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Replying To tommy k: "Someone mentioned that O'Shea for Mayo was much faster to the ball than Fitzgerald. O'Shea is 33 now and will be 34 in June so there is no way he should be faster than a man much younger than him. Surely there are better fullbacks in the county although in fairness he wasn't the only one who didn't perform yesterday. PJ is certainly under pressure now and can't see it getting any better for him anytime soon." Fitzgerald was one of our better players yesterday, did very little wrong. Don't know what game you were watching, probably had your mind made up on him before the game.
MeAlone (Galway) - Posts: 75 - 29/01/2024 22:57:50
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Replying To FatLadySinging: "The posts/comments on this forum are so negative and mainly rubbish that they are doing nothing except harm to the best interests of Galway football. I hope the players who are regularly the subject of uninformed and ignorant criticism by people who seem to rarely attend matches, are not reading this stuff as it wouldn't do them any good at all. It is only January for God's sake. Teams that are going well now may be found seriously wanting when the competition gets to the business end. In the meantime please refrain from denigrating individual players but try to be encouraging and positive like good supporters should be." You are correct in a sense, as in the result.. the manner of it... Underperforming players etc.. that isn't really important at this time of year.
But what is a fact is that during the summer, our restarts will be as bad as they are now, we'll be giving extra possessions to the opposition from ours and letting them win theirs easily.. and it's very hard to win a game of football if you're going to just cough up extra possessions to the opposition.
Mayo's first goal came from an unnecessary and aimless long kick out, as it did in the Championship last year... That won't change as the year moves on.
Gilberto_Eire (Galway) - Posts: 73 - 29/01/2024 23:12:03
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Replying To Fox.1n.7he.b0x: "Regarding Conor Gleason's kick outs I do think they are slow but I do also think it's what management are looking for they are looking for him to go long and with defensive structures that are in place it takes time to get up the pitch into position, what scares me is we looked at 6/7s no patterns to our play no game plan what so ever where mayo were sharper better off the shoulder and made some really dangerous runs at pace, we can only get better we will need to get better Roscommon game is a must win game," I'm no fan of Gleeson but I will admit that Oran Burke was booming them down the week before when Roscommon pressed. It's obviously coming from the line. Very strange
smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 404 - 29/01/2024 23:27:05
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Replying To Brandyh: "The minute I saw the team lineup last week I knew we were in trouble and I posted here saying so. I could go through the team and say who should be starting or not but I will spare you the hassle for if PJ and his crew can't see it whats the point. He is in over his head and he has been from day one. We got lucky to reach and AI final 2 years ago and with the help of McDaid and Walsh performances we should have won. I'm afraid that we're a long way off from bringing Sam back to Galway" Who was missing v mayo for ye? Comer , two Kelly's and Mc Daid ? Who else. ?
TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1170 - 29/01/2024 23:36:01
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Replying To PierreBezuhov: "Agree - getting vexed or excited at this time of year is ok if you're from Belmullet or Ballina, but not if you're from Belcare or Ballyconneely." Lol.
ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 30/01/2024 06:35:21
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Who was missing v mayo for ye? Comer , two Kelly's and Mc Daid ? Who else. ?" Jack Glynn,Cian Hernon,Liam Silke,Conor Flaherty
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 30/01/2024 08:11:11
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Who was missing v mayo for ye? Comer , two Kelly's and Mc Daid ? Who else. ?" Liam Silke ( All Star 2022)
Cillian McDaid ( All Star and POY nominee 2022)
Damian Comer ( All Star 2022)
Jack Glynn ( YPOY 2022)
Patrick Kelly ( 2022 AI starter)
Paul Kelly
Cian Hernon ( 2023 starter)
James McLoughlin ( potential midfield starter)
Sam O'Neill ( huge prospect and widely tipped to have been 2024 midfield starter)
Tomo Culhane
Conor Flaherty ( potentially no 1 keeper)
In addition the following players came on as subs as they were nursing injuries/not at full fitness ( all 3 have been first 15 selections for the last few years including AI final 2022 )
Paul Conroy
Matthew Tierney
Robert Finnerty
This is on top of the non availability through travel / long term injury of
Ian Burke
Peter Cooke
Michael Daly
Still doesn't excuse the poor performance Sunday , but it gives a bit of context.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 912 - 30/01/2024 10:38:21
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Replying To PierreBezuhov: "I'm not "wumming". Counting Connacht titles is for the Sligos, Leitrims and Roscommons of this world. But if that is your chosen metric, Galway and Mayo each have more than twice as many Connacht titles as Roscommon, and World War 2 was still going on when Ros last won an All Ireland. They simply aren't comparable to Mayo or Galway in any way, shape or form. There is no rivalry there. Roscommon know what they are - the best of the rest in Connacht. That's the way it will stay as long as we have football played on a county basis.
Don't get too carried away about the league either. It's unseemly." I think you must be from Glinsk or the eastern fringes of Ballygar or Newbridge, given your withering disdain for Roscommon :-) Have you been to many of our matches with them over the last decade or so?! They're actually ahead of us at the moment and we'd be doing very well to beat them in the Hyde.
We're entitled to get a bit worked up about the league when it's Div 1, when it's our first home game, when it's against our century plus long arch rivals, when we owed them one, when we're trying to start with intent, and when we show up playing worse lethargic rubbish than we finished with last season when we were duly lumped out of it in our backyard again. PJ and co are in their 5th, yes, fifth year in charge and we still don't have a keeper, a structured and tenacious defence, we certainly don't have a top drawer midfield and our forwards have no attacking shape or don't know what each other are doing. It feels unfair to intermediate clubs to say it's intermediate grade prep in terms of our sheer lack of well thought out game plan, strategy and execution.
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 936 - 30/01/2024 10:59:32
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Sundays game highlighted the impact Sean kelly makes on the team in terms of leadership, they were lost out there without him. I think we can't judge them until Sean is back in action.
Peter Cooke was also a huge loss. Liam O Conghaile was brilliant, great to see him come out and perform with that confidence.
Gearoid1998ffowaed (Galway) - Posts: 92 - 30/01/2024 11:04:11
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Replying To Marooned: "Gallagher is gone off the panel. Probably should have got more game time that he did when he was there but either way he's gone now." Such a loss. Why Padraig Joyce didn't play Owen gallagher once is a total mystery. We could have done with a fast player like him.
Gearoid1998ffowaed (Galway) - Posts: 92 - 30/01/2024 11:08:13
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Replying To anotheralias: "Liam Silke ( All Star 2022)
Cillian McDaid ( All Star and POY nominee 2022)
Damian Comer ( All Star 2022)
Jack Glynn ( YPOY 2022)
Patrick Kelly ( 2022 AI starter)
Paul Kelly
Cian Hernon ( 2023 starter)
James McLoughlin ( potential midfield starter)
Sam O'Neill ( huge prospect and widely tipped to have been 2024 midfield starter)
Tomo Culhane
Conor Flaherty ( potentially no 1 keeper)
In addition the following players came on as subs as they were nursing injuries/not at full fitness ( all 3 have been first 15 selections for the last few years including AI final 2022 )
Paul Conroy
Matthew Tierney
Robert Finnerty
This is on top of the non availability through travel / long term injury of
Ian Burke
Peter Cooke
Michael Daly
Still doesn't excuse the poor performance Sunday , but it gives a bit of context." And I just realised I forgot Sean Kelly. Multiple all star nominee and probably biggest loss if all
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Just wondering who will take over from PJ next year? Will it be Kevin Walshe again? any thoughts?
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Guys, I think we are too hard on the team and the management. Its very early in the year, nothing was ever won in January. The team did not preform last Sunday and neither did the management. To be fair were missing a lot of good players. The late penalty made a big difference to the score line.
That said, I question this management team's ability to spot good players because they got rid of some very good players at the beginning of their term and they have done the same every year since. Eoin Kerins was a great corner back, a hard man who took no prisoners and they let him go, they did the same thing to Declan Kayne, Sean Andy Kelly, Ruairi Lavelle, Ronan Boland, Owen Gallagher, Barry McHugh, Antoine and Finian O Laoi, Ciarán Duggan, Eamonn Brannigan, Eoin Finnerty and a few more. Michael Daly didn't feature (I know he was injured) but he wasn't there at the beginning of their term and now Peter Cooke is gone as well. Well one might say - who am I to question what they did or what they are doing but it makes me wonder. Still lets keep the faith and back both the team and the management.
JakeTheMan (Galway) - Posts: 19 - 30/01/2024 12:56:08
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Just wondering who will take over from PJ next year? Will it be Kevin Walshe again? any thoughts?" Kevin Johnson maybe....Would also need good selectors.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 30/01/2024 12:57:15
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Just wondering who will take over from PJ next year? Will it be Kevin Walshe again? any thoughts?" Bunty might throw his hat in the ring
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Just wondering who will take over from PJ next year? Will it be Kevin Walshe again? any thoughts?" kevin o brien for me along with dave morris..
they will play a style of football that suits the players..
its quiet clear and obvious joyce/management not up too it..
team have gone stale., no energy.,pace.,desire.,hunger..its just not there and our style
of play does not suit the players and you can see that in there body language..
very interesting point made in a podcast regarding shane walsh...
he simply doesnt look like a player who is enjoying playing inter county anymore..
see him with club in dublin and he's a different player..
maybe all the football and travelling is taking its toll on him..such a pity for a talented player.
gbay (Galway) - Posts: 261 - 30/01/2024 13:13:02
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Replying To anotheralias: "And I just realised I forgot Sean Kelly. Multiple all star nominee and probably biggest loss if all" Can't figure out why people keep saying we missing Michael Daly he day is done ian Burke think he scored 2 points last year , the players who didn't start v mayo and should be available for championship
Jack Glynn
Liam silke
Sean Kelly
Cillian Mcdaid
Tierney
Finnerty
Comer
Not sure if I've missed someone
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 899 - 30/01/2024 13:32:05
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is patrick kelly even on the panel..
come to mention it does anybody even no the league panel..
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Replying To LottoPlus: "Just wondering who will take over from PJ next year? Will it be Kevin Walshe again? any thoughts?" kevin O Brien with Dave morris beside him.
gbay (Galway) - Posts: 261 - 30/01/2024 13:46:11
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While I wouldn't be as negative as several posters on here since last Sunday, there are several issues for Galway:
1. Lads unavailable because of injuries and other reasons. Galway have a very strong starting 15 and maybe 3-4 good subs, when everyone is fit. It has been the case that Galway struggle badly when they're missing key players like Comer, S Kelly or J Daly.
2. Galway forward line can't function without Comer. This has been the way for the last 9-10 years as I see it and remains the case. If he hadn't have had to come off v Mayo in Salthill last summer, Galway would have won.
3. Team selection. Anyone who has seen C Darcy play club, never mind county will know he isn't good enough for Galway. This was the case when he played for Caherlistrane. He seems an honest lad trying his best but Mayo's first goal came off him. Is S Mulkerrin really a wing back and if so is he good enough for Galway? I never saw Niall Daly play full forward until last Sunday.
Eoin Finnerty from Mountbellew-Moylough has been and still is one of the best club players in Galway. He destroyed Corofin twice as a full-forward in 2020 and 21 - doing more damage than anyone else, to end their brilliant run. Why isn't he given a chance at full-forward when Comer is unavailable? I know he played v Tyrone in league last year but good ball wasn't kicked into him. Brian Mannion from Tuam is also a consistent club player. Either E Finnerty or him would be a better option than Niall Daly at 14. I accept that if Comer, Walsh and Rob Finnerty all fit and firing, neither would start.
Rory O'Connor from Tuam was one of the best defenders in the senior championship in 2023 and has been consistent for a handful of years. Has he ever been called into the Galway senior set-up? I would have him, James Foley from MM or Cathal Sweeney as wing backs ahead of Mulkerrin. Sweeney has been probably the best club half back in the last 2 seasons.
Liam Costello from Milltown was excellent in senior championship last year. I know he's more of a scoring half forward or corner forward than a worker but surely he would have been a better half-forward option than Darcy? He wasn't that bad in the FBD final.
4. Style of play. Galway have gone from a team who looks to move the ball fast, as they did when Joyce first came in - to a methodical possession team. Last season it worked well until the defeat to Armagh. I can see some reasoning - most teams play that way and Galway have better forwards than all counties bar Kerry and maybe Dublin. So Galway probably reason we'll beat most teams playing that way. I thought it worked very well v Roscommon last year - Galway controlled and won the match. But there needs to be more pace and variety in the attack and a few 50-50s or 40-60s chanced into a good full-forward. Galway will not beat Kerry or Dublin by playing a methodical possession game.
5. Cian O'Neill. I would give him alot of credit for improving Galway's defence. But does he have too much influence? Kildare played a slow boring game when he was over them - they had one consistent season in 2017 and a few good results in 18 after beating Mayo but still lost out to Monaghan and Galway in last 8s. He was involved with Cork in 2020 and they were allergic to moving the ball fast. I can only think the slow possession game is coming from him. Does anyone else think this?
Overall, I think Galway on paper are the 4th best team in the country when everyone is fit - after Dublin, Kerry and Derry. But if problems like the above aren't solved, Galway will remain good on paper, but not on the pitch.
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