someone of similar knowledge and ability then they can grow as a team. They are a young squad , in general, and need a lot of S+C work but the hurling is in them given the right structure and guidance to establish themselves as a Christy Ring team and even move towards winning it given time.
3. The Club championship, within the county, is probably as competitive as it has been in many a year. 4 Roads are still winning it but that's, currently, more through others not taking their chance than 4 roads dominance. The power of the jersey and making less mistakes rather than superior hurling.
4. The Club championship structure. Id like to see the 7 teams plsy each other once (6 games) too. I dont know if it can fit in the calender though. As it stands each team plays 4 championship round robin games( its a complicated system that i dont fully understand that decides who plays who) and then there is 2 quarter finals followed by semi finsls and a final so it takes a minimum of 6 games to win it.
There is also a senior and junior league before that with 6 games in each plus a final so there are plenty of games now.
5. The standard is low in terms of quality and fitness but it is rising. Young playes are coming through in every club and raising the standard. Some of the older lads are still hurling well too. I wouldnt judge hurling in the rest of connacht (outside galway) by Tooreen standards. They are exceptional as I said earlier. 4 roads, Dominics, Oran would compete strongly with Ballyhaunis and any other club in Mayo, Sligo and Leitrim. Id back them to win in most games.
Thats my opinion on where Roscommon hurling is. Yesterday was a bad day for Four Roads on a good day for a very good Tooreen. It isnt a reflection on Roscommon or even Mayo hurling. Roscommon county hurling team is at a cross roads. If the county board makes a good management team appointment they can progress together and achieve real progress. If they get it wrong an opportunity will be lost, I would argue again.." Finally, an informed opinion... iv read a lot of the comments over the past few days and in general they are uninformed and basing things solely on the results of the past 15 years in the intermediate connacht championship... this is simply a case of Tooreen being that good, and the rest being below their level... I would add a couple of points to the above... Roscommon beating Mayo in the Nickey Rackard final 2 years ago would suggest theres no gap between Mayo hurling and Ros, again its simply that Tooreen in isolation are that good. Tooreen themselves are pulling from a huge pick of a few clubs, 1 fella even travelling from Ballina to hurl (this isnt me knocking them btw, just pointing out the advantage they have in a numbers sense). Also with regards to Four Roads, they themselves have gone through a huge transition in the past 2 seasons, this year they have a number of hurlers starting in the age bracket of 18-23. A number of their older, experienced lads have moved on. Those wondering how it went from 5 points to 37 this year, this might explain it. A fierce young Four Roads side coming up against a juggernaut with All Ireland ambitions.. I acknowlege the fact the 37 point beating looks awful and no one will be hurting more than the four roads lads themselves, but I don't this the outlook overall is as bad as some would suggest. The tide will hopefully turn soon.
Rossie14 (Roscommon) - Posts: 34 - 02/11/2026 13:17:29
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Winning provincial Intermediate title should be enough to gain promotion to senior.
Tooreen have won 6 of the last 8 Connacht finals and reached a couple of All-Ireland finals there is no question that they have been a senior quality club in that period of time and that group of players have been denied the opportunity to test themselves against senior clubs with a silly system in place.
If not enough for senior so be it and then return to Intermediate as is the case for many football clubs.
As good as Tooreen are for this level when any team lose by 37 points it's says more about the team that has received the beating.
Roscommon in the Christy ring Cup on the other hand played 5 won 0 drew 1 lost 4. Finished bottom and deserved relegation yet another silly system meant they stayed up because New York beat Tyrone preventing them opportunity to gain promotion.
Roscommon also played in Division 3 this year finishing 3rd missing out on a final place and the opportunity for promotion.
Overall year league and championship
P11 W4 D2 L5 win percentage of 36%
Roscommon manager Brian Hanley jumped ship after one year in charge. Middle of May was his last match and left in the middle of September why did it take him four months to reach that decision?
The Roscommon county board appointment to be similar to him as suggested above? I think what Roscommon hurling needs is someone that will stick around for a few years and try to build something and build confidence with a better win percentage record.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 4105 - 02/11/2026 14:47:50
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