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Ulster Final Donegal V Cavan

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So for the second year in a row it's Donegal v Cavan. Is it the first time that Armagh have hosted an Ulster Senior Football Final?
I'd be happy enough with Donegals two performances to date however Armagh were very dissapointing yesterday so it's hard to gauge exactly how good we are at present. Cavan have shown they will play to the final whistle and the win today is massive for them so they'll be coming into next weekend with the experience of playing Donegal last year and will just have a right go at it.
Donegal have dominated teams in the middle third so far this year so will be interesting to see what Cavan do there. Cavan are certainly big and strong in that sector so it could be intense. If Hugh Mc Fadden is injured then it will be a massive loss to Donegal.
Overall I think we will always ship scores as our defence is light at present and injuries to Stephen Mc Menamin and Paddy Mc Grath aren't helping but we have fantastic options in the forwards and would expect us to have too much firepower for the Cavan defence to cope with. I'll go with Donegal by a 4/5

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1686 - 15/11/2020 16:47:37    2309330

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For Cavan to have any chance in this game, we simply have to play route one football like we did today. Launch it into Madden and live off the scraps. Teams don't like defending a high ball into the square, and it pays dividends for us as Madden and Galligan both have a solid pair of hands.

If we play for 70 minutes and not merely for 35 like we have done in each game so far, I'd give us a chance. Last year nerves and expectation hampered us undoubtedly.

So you never know.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 15/11/2020 17:33:42    2309386

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Would also expect this game to be moved, the pitch in Armagh is a mess.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 15/11/2020 17:35:32    2309392

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Should be a great final, suppose we are favs but Cavan will not be easy to beat, we have great forwards but we are a bit weak at the back so that evens it up, can't wait, big prize on offer of 3 in a row for us.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3826 - 15/11/2020 18:22:17    2309460

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Would also expect this game to be moved, the pitch in Armagh is a mess."
The west of the province (Enniskillen, Omagh) always struggle to have good pitches this time of year; if Armagh is bad then those would almost be unplayable. Clones doesn't have floodlights and I don't think you can take Donegal to Newry or Cavan to Derry? It's also unlikely Donegal would want to give home advantage to Cavan. Therefore it's hard to imagine the game will be moved as I think the Armagh pitch whilst not perfect will be the best location/playable pitch available in the province.

It also shows the problem with finding good pitches as the championship goes on and why the All Ireland series will 100% be played in Croke Park; despite as expected resistence from Donegal if they win Ulster.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 15/11/2020 18:25:44    2309462

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Mickey Graham stated after the game on BBC that donegal are an inferior team to Cavan. Great confidence from our manager there. If we could put 70 minutes together we'd have a fighting chance. Congratulations lads.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 299 - 15/11/2020 18:26:45    2309463

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Mickey Graham stated after the game on BBC that donegal are an inferior team to Cavan. Great confidence from our manager there. If we could put 70 minutes together we'd have a fighting chance. Congratulations lads."
Mickey Graham must be living be different universe.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 15/11/2020 19:03:59    2309507

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Mickey Graham stated after the game on BBC that donegal are an inferior team to Cavan. Great confidence from our manager there. If we could put 70 minutes together we'd have a fighting chance. Congratulations lads."
Did he really say that? That's an interesting comment but I doubt he said that.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1478 - 15/11/2020 19:08:10    2309515

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "Mickey Graham must be living be different universe."
He said it alright but I'm sure he meant superior.. listen to the whole interview and what he says. Thankfully Mickey does live on this planet...

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 616 - 15/11/2020 19:15:52    2309526

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Mickey Graham stated after the game on BBC that donegal are an inferior team to Cavan. Great confidence from our manager there. If we could put 70 minutes together we'd have a fighting chance. Congratulations lads."
He meant superior. It was a slip of the tongue, thought that was obvious.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5333 - 15/11/2020 19:18:59    2309533

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "Mickey Graham must be living be different universe."
No he is right, Cavan are a superior team to the div 1team going for 3 Ulsters in a row, sure Cavan are a div 3 team and last won the Anglo Celt in 1997, Mickey Graham is spot on, genius of a man, you can see why he's the manager.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3826 - 15/11/2020 19:19:53    2309534

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "No he is right, Cavan are a superior team to the div 1team going for 3 Ulsters in a row, sure Cavan are a div 3 team and last won the Anglo Celt in 1997, Mickey Graham is spot on, genius of a man, you can see why he's the manager."
It's ok Calm down boss

Benjy1000 (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 15/11/2020 19:33:02    2309547

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FAKE NEWS ALERT, Mickey did not mean that, it was just a slip of the tongue, right before that he said they were coming up against one of the top 2 teams in the country who taught them a lesson on how to play football last year.
I want the record to show that I retract my previous comment on the matter!!

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3826 - 15/11/2020 19:33:45    2309552

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Mickey Graham stated after the game on BBC that donegal are an inferior team to Cavan. Great confidence from our manager there. If we could put 70 minutes together we'd have a fighting chance. Congratulations lads."
Clearly he meant to say superior, it was a very obvious slip of the tongue.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 15/11/2020 19:44:00    2309563

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Replying To cavanman47:  "He meant superior. It was a slip of the tongue, thought that was obvious."
Have u ever heard of sarcasm? Thought that was obvious.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 299 - 15/11/2020 19:46:13    2309565

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Yes he did say it and of course it was a slip of the tongue. Calm down lads.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 299 - 15/11/2020 19:51:46    2309569

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Huge task for Cavan.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 15/11/2020 20:20:26    2309594

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Yes he did say it and of course it was a slip of the tongue. Calm down lads."
He did say it but fairly certain it made a mistake the previous sentence was Donegal are emerging as challengers to Dublin - he was playing the underdog - everyone will write us off - nothing to lose card so the inferior as completely out of context

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 15/11/2020 21:42:26    2309672

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Donegal will win Sam.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 969 - 15/11/2020 22:10:10    2309691

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It's back in Armagh again. The pitch didn't look great in the second half..
Anyways hopefully Cavan can compete. Can't be relying on playing in one half.
The Ulster final last year was over at half time. Give a better account then what Armagh did, and somethings to build for next year.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2950 - 15/11/2020 22:39:55    2309713

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