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Replying To Viking66:  "Maybe read up who started the 1967 war? The situation in Israel and Palestine is way more complicated than Russia and Ukraine. It dates back to the start of Islam, maybe even before it. And Ukraine never tried to wipe out all the Russians living in Ukraine.
At the same time that doesn't excuse the human suffering there currently is in Gaza, or the Jewish extremists grabbing land in the West Bank."
The 1967 war was started by Israel in what they called a preemptive strike similar to their attack on Iran last year regarding nuclear weapons . Israel makes up the law as they go along.

An Arab attack on Israel was not imminent they were building their armies but had no immediate attack plans on Israel. Israel in essence should never have been created in the first place.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1724 - 22/01/2026 12:20:08    2652489

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I see President Trump is setting up a Board of Peace now. how this man wasn't given the Noble Peace Prize I'll never know.
He only wants Greenland to act as a deterrent to any aggressor. The USA has protected us all for decades they helped defeat Nazi Germany and don't forget the Red Army also battered the Germans into submission from the eastern side.
Easy to forget now listening to the spiel from the likes of Macron etc,
what was France's record in the war? I wouldn't like to be depending on the likes of them for defence anyway.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3668 - 22/01/2026 12:36:32    2652492

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I see President Trump is setting up a Board of Peace now. how this man wasn't given the Noble Peace Prize I'll never know.
He only wants Greenland to act as a deterrent to any aggressor. The USA has protected us all for decades they helped defeat Nazi Germany and don't forget the Red Army also battered the Germans into submission from the eastern side.
Easy to forget now listening to the spiel from the likes of Macron etc,
what was France's record in the war? I wouldn't like to be depending on the likes of them for defence anyway."
This Board of Peace doesn't come cheap. To be a permanent member the fee is $1 bn. If not you get a 3 yr term.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2036 - 22/01/2026 14:37:37    2652510

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "The point is now that dealing with the United States who are complicit in genocide and imperialism in an anathema to Irish history given the history of British misrule and the famine. Western countries apply the international rules based order to enemies but not allies like Israel you are correct."
Completely agree. It's an awkward position for Irish folks to be in but unfortunately it is what it is.

Not that it's likely to happen any time soon, but if we were to pivot completely away from the US and the EU, we'd be like Albania under Hoxoa, or Europe's North Korea. Ok, maybe not quite as bad as that. But our lives would be fundamentally different. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of Irish people are living relatively comfortable lives and would not welcome such an uprooting.

It's one thing agitating and demonstarting on social media, or joining the odd protest march here and there. Quite another to fully put your money where your mouth is.

Not a dig at you by the way - you come across as a fairly genuine socialist.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10206 - 22/01/2026 14:54:32    2652514

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I see President Trump is setting up a Board of Peace now. how this man wasn't given the Noble Peace Prize I'll never know.
He only wants Greenland to act as a deterrent to any aggressor. The USA has protected us all for decades they helped defeat Nazi Germany and don't forget the Red Army also battered the Germans into submission from the eastern side.
Easy to forget now listening to the spiel from the likes of Macron etc,
what was France's record in the war? I wouldn't like to be depending on the likes of them for defence anyway."
How's your TACO today Tirchonaill1? I hope you were able to digest it all, it can be hard to take in all at once.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1688 - 22/01/2026 14:59:37    2652515

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "Of course I don't chat to Greenlanders, but I have read here or there that not all are happy at being ruled by distant Denmark. What percent? No idea hence hoping for a fair election where they decide and not others."
They had a poll in Greenland to ask the people. 85% of people don't want to be part of the U.S. 9 % undecided. But you read a post on here somewhere saying they are not happy. Amazing.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8726 - 22/01/2026 15:42:04    2652533

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Completely agree. It's an awkward position for Irish folks to be in but unfortunately it is what it is.

Not that it's likely to happen any time soon, but if we were to pivot completely away from the US and the EU, we'd be like Albania under Hoxoa, or Europe's North Korea. Ok, maybe not quite as bad as that. But our lives would be fundamentally different. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of Irish people are living relatively comfortable lives and would not welcome such an uprooting.

It's one thing agitating and demonstarting on social media, or joining the odd protest march here and there. Quite another to fully put your money where your mouth is.

Not a dig at you by the way - you come across as a fairly genuine socialist."
Yes I would definitely be a Socialist because I think the greed and wealth disparities under capitalism are too vast . Socialism is very good system and can work well China is booming but I accept it failed in the USSR probably it was not implemented well there as it collapsed. The concept of socialism is just. Capitalism in China with a population of over one billion would be a bad fit given the wealth disparities it creates if the elite had all the money there could be widespread poverty.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1724 - 22/01/2026 15:53:54    2652537

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