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Replying To tirawleybaron: "I wouldn't normally post on another Counties thread but since hoganstand mixed them all up it's a bit of a free for all these days so here goes.
First of all, hard luck on Galway, played a great 65min but they ultimately lost for a number of key reasons:
1. Lock of a bench - or management refusal to use it. In the modern game you need subs coming on regularly from the 45 min so as not to disrupt your game but to have at least 5 fresh men up to speed and fresh enough to make big plays when it counts - Galway didn't have that. If they can gather up Peter Cooke and a few more they can fix that
2. Turnovers. Kerry kicked 8 points from turnovers. In every other aspect of the game Galway broke even or were slightly ahead - possession, attacks, scores from play etc. But someone made the point Kerry (as Dublin used to do) foul your defenders coming out which gives them the time they need to drop back and defend. Galway let Kerry out with turnover ball and couldn't get back into position.
There really want much more to it than that. There are naturally a few calls here and there, but they are marginal and probably balance out. On these:
1 John Daly committed a foul and Comer actually touched the ball on the ground while falling over it just before.
2. Galway keeper shouldn't have been black carded - he pulled the jersey which isnt a black card offence.
3. Spillane took too many steps for a score
But in reality, they didn't effect the game, after 65min Galway were wrecked and Kerry's subs were dominating the game. None of Galways subs impacted the game and that was the difference
I thought Shane Walsh was fabulous and really stood up in the 2nd half to keep Galway in it. However, no man can do it on his own and Galway had no real attacking plan other than to give it to Walsh and see what he can create. When he got tired the game was up.
PS. Someone needs to talk to Walsh about trying Hollywood sideline kicks at the end of matches. It's too low of a percentage shot and the stakes are too high for that. He'd be better served to play a one two and get in field 20m. Despite that, he really impressed me and killed off my previous criticism of his desire when it counted.
Good to see Galway back, I do believe that having Mayo and Galway strong at the same time will push both on to new heights." I would agree with most of that. The turnover of possession at key times and allowing 8 points from those was a killer alright and Galway only had 2 turnovers leading to points. Also no team can have 4 forwards being held scoreless like Galway had with Comer, Tierney, Finnerty and Kelly with a fifth forward Heaney only scoring 1 point which should have been a goal if it was taken properly. I wasn't happy with the lack of movement, energy and support play from the Galway forwards even during the first half - I know it was a humid day but surely a lack of fitness or desire should not have been an issue. Walsh and McDaid were outstanding but 2 players scoring more than 80% of the total scores with the remainder scored by backs is never going to win an AI. Subs should have been introduced much earlier as Conroy and the 4 non-scoring forwards were not in the game for most of it and the subs that were introduced were ineffective. It seemed that Joyce was on his own on the sideline without any consultation with his selectors / trainers and I saw no sign O'Neill with him whereas O'Connor for Kerry always seemed to be in serious conversation with his selectors from what I saw at least. Not very convincing from the Galway management IMO.
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 30/07/2022 13:56:01
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Shane Walsh wants a transfer to kilmacaud crokes apparently.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1696 - 30/07/2022 15:08:07
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There is a good bit of talk about Galways bench not being up to it and If they get Cooke, Daly, Ian Burke, Varley, etc back they be in a great position. Seems to me very wishful thinking. I'd be of the opinion there is good reason they aren't on the panel so I'm not sure if any of them are a serious runner to come back?
morethanever (Galway) - Posts: 3 - 30/07/2022 15:12:37
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Shane Walsh looking to leave his local club and join Kilmacud Crokes in Dublin……
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1888 - 30/07/2022 15:28:00
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Anyone know if Shane told his club he was seeking the transfer? They seem to have had no idea by their statements but don't know if that's true.
If someone is living in Dublin I don't have much issue with them transferring. Hard for a small club though
Championship is about to start if he didn't let his team know that's poor form.
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 30/07/2022 15:43:13
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I have an issue with people that Kerry were the best team and deserved to win
1) Heaney should not have his shot blocked over the bar
2) McDade Had a monster game but missed 2 very kickable point
3) Shane Walsh had a monster game but trying to kick a point with the last free was ill advised
4) The foul call against Daly was crucial
5) Kelly tried to hand pass a point that came back off the goal post
The score was 16-16 when the foul was given against Daly was critical point who knows what could have happened if he had got a free out or even a play on call. The Galway lads gave as good as they got they came up short which is not bad nobody gave them a fighting chance except a couple diehard fans like myself and I am proud of them. Maroon and White forever
fishpond (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 30/07/2022 17:17:19
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Replying To fishpond: "I have an issue with people that Kerry were the best team and deserved to win
1) Heaney should not have his shot blocked over the bar
2) McDade Had a monster game but missed 2 very kickable point
3) Shane Walsh had a monster game but trying to kick a point with the last free was ill advised
4) The foul call against Daly was crucial
5) Kelly tried to hand pass a point that came back off the goal post
The score was 16-16 when the foul was given against Daly was critical point who knows what could have happened if he had got a free out or even a play on call. The Galway lads gave as good as they got they came up short which is not bad nobody gave them a fighting chance except a couple diehard fans like myself and I am proud of them. Maroon and White forever" Ifs and buts and fine margins….we know all about it in Mayo but truth be told you make your own luck. I could write a book on our near misses and clutch moments.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 30/07/2022 18:10:03
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Super year from the footballers
An honour to be in Croke Park last week to see the effort, ability and heart shown by the Galway team
I think the bench was light and I feel that a number of the below could or would have made a contribution on the Day and or season:
Kyne
SA o Ceallaigh
Flynn
Cooke
M Daly
Mulkerrin
Mc Laughlin
We need to dig out another 5-6 for the panel and hopefully this will be done over the winter
O Flatherty also
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Replying To Maroonedinlongford2: "Super year from the footballers
An honour to be in Croke Park last week to see the effort, ability and heart shown by the Galway team
I think the bench was light and I feel that a number of the below could or would have made a contribution on the Day and or season:
Kyne
SA o Ceallaigh
Flynn
Cooke
M Daly
Mulkerrin
Mc Laughlin
We need to dig out another 5-6 for the panel and hopefully this will be done over the winter
O Flatherty also" Won't be any surprise if half of that list never pulls on a Galway shirt again.
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 31/07/2022 15:40:01
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Replying To morethanever: "There is a good bit of talk about Galways bench not being up to it and If they get Cooke, Daly, Ian Burke, Varley, etc back they be in a great position. Seems to me very wishful thinking. I'd be of the opinion there is good reason they aren't on the panel so I'm not sure if any of them are a serious runner to come back?" Varley was always a very useful sub for Galway to be fair. Cooke and Michael Daly are certainly more than good enough to play intercounty football. Whether they actually want to is another question. Not sure about Ian Burke. Hasn't even been playing much club football recently.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2207 - 01/08/2022 13:07:29
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Daly or Varley didn't feature last year either, think Cooke the most likely to be back.
Culhane is still on 19 or 20, Joyce clearly seen something in him 2 years ago when he called him into the senior panel so would expect him to pushing for a place next year. Conneely and Eoin Finnerty both need to kick on.
Paul Kelly has lost his place to Patrick Kelly who in fairness looks a real talent but still think there's a lot more in Paul, still only 20 or 21.
Like this year I'm sure there'll be a few other who'll make the step up, there's a lot of players around 20/21/22 knocking around the panel. A lot of posters questioned McHugh's involvement in the team in recent years but we've seen how he's grown in his role after benefitting from a few years S & C, there'll be others like him.
TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 02/08/2022 16:54:33
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Predictions this weekend:
St. James v Carraroe - Jimmies by 2
Tuam v Leitir Mor - Tuam by 8
Corofin v O'ard - Corofin by 10+
St. Michaels v Claregalway - CG by 1
Salthill v Bearna - Salthill by 3
Moycullen v Spiddal - Moycullen by 10+
Killanin v Milltown - Killanin by 2
Caherlistrane v Monivea - Caherlistrane by 1
M/M v Annaghdown - Draw
tribesman123 (Galway) - Posts: 36 - 03/08/2022 12:50:25
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Key is the maintain current panel and build off it. Galway have struggled to keep a core group to together and that has hindered us. The talent is there.
ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1568 - 03/08/2022 13:38:32
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Looking back to Connacht final i think is shows how important that game was and how much management is on a knife-edge. Cunningham gone from Roscommon would still be manager next year had they won and its highly doubtful Joyce would see 2023 as Galway manager by losing that final.
Needs to build on the AI final appearance now. Improving and trusting his bench more in tight matches will be one key requirement for a very congested 2023 ahead
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 04/08/2022 13:34:45
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Replying To Yondu: "Won't be any surprise if half of that list never pulls on a Galway shirt again." I would be surprised . I think 5 of the 8 will. 3 probably wont.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 04/08/2022 14:55:28
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Replying To Yondu: "Looking back to Connacht final i think is shows how important that game was and how much management is on a knife-edge. Cunningham gone from Roscommon would still be manager next year had they won and its highly doubtful Joyce would see 2023 as Galway manager by losing that final.
Needs to build on the AI final appearance now. Improving and trusting his bench more in tight matches will be one key requirement for a very congested 2023 ahead" The game was was a walk in the park, Galway in full control from early on in the game.
Roscommon were very poor and never looked like beating Mayo in 2020 and Galway in 2021.
TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 04/08/2022 15:31:55
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Replying To TheBishop: "The game was was a walk in the park, Galway in full control from early on in the game.
Roscommon were very poor and never looked like beating Mayo in 2020 and Galway in 2021." It was 0-4 each after 17 minutes the contest swung in Galways favour with the Shane Walsh goal and just moments before it Roscommon wasted a goal opportunity of their own
A fortuitous 2nd goal just before half time put the lead out to six given Galway control of the contest. A margin that would remain in place until injury time. So two important scores in the context of that game.
@anotheralias out of interest in your opinion who would those 5 be?
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 04/08/2022 17:50:30
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With nice weather forecast and a bit of a buzz about Galway football , hopefully good crowds and good games this weekend. Its not often we get the opportunity to go and watch players who are soon to be All-Stars and All Star nominees in club football in Galway.
Championship is more open this year than for several years. Corofin still favourites but not as overwhelmingly so as previous years as even though they weren't reigning champions last year , people saw 2020 as a temporary blip rather than a signal that Moycullen and Mountbellew had caught up with them. We now know that this is the case , and despite a strong showing from Corofin in the league, there are 3 strong contenders this year with little to choose between them. But are these as far ahead of everyone else as we think. Milltown and Annaghdown both drew with Mountbellew last year. Tuam have ran Moycullen and Corofin very close in recent years. Will the underachieving underage giants of Salthill or Claregalway come of age this year ? Are Killanin slipping back into the pack? And what about the others? For sure we still have a few teams in senior who are making up the numbers in terms of any realistic chance of lifting FF, but I think not as many as recent years.
Lots of permutations and lots to look forward to over the next couple of months.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 05/08/2022 09:08:44
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Replying To Yondu: "It was 0-4 each after 17 minutes the contest swung in Galways favour with the Shane Walsh goal and just moments before it Roscommon wasted a goal opportunity of their own
A fortuitous 2nd goal just before half time put the lead out to six given Galway control of the contest. A margin that would remain in place until injury time. So two important scores in the context of that game.
@anotheralias out of interest in your opinion who would those 5 be?" A bit of probability theory applied. 1st three at 30% probability or less. Next 5 at 80% probability or more. Expected value around 5.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 05/08/2022 11:53:27
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Tuam,Corofin, Salthill and Claregalway all to win today.
Hopefully Leitír Mór do well back up Senior but the Stars is a tough one!
Salthill v Barna .... local derby could be tight!
Claregalway and Corofin should have enough quality and experience to see them through!
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 06/08/2022 14:49:18
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