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Tormey, the best full forward in the county? that is a big claim, didnt look in the best of shape on Friday night, think McGill will get the better of him, Ratoath will do them Tobin and McKeever only got back from the States on Thursday, Nathan O'Brien only on Tuesday, all 3 togged out but did not feature, you have to think that they will in the Quarter Final. Skryne going very well and in Paddy O'Rourke have a real handful at full forward, the match will be decided on whether Simonstown deal with him. Think the just might, Kells and Tones will be serious battle, Kells will shade it but Dunboyne will have to much for either. Summerhill v Cilles, CIlles are far to defensive, Summerhill will have too much up front for them and are seasoned enough to deal with the 14 men behind the ball longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 27/08/2018 09:22:37 2136731 Link 0 |
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ziggy, inclined to agree with you about the Ratoath - Don/Ash quarter final. Experience counts for a hell of a lot and it's only our second senior quarter final. If it's a tight game (as it will almost certainly be), I'd favour our neighbours. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 27/08/2018 09:37:12 2136735 Link 15 |
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SFC prelim match on a Monday night in Castletown, beggars belief to be honest. Both the timing and venue Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 27/08/2018 09:44:05 2136738 Link 15 |
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Ya looking forward to it. Should be Pairc Tailteann?
ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 27/08/2018 09:45:09 2136739 Link 0 |
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I think Tormey is good but don't think he is the best in the county! McGill struggled with Conor O'Byrne last Friday though so it should be a good match up!. I think Don/Ash will take their game with ratoath - Ratoath struggled with an understrength Cillies on Friday night - The older Wallace was wasteful throughout the game and O@Brien doesn't look fully fit yet. Simonstown will definetly be stronger for the knockout rounds but I'd love to see Skyrne take them - they are playing nice football and Campion and Smyth look like two really good prospects. I think Dunboyne will take either Tones or Kells. Dunbvoyne are teh form team and I think teh team to beat! A lot of people are saying Cilles are too defensive - we certainly were against Rtaoath on Friday but we were missing Brennan, Biggy and Banty - 3 of the best forwards in the County - I think we will give the Hill lads are right test! ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 27/08/2018 09:46:17 2136740 Link 0 |
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Accept you were missing serious firepower but have seen you play a few times this year and played the same way, seems to be very much the favored system by management. Its frustrating, you have the players to play good football and be fairly successful along with it
longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 27/08/2018 09:59:01 2136743 Link 0 |
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Don/Ash v Ratoath Agree Tormey is not the best full forward in the county by a long way....3-4 years ago he would have been but he's not fit enough at the minute at all and McGill, as in the league encounter should take him with minimal fuss. Ratoath must have kicked close to 20 wides with Cillies missing very few chances and scored a goal that was a foul on the keeper all day long, so to say they struggled is laughable.... they didn't play well and missing that many against any other team or against Cilles again with Biggy, Conlan and Brennan back will almost certainly cost them. Also saying Ashbourne are more physical and 'Hardy@ is a bit of a stretch, Ratoaths Keeper, 2 McGills, Power, Kelly, 2 McGowans, O Brien all 6ft plus and big men won't be pushed around at all. If this game is played on a big pitch like Navan Ratoath by 5+, if it's a tight pitch then it will be very close and depends on if Ratoath have their shooting boots on or not. Shoot like they did against Cilles and Ashbourne will win by 2-3, straighten their boots up and Ratoath by the same margin. Ratoath Win Summerhill v Cilles An intriguing game here. Based on pedigree and history its Summerhills to lose, a model of consistency and solidness without any spectacular or big name players (Dardis being the possible exception). However, Cilles set up to frustrate teams playing 13 behind the ball and if they can suck the summerhill half back line up the pitch then Conlon will run amuck and with Biggy and Brennan coming from deep an upset could be on the cards. If however they don't lose their shape and slow up the ball in then summerhill will have too much for Cilles. A close game, with no more than 3 between the sides. I'm leaning with Summerhill but wouldn't be putting too much on with em as the Cillies won't lie down or go away at any stage of this game. Summerhill win Skryne v Simonstown A game to soon for Simonstown I think. Lads away for the summer won't be coming back at championship pace and against a Skryne team that are high on confidence and have shown that they can win pretty and ugly this year think will tell in the end. Paddy O Rourke is hitting big scores and looks lethal from the dead ball and in Campion in the middle they have the runner to compliment Rooneys ball winning abilities. If Simonstown had McKeever, Tobin etc fully fit then I would worry for Skryne as their Full back line is their weak spot for me but they won't be I wouldn't imagine and in the end I think Skryne will edge this by 3 points or so. Skryne Win Kells v Tones A game that if played 3-4 years ago would have been the tie of the round. However now it comes as a bit of a damp squib. tones have been hugely underwhelming this year, lost to Cilles, bet well by Ratoath who again missed a number of easy scores and scraped past Rathkenny. O reilly and O Neill missing are huge losses and are clearly evident as they seem to lack creativity in the attacking third. Kells again haven't seemed to get going fully in championship so far, in Mattimoe and Hanlon they have 2 excellent forwards who on their day can terrorise any defence. I think they have to much football for tones and if it turns to a dogfight it will suit the Kells men even more. Kells by about 2-3 Kells win Against Dunboyne unless Kells (assuming I'm right on the pre-lim) get a tight narrow pitch to congest and make it a war I think Dunboyne will have to much all over the pitch in Lenihan, McCarthy, Lowndes, Dunne, Lavin, McEntee and would win comfortably by 5-6. If they do get a tight pitch however and make the game as scrappy I'm still not convinced Dunboyne can drag themselves through it and again wouldn't be surprised at an upset. ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 27/08/2018 12:57:45 2136754 Link 0 |
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I have seen cilles 3 times in this years championship and each time set up ultra defensive even the game they won against tones they were very defensive This is obviously their way and they are entitled to play whatever way they want Against Ratoath last week was like looking at what Pat Spillane would call "puke football" I know you were missing 3 solid forwards but you still have to try and win the game For me Summerhill will win this encounter Wolfetones to beat Kells And Dunboyne to beat tones I think with the Americans back for Simonstown they will get over Skyrne And finally Ratoath will have it all to do against Ashbourne and this one is 50/50 for me Too close to call either way head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 27/08/2018 13:23:42 2136766 Link 0 |
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Don/Ash v Ratoath Agree Tormey is not the best full forward in the county by a long way....3-4 years ago he would have been but he's not fit enough at the minute at all and McGill, as in the league encounter should take him with minimal fuss. Ratoath must have kicked close to 20 wides with Cillies missing very few chances and scored a goal that was a foul on the keeper all day long, so to say they struggled is laughable.... they didn't play well and missing that many against any other team or against Cilles again with Biggy, Conlan and Brennan back will almost certainly cost them. Also saying Ashbourne are more physical and 'Hardy@ is a bit of a stretch, Ratoaths Keeper, 2 McGills, Power, Kelly, 2 McGowans, O Brien all 6ft plus and big men won't be pushed around at all. If this game is played on a big pitch like Navan Ratoath by 5+, if it's a tight pitch then it will be very close and depends on if Ratoath have their shooting boots on or not. Shoot like they did against Cilles and Ashbourne will win by 2-3, straighten their boots up and Ratoath by the same margin. Ratoath Win Summerhill v Cilles An intriguing game here. Based on pedigree and history its Summerhills to lose, a model of consistency and solidness without any spectacular or big name players (Dardis being the possible exception). However, Cilles set up to frustrate teams playing 13 behind the ball and if they can suck the summerhill half back line up the pitch then Conlon will run amuck and with Biggy and Brennan coming from deep an upset could be on the cards. If however they don't lose their shape and slow up the ball in then summerhill will have too much for Cilles. A close game, with no more than 3 between the sides. I'm leaning with Summerhill but wouldn't be putting too much on with em as the Cillies won't lie down or go away at any stage of this game. Summerhill win Skryne v Simonstown A game to soon for Simonstown I think. Lads away for the summer won't be coming back at championship pace and against a Skryne team that are high on confidence and have shown that they can win pretty and ugly this year think will tell in the end. Paddy O Rourke is hitting big scores and looks lethal from the dead ball and in Campion in the middle they have the runner to compliment Rooneys ball winning abilities. If Simonstown had McKeever, Tobin etc fully fit then I would worry for Skryne as their Full back line is their weak spot for me but they won't be I wouldn't imagine and in the end I think Skryne will edge this by 3 points or so. Skryne Win Kells v Tones A game that if played 3-4 years ago would have been the tie of the round. However now it comes as a bit of a damp squib. tones have been hugely underwhelming this year, lost to Cilles, bet well by Ratoath who again missed a number of easy scores and scraped past Rathkenny. O reilly and O Neill missing are huge losses and are clearly evident as they seem to lack creativity in the attacking third. Kells again haven't seemed to get going fully in championship so far, in Mattimoe and Hanlon they have 2 excellent forwards who on their day can terrorise any defence. I think they have to much football for tones and if it turns to a dogfight it will suit the Kells men even more. Kells by about 2-3 Kells win Against Dunboyne unless Kells (assuming I'm right on the pre-lim) get a tight narrow pitch to congest and make it a war I think Dunboyne will have to much all over the pitch in Lenihan, McCarthy, Lowndes, Dunne, Lavin, McEntee and would win comfortably by 5-6. If they do get a tight pitch however and make the game as scrappy I'm still not convinced Dunboyne can drag themselves through it and again wouldn't be surprised at an upset. ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 27/08/2018 13:28:39 2136769 Link 0 |
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Yeah - I think that is because management saw qualifying for quarters as the main aim and that it would be a good outcome! Now having seen the standard of the others, and the fact that it is knockout I think we will be more aggressive.
ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 27/08/2018 14:02:28 2136778 Link 0 |
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Who is in the relegation playoff and when is that played? loyaltothecause (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 27/08/2018 16:19:32 2136839 Link 0 |
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The preliminary quarter final between tones and kells should not be in Castletown, with all due respect to castletown these teams are fighting for their championship lives and deserve the best ground available and that is certainly not Castletown head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 27/08/2018 19:05:33 2136888 Link 0 |
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Couldn't agree more. This going on year in year out. The likes of castletown and Duleek getting big senior championship games when the faculties are clearly not good enough. It's almost a running joke at this stage every time the championship fixtures are released to see what below standard ground gets a big championship game
Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 27/08/2018 21:04:17 2136923 Link 2 |
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Curraha, Blackhall & Pats.
BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 27/08/2018 21:14:44 2136924 Link 0 |
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Couple of things on this. Unfortunately Castletown don't have any cronies. They have been given the game on merit, the place with the infrastructure and ability to stage the game. They have invested heavily in the ground in the past few years, like many other clubs. With PT not viable for evening games Castletown is the only pitch that has a seated stand, modern floodlights, decent dressingrooms and good pitch, unless you wanted to bring the teams to Asbbourne. They've shown they can cope with big crowds too. Obviously the game should be in PT but with the lights lying on the ground that won't be possible. The location might be a little rural for some but that's something you'll have to get over yourself, come down and enjoy what will surely be a mighty North Meath derby. GoalsWinGames (Meath) - Posts: 303 - 28/08/2018 08:04:17 2136957 Link 0 |
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What is wrong with Castletown as a matter of interest, this time of year the surface is good, the dressing rooms are good, there is a stand and plenty of room to park round the pitch? Totally agree regarding duleek, the dressing rooms are a disgrace to be having all the games they have there.
longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 28/08/2018 08:43:48 2136963 Link 0 |
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I would not be knocking the Cilles style of play. There only up to Senior, seemed to struggle with so many lads in U20's and with Senior panel and so there entitled to setup as they please. There was loads of talk about Wolfe Tones at start of the year and they took them out. They made Ratoath look very ordinary last day and them full out and the Cilles gifted them a goal as Ratoath struggled to break them down. That was against a backdrop of Cilles missing 4 of their best forwards, 3 of which are top county players. So Summerhill are top side but this is now knockout football and you be foolish to think Cilles are not going to use the artillery they have up front to good effect, defensive system or however they setup. It's Summerhill to lose but this I feel could be real top game
Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 28/08/2018 10:37:29 2137002 Link 0 |
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Castletown to their credit always have ample stewarding in place and a printed teamsheet. The negative is the pitch and more so than this, the game should not be played on a Monday evening only 2 days after a hurling Quarter final. What is wrong with playing pre lim quarter on same weekend as other 3 quarter finals ? Was done last year
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 28/08/2018 10:37:29 2137003 Link 15 |
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Ok maybe a bit harsh because no where near as bad as Duleek. Castletowns dressing rooms are good and big to be fair but the pitch not good enough. Should be in the best pitch available such as simonstown or somewhere like that.
Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 28/08/2018 11:18:03 2137028 Link 1 |
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What's wrong with Castletown is the pitch is not the best around to play a senior championship quarter final on and that is the main problem The fact they have a stand means nothing (if you could call it a stand) The pitch is not senior standard head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 28/08/2018 11:27:40 2137039 Link 0 |