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Intercounty Players Who Had One Or Two Good Seasons And Then Just Disappeared..Both Codes

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Jonathan Clancy of Clare late 2000s
Philip Maher of Tipperary early 2000s
Michael White of Waterford late 1990s
David Forde of Clare
John Reddan of Clare

And don't start me on the Limerick under21s of the early 2000s - too many of that team were never heard of again."
Jonathan Clancy and John Reddan I think are the only ones to fit spot on into the topic, the others had a few seasons...John Reddan just came and went..Clancy had maybe 2 seasons and then went...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 06/05/2021 17:22:16    2340300

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Replying To oneoff:  "Timmy Houlihan the keeper from those teams. What was his story? Was it an attitude thing? He seemed to be coming and going for the bones of 10 years."
TImmy Houlihan was in and around for a few years...as was Albert Shanahan..maybe not as long but was always in and around and then just went...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 06/05/2021 17:23:20    2340301

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Apologies. Anthony Kirwan scored 2-1 in that game"
Anthony Kirwan, I remember him..big danger man of a full forward and then gone..Sean Growler Daly came and went and made a come back then after a few years and then gone...thats why I hate to see some of that great winning minor team not coming through...DJ Foran I thougt was gone but was back on senior panel last year though didnt feature much..some talen as a minor..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 06/05/2021 17:25:33    2340302

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Replying To Bon:  "Dan Murphy was a class act, I was very surprised that he never made an impact at senior level."
anyone remember yer man I mentioned Finabr Delaney??...Cha I wouldnt have as "here and gone" bracket, he had a good few seasons..I know he went young enough at 27 but he had a good few sucessful seasons and medals behind him..he wasnt a one hit wonder as they say...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 06/05/2021 17:27:28    2340303

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Anthony Gleeson from Knocknagoshel was another"
He was from John Mitchell's in Tralee. Was very unlucky when he came along. Played in some of Kerrys biggest losses in the 90s but always seemed to miss out on the wins

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 06/05/2021 18:29:04    2340315

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "anyone remember yer man I mentioned Finabr Delaney??...Cha I wouldnt have as "here and gone" bracket, he had a good few seasons..I know he went young enough at 27 but he had a good few sucessful seasons and medals behind him..he wasnt a one hit wonder as they say..."
Was he from Blackrock? If it's the fella I'm thinking of he was actually about 30 be the time he actually made his debut.

Cha is a strange one. While he retired at 27 in was in reality done about 25. Got very little game time after 09. He was even finished up at club level quite young.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 06/05/2021 18:34:16    2340318

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Apologies. Anthony Kirwan scored 2-1 in that game"
Anthony was a Portlaw man and when he moved to the city joined Mount Sion. He was a good player. Sometimes I think it is better for the player to stay with his own club. It seems to make better leaders of them because the are the top man.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 06/05/2021 21:39:11    2340338

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Apologies. Anthony Kirwan scored 2-1 in that game"
Anthony was a Portlaw man and when he moved to the city joined Mount Sion. He was a good player. Sometimes I think it is better for the player to stay with his own club. It seems to make better leaders of them because the are the top man.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 06/05/2021 22:01:16    2340342

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Replying To oneoff:  "He was from John Mitchell's in Tralee. Was very unlucky when he came along. Played in some of Kerrys biggest losses in the 90s but always seemed to miss out on the wins"
Ya Anthony Gleeson played some great ball for Kerry in the early 90's but was unlucky with the players around him.

He was main full back for years until Barry Shea stepped up.

Killian Burns from Sneem was a great prospect but disappeared as fast.

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 06/05/2021 22:02:02    2340343

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Jonathan Clancy of Clare late 2000s
Philip Maher of Tipperary early 2000s
Michael White of Waterford late 1990s
David Forde of Clare
John Reddan of Clare

And don't start me on the Limerick under21s of the early 2000s - too many of that team were never heard of again."
Those Under 21 teams gave us Stephen Lucey, Damien Reale, Brian Geary, Peter Lawlor, Conor Fitzgerald Mark O'Riordan, Pat Tobin, James O'Brien, Niall Moran, Donnacha Sheehan and Andrew O'Shaughnessy, whose career was destroyed by illness. Could we really have expected much more. And remember Lucey, O'Riordan and Fitzgerald were dual players.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 06/05/2021 22:42:17    2340348

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "Ya Anthony Gleeson played some great ball for Kerry in the early 90's but was unlucky with the players around him.

He was main full back for years until Barry Shea stepped up.

Killian Burns from Sneem was a great prospect but disappeared as fast."
Killian Burns was around the panel in 2000 and might have even played in the Munster final that year. He came back with the Junior team in around 03/04.

Dennis O Dwyer was another from 97. Again was still around the panel in 2000 but was gone soon after. I think he made a short return in the McGragh Cup a few years after. I'm not sure if he was playing with Soutg Kerry from 2004-06.

Brian Clarke was another from 97. Was a big talent but played very little even at club level post 97.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 07/05/2021 09:16:11    2340370

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Those Under 21 teams gave us Stephen Lucey, Damien Reale, Brian Geary, Peter Lawlor, Conor Fitzgerald Mark O'Riordan, Pat Tobin, James O'Brien, Niall Moran, Donnacha Sheehan and Andrew O'Shaughnessy, whose career was destroyed by illness. Could we really have expected much more. And remember Lucey, O'Riordan and Fitzgerald were dual players."
Sean O'Connor not mentioned above and I believe he really fell by the wayside...he made a bit of a comeback as such but nothing came of it...he was lethal full forward on some of those U21 teams...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 07/05/2021 09:37:31    2340373

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Sean O'Connor not mentioned above and I believe he really fell by the wayside...he made a bit of a comeback as such but nothing came of it...he was lethal full forward on some of those U21 teams..."
Yeah he was a class act, absolutly lethal player.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1909 - 07/05/2021 13:27:15    2340406

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Those Under 21 teams gave us Stephen Lucey, Damien Reale, Brian Geary, Peter Lawlor, Conor Fitzgerald Mark O'Riordan, Pat Tobin, James O'Brien, Niall Moran, Donnacha Sheehan and Andrew O'Shaughnessy, whose career was destroyed by illness. Could we really have expected much more. And remember Lucey, O'Riordan and Fitzgerald were dual players."
Yes they gave us those players. But what did those players win at senior level? Nothing.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 07/05/2021 14:22:29    2340413

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Setanta Ó hAilpín

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 07/05/2021 14:44:27    2340420

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Those Under 21 teams gave us Stephen Lucey, Damien Reale, Brian Geary, Peter Lawlor, Conor Fitzgerald Mark O'Riordan, Pat Tobin, James O'Brien, Niall Moran, Donnacha Sheehan and Andrew O'Shaughnessy, whose career was destroyed by illness. Could we really have expected much more. And remember Lucey, O'Riordan and Fitzgerald were dual players."
And didn't big Brian Begley play on one of those winning U-21 teams, too? And he gave years of senior service in both codes afterwards!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 07/05/2021 16:07:15    2340440

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "Setanta Ó hAilpín"
There was a Sean Og Ó hAilpín too. I remember he played against Meath in the 1999 final. Seemed to just disappear then. Often wondered what ever became of him.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 07/05/2021 16:34:38    2340443

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Yes they gave us those players. But what did those players win at senior level? Nothing."
very harsh words there I think some will agree...most of them names are well known to most hurling followers, and I think some might have been on the panel in 2018 (not sure but was James O'Brien) and the others certainly put in decent performances for Limerick too..Niall Moran for example to choose one, he always put in a decent shift...every county has 5/6/7 top class hurlers most of the time but unfortunately you need around 11 or 12 to win anything..Kilkenny are finding that now as some of the players who came on the scene at the end of the 4 in a rown team or susequent wins, and are now the mainstay of the current Kilkenny team, but will they win anything??..possibly not, they may end up playing out their careers without an All Ireland medal but so be it, they cant be held to account if Kilkenny dont win an All Ireland...DJ Carey was one of the best hurlers in Kilkenny and won 2 All Irelands in 92 and 93 but spent another 7 years before getting another in 2000 (against Offaly) but only he was exceptional he would have probably been gone by the time 2000 came..I wouldnt fault any of the LImerick lads above for Limerick not winning, many more didnt come through unfortunately...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 07/05/2021 17:12:41    2340446

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Derek Duggan had a sensational debut season for Roscommon in 1991 at the age of 19. He scored an incredible equalizing point with the last kick of the game in the drawn Connacht final. In the all-Ireland semi-final, he tormented the Meath full-back line in a game that Roscommon should have won: link
He never reached the same heights again and I believe his inter-county career only lasted a few years.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 07/05/2021 17:18:04    2340447

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Sean O'Connor not mentioned above and I believe he really fell by the wayside...he made a bit of a comeback as such but nothing came of it...he was lethal full forward on some of those U21 teams..."
Yee and I also forgot Brian Begley. In the 2007 All Ireland Final, five tears after te last Under 21 win of the three, Damien Reale, Stepnen Lucey, Mark O'Riordan. Peter Lawlor, Brian Geary, Niall Moran, James O'Brien, Sean O'Connor Brian Begley and Andrew O'Shaughnessy all played some part. Donnacha Sheehan, Mark Keane and Connor Fitz also played also played for a number of years with the county.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 07/05/2021 20:33:37    2340461

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