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I get a sneaky feeling O Rourke wont be in goals this year. If he stuck to the basics it is his spot but i just get the feeling he is a lose cannon

pretender (Meath) - Posts: 358 - 10/01/2017 11:15:33    1944502

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Replying To Crinigan:  "You having a laugh lad. Tobin is a fantastic footballer. Our best all-round player in my opinion."
It's obvious you haven't got an eye for a good defender. Tobin's reaction speed to opposition forwards turn of pace is very sluggish in my opinion and he's not tight enough for the 50/50 balls. This is because hes not very good at anticipating his man's run which means he loses a few yards in the chase for the 50/50 ball. He's a good athlete and a good all round player but he's more accustomed to playing half back or half forward.

It takes a certain player to play in the full back line. Donal Keoghan is an ideal corner back. He anticipates his man's runs well, he's excellent at staying tight and getting his hand in to dispossess. But in the full back line which is your last line of defense you need your defenders to be very quick over the first few yards, quick reaction speed and good anticipation. I'd be very surprised if McEntee settled for Tobin in the full back line.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 790 - 10/01/2017 11:36:07    1944504

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Well that makes Andy McEntee and myself then who don't have an eye for a good defender.

I think Andy needs you on board as defence coach.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 10/01/2017 13:19:54    1944539

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Replying To Bear10:  "I hope he does well in goals but got a sneaky suspicion he could be thrown into full forward line later in the year when experience is needed"
I also have that feeling, just cant get away from it, first and foremost he is a goal poacher, not a speed man, play maker (unless laying off) and if we a goal down with 10 mins to go in Leinster final against perhaps a dubs backline that are suspect under high ball, I can see him been thrown on told stay near square and biggy or whoever launch in a few high ones.
It makes sense. I could be completely wrong but that's what id do.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/01/2017 14:04:21    1944552

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Think it is a bit early in the season for posters to be praising or slating certain players. We all have opinions but its better to keep these to yourself until at least the start of the league. Its unfair on the players particularly posters that say a player is not good enough. Give everyone a chance and perhaps Andy will find a few gems out there that we didn't know we had.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 10/01/2017 14:13:11    1944557

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I also have that feeling, just cant get away from it, first and foremost he is a goal poacher, not a speed man, play maker (unless laying off) and if we a goal down with 10 mins to go in Leinster final against perhaps a dubs backline that are suspect under high ball, I can see him been thrown on told stay near square and biggy or whoever launch in a few high ones.
It makes sense. I could be completely wrong but that's what id do."
Thats why he should have been kept on by the previous regime...against a packed defence in the closing stages of a tight game, the likes of a Joe Sheridan in FF line could be the winning of a game.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 10/01/2017 14:13:20    1944558

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Replying To Poormouth:  "Think it is a bit early in the season for posters to be praising or slating certain players. We all have opinions but its better to keep these to yourself until at least the start of the league. Its unfair on the players particularly posters that say a player is not good enough. Give everyone a chance and perhaps Andy will find a few gems out there that we didn't know we had."
Good post, and to the point. Changing the topic; I have seen any posts from NorthMeathman in a long time , I always enjoyed reading his contributions. I just hope he is well and if he is reading this, have a happy New Year.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/01/2017 14:39:51    1944565

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Thats why he should have been kept on by the previous regime...against a packed defence in the closing stages of a tight game, the likes of a Joe Sheridan in FF line could be the winning of a game."
Would agree totally

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/01/2017 16:44:01    1944599

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Meath (O'Byrne Cup v DIT) -
Robbie Burlingham (Simonstown Gaels)
Alan Douglas (Trim),
David McQuillan (St Patrick's),
Thomas McGovern (Donaghmore/Ashbourne),
Declan Smyth (Dunsany),
Willie Carry (Drumbaragh),
Alan Forde (Navan O'Mahonys);
Brian Power (Ratoath),
James Toher (Trim);
Stuart Lowndes (Dunboyne),
Bobby O'Brien (Ratoath),
Ruairí Ó Coileáin (Navan O'Mahonys);
Dan Queeney (Na Fianna),
Sean Tobin (Simonstown),
Donal Lenihan (Dunboyne).

Subs - Joe Sheridan (Seneschalstown),
Patrick Brady (Blackhall Gaels),
David Toner (Curraha),
Kieran Lynch (St Patrick's),
Adam Flanagan (Clonard),
Padraic Harnan (Moynalvey),
Ben Brennan (St Colmcille's),
David Larkin (Summerhill).

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1291 - 10/01/2017 17:16:02    1944613

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Is Andrew Tormey still on the Meath panel? He didn't feature in any friendlies before xmas and isn't listed on the starting 15 or bench for tomorrows game with DIT?.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 1021 - 10/01/2017 17:19:22    1944616

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not too sure about Tormey. A bit of time out would help to get the focus/hunger back. Same could be said about Newman as last years attitude wont cut it by the looks of things. Two fantastic lads that would be certs for the team if everyting was 100%

pretender (Meath) - Posts: 358 - 10/01/2017 17:39:52    1944624

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Is Andrew Tormey still on the Meath panel? He didn't feature in any friendlies before xmas and isn't listed on the starting 15 or bench for tomorrows game with DIT?."
Curious about that one myself. Also, what's the story with Newman? I know Wallace is with UCD and McGill is with DIT but apart from that I don't know of anyone else with colleges. Seems big Joe is in as third choice keeper until Paddy returns. I'd imagine there'll be a big cull of players in the next week or two.

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 526 - 10/01/2017 17:40:41    1944626

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Is Andrew Tormey still on the Meath panel? He didn't feature in any friendlies before xmas and isn't listed on the starting 15 or bench for tomorrows game with DIT?."
Good question, I also don't remember seeing Newman on any of the teams in the challenges or against Wicklow.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 10/01/2017 17:40:43    1944627

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McEntee is certainly giving plenty of lads a chance, naming a completely different team. Hopefully a few of them can impress and become good new additions to the squad, it's a great opportunity and they should treat it as such.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/01/2017 18:51:30    1944657

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Thats why he should have been kept on by the previous regime...against a packed defence in the closing stages of a tight game, the likes of a Joe Sheridan in FF line could be the winning of a game."
I would disagree. Donaghy is the master of the high ball on the edge of the square and against Dublin he has done nothing in the last couple of years. Joe is nowhere near the full forward Donaghy is, certainly at this time of year. Long hoofed balls on top of a team sitting back when they are ahead is pure desperation and I don't think I've ever seen it worked against a packed defence. Give Joe his chance in goal and if he takes it fair play. If not 15 or so lads need to be dropped and Joe as an outfielder should be one

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1584 - 10/01/2017 18:51:34    1944658

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Some players are injured at the moment.Michael Newman was in the stands on Sunday with a bunch of other Meath players on the panel.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/01/2017 19:07:28    1944661

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Some players are injured at the moment.Michael Newman was in the stands on Sunday with a bunch of other Meath players on the panel."
did you get to see any of the other lads ?, wondering who is injured

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1584 - 10/01/2017 19:18:26    1944663

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Having seen Joe play a lot with Seneschalstown he has been very good in midfield but his time playing outfield with Meath is over.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 10/01/2017 19:51:59    1944673

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LeitrimRoyal - you are right. Some have forgotten July 2013 vs. Tyrone at CP.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 10/01/2017 20:09:07    1944687

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "did you get to see any of the other lads ?, wondering who is injured"
I think Cathal Finn,James McEntee and Paddy O'Rourke are injured.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/01/2017 20:28:12    1944699

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